The best thing about this clip is the way the cop acts. He's pretty damn calm about everything and he's funny about it as well

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That's completely besides the point, the police officer did something that was absolutely unnecessary and out of line. Some police officers are not fit to wear that badge, just look at some of the stuff that happened in New Orleans.newbified wrote:So you think that drivers with no front windshield, no seatbelt on, broken tail-light and going 51 miles per hour in a 35 zone, with a suspended liscence, should be allowed to talk to a police officer like she was?
You tell me not to take it so personally, but you personally attack me twice in this thread? The first time without any provocation at all, and the second as an edit to call me a dumbass, in the same post you tell me not to take it so personally?Femto wrote:Listen man, I think it's in real bad taste to laugh about something like that, don't take it so personally.
She was swearing, and being completely uncooperative to just about anything the police officer asked her to do. And as I have said before in this topic, but I will reitterate once again, in the video the police officer even says that she "took a swing" at the other officer on the scene. Certainly seems to me, that he was justified if that is indeed the case.Femto wrote:What would I have done? I don't know, I'm not a cop, but, as I said, using a tazer on a woman that was putting no real struggle whatsoever was completely unncessary. After all, she wasn't screaming or yelling and she wasn't punching anyone, at best she was just being uncooperative.
I would say since she tried to hit a police officer, that she would be considered one of the above "dangerous" or more likely "combative" types of people that they talk about in the above paragraph. So I guess tasers actually are for people who are uncooperative and speeding if they try to get a punch in at a police officer.Taser wrote:TASER brand devices are among the safer use-of-force options available today. TASER systems use proprietary technology to immediately incapacitate dangerous, combative or high-risk individuals who pose a risk to law enforcement officers, innocent citizens or themselves.
I think it's funny because it's a product of her poor choices up to this point that the situation unfolded as it did. It was her choice to speed, to have a broken windshield, have no seat belt, and drive under a suspended liscence. Then she decided to be uncooperative and combative, and try to attack a police officer while the other was giving her ample warning that if she didn't cooperate by getting out of the car he was going to get her out of the car himself. I'm sorry if I don't feel remorse for a woman who's poor judgement ended up getting herself hurt.Femto wrote:You may or may not agree with the officer's choice, but laughing about something like this is completely insensitive and childish.
I'd say a little bit of both. It really depends on the officer you encounter. My friend took a Criminal Justice class and told me about one of the guys he took a ride-along with. He was dealing with some guy (I forget what the man was doing) and the guy went for his gun. Now, once you go for an officer's gun, your life is forfeit. The cop had every right to kill him then and there and no court of law would have convicted him of any crime. This officer however chose to take out his Asp (An extendable club with a hard metal tip from my understanding) and proceeded to break the man's collar bone and subdue him.Femto wrote:Because they uphold the law or because we should be afraid of them?Albator wrote:Bottom line: you don't mess up with police officers.
Because they represent the law. If the cop if wrong well you'll have other recourts later, but at the moment they arrest you, you comply and shut up. And because in the US cops are a little more....edgy, compare to France at least, where I've seen numerous people talking crap to cops and not get tazered in the process. But then that's another debate.Femto wrote:Because they uphold the law or because we should be afraid of them?Albator wrote:Bottom line: you don't mess up with police officers.
It's a big difference and the reason why I disagree with nearly everyone that has posted here on the tasing subject.
Driving While License Suspended or Revoked- s. 322.34, F.S.
Any person whose driver license/privilege is suspended for Driving with an Unlawful Alcohol Level, or revoked for DUI, DUI Manslaughter or Vehicular Homicide, or for any other offense ordered by the court and who causes death or serious bodily injury to another person by operating a motor vehicle in a careless or negligent manner is guilty of a 3rd degree felony, punishable by both imprisonment of not more than 5 years, a fine not to exceed $5,000, or both.
actually they'll suspend for an unpaid ticket too... happened to me back in 2001psi29a wrote:I didn't laugh, and I saw several problems.
1) She opened her door. That makes any law-enforcement official nervious and is discouraged in Drivers Education.
2) She MUST hand the officer her license and registration when asked, you can't get around this. Doing so will land you in jail.
3) She had a suspended license, in Florida (which this takes place):Driving While License Suspended or Revoked- s. 322.34, F.S.
Any person whose driver license/privilege is suspended for Driving with an Unlawful Alcohol Level, or revoked for DUI, DUI Manslaughter or Vehicular Homicide, or for any other offense ordered by the court and who causes death or serious bodily injury to another person by operating a motor vehicle in a careless or negligent manner is guilty of a 3rd degree felony, punishable by both imprisonment of not more than 5 years, a fine not to exceed $5,000, or both.
In florida, you do not get a suspended license unless you are cought DUI.
4) Broken tail light is a primary moving violation, which means they can pull you over for that alone, and issue you secondary violations like seat belts.
Here is a great peace about stun-guns.
Bottom line, stun-guns is are a quick and easy compliance tool. It minimizes casualties on both sides, does reduce fatalities, and in the long run less painfull than a bullet whole or botton hit.
The problem is the 'quick' part, some officers are quick to use it, for better or worse. This video reminds me of some 'COMPLY COMPLY' movie (like Equalibrium), and I wish it didn't have to end that way. However, the 'victim'/'suspect' had many things going against her.
You take responsiblity for your actions, officer and civilian alike. The officer is an enforcer of law, her chance to redress the enforcement is done in the court system. She should not have acted the way she did.