Prediction of Gut's New Allies

[Eldo]

Serpico could definitely beat an apostle. But it will definitely be a struggling fight, even Guts couldn't kill an apostle with one hit without the Berserk Armour. Serpico is like the typical 'speed demon' in an RPG, with high agility, skills, and more attacks per turn. His skills compensates for his strength in battle, and also that he fights his battles strategically.

[Balor645]

Who do you think would fare better Azan or Seripico? I put my bets on Azan

[Libaax]

Serpico would be killed easily if he fought an aposlte i mean they almost kill Guts everytime he fights them and Serpico is not near as good Guts.

[Arresty]

Who do you think would fare better Azan or Seripico? I put my bets on Azan

Serpico by a long shot. Mainly cause he is fast and smart. He has been the only one to be able to hold his own against Guts when Guts is in top shape. Azan was fighting Guts when he was injured and poisoned, and I would still say Serpico was doing much better than Azan was then. Azan is good, but not good enough.

Serpico would be killed easily if he fought an apostle i mean they almost kill Guts every time he fights them and Serpico is not near as good Guts.

I disagree. I mean Serpico would die if he took a beating like Guts takes. I mean he is smaller and more fragile, but he won't take that beating. Guts and he use different tactics. Guts takes hits. Guts goes in with killing his enemy the only plan, and as the fight progresses he thinks of a way to kill the enemy. Serpico won't go into a fight unprepared, so he would figure out a plan first. Where Guts gets the shit kicked out of him while thinking of a plan, Serpico already has one.

Now against a powerful Apostle Serpico is in trouble, but against the snake guy from the beginning, or maybe even the count Serpico could win as long as he knew what he was fighting first. Serpico is fast, strategic, and skilled. With those three traits he is a very good warrior. Also the cloak and sword help a lot.

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hmm serpico plans his fight? yeah if he can prepare the circumstances to be favorable he is a astonishing opponent. I am pretty sure he wouldn't attack guts where guts can use his power. he sure can't take as much beating as guts and i bet his stamina is less. he is more of a fighter, where guts is a pure warrior. on a one on one he would do quite good I think. But if something goes wrong during a battle and if there are more enemies I wouldn't believe he can "come back" as guts does. he lacks some experience there. it's as if guts "feels" his enemies around him, even their weapons. this is I think where Serpicos limits are since he is not living "between" the realms. serpicos speed however could cause guts to drop one or two drops of sweat.

Azan is someone who can hold ground under pretty bad cirsumstances. but I think he is inferior to serpico in attack. I couldn't say who ist better. azan fought guts when guts could hardly stand, but in a place where guts can move freely. but I believe that against guts, where you can't "hold your ground" his failure is sure. he is more a powerfighter and it's quite impossible to overpower guts.

[Dark_Zilo]

maybe i'm just stating the obvious but i think one of the most inportant allies of Guts will be Rickert
he's the only one to know what happened in the eclipse and his will to fight is way up.

[Arresty]

hmm serpico plans his fight? yeah if he can prepare the circumstances to be favorable he is a astonishing opponent. I am pretty sure he wouldn't attack guts where guts can use his power. he sure can't take as much beating as guts and i bet his stamina is less. he is more of a fighter, where guts is a pure warrior. on a one on one he would do quite good I think. But if something goes wrong during a battle and if there are more enemies I wouldn't believe he can "come back" as guts does. he lacks some experience there. it's as if guts "feels" his enemies around him, even their weapons. this is I think where Serpico's limits are since he is not living "between" the realms. Serpico's speed however could cause guts to drop one or two drops of sweat.

I don't think Guts living between the realms helps him notice other opponents unless of course they are evil, but even then I think he only notices them, not what they are or where they are. He just knows that something is coming. Also if he is already in battle with enough of them, unless something like an Apostle or a God Hand member comes by, it would not change the amount of pain he is currently feeling.

You are right about the experience part though. That is why Guts is better at adapting to the situation. Serpico has not fought nearly nearly enough true battles to have Guts experience in battle. Serpico really had only fought one on one duals, which are very limiting in the realm of experience. You don't learn how to account for unexpected things in those battles. I think he would do well just off of his wits alone, but Guts is beyond that. He uses instinct mostly. Guts can tell whats going on on the battlefield, anywhere from anywhere. He knows how to react and everything, but Guts is also more experienced then older soldiers. He has fought many tough battles, and has been outnumbered several times. Serpico has probably learned a decent amount, though, in just his short time with Guts. I think he learned a lot fighting the Kelpie(sp?). Azan would be better in unknown territory, since he is a much more battle experienced fighter. Though I still stay with Serpico kicking his ass in a dual.

Azan is someone who can hold ground under pretty bad circumstances. but I think he is inferior to Serpico in attack. I couldn't say who is better. Azan fought guts when guts could hardly stand, but in a place where guts can move freely. but I believe that against guts, where you can't "hold your ground" his failure is sure. he is more a power fighter and it's quite impossible to overpower guts.

Good point. Guts and Azan are both similar fighters. They both use powerful attacks and are on the offensive. But if two people fight head to head with that style, the more powerful will always win, and Guts is way more powerful than Azan. There is not way anyone(human) can overpower Guts in battle. The only way to beat Guts is to use some techniques to nullify that. I think that is why Serpico does so well. Serpico knows how to eliminate Guts power, and how to take advantage of his abilities.

What makes Guts so powerful though, is that Guts isn't just a power fighter. Guts is like super Juduea. He is now a jack of all trades, but he is pretty much a master of all the techniques. He can be just a power fighter, he normally is. It works better fighting weaker opponents, and large numbers of them, but he is also skilled with knives, crossbow, and cannon . He is also super fast. He can be a speed fighter as well. That is why he is so threatening to the Apostles, is because he can modify his style to maximize effectiveness against them.


Rickert will be a useful person, but I am not sure if Guts wants him to fight with him. I think Guts wants him to stay and start a new life, free of blood. He will still be a powerful ally even if he just stays a blacksmith, because he is the only man alive who could work on the Dragon Slayer, and his other assortment of custom weapons. Also each time he has been there, he gets something new. I am looking forward to his visit again, see what he gets this time.

[Libaax]

Who do you think would fare better Azan or Seripico? I put my bets on Azan

Serpico by a long shot. Mainly cause he is fast and smart. He has been the only one to be able to hold his own against Guts when Guts is in top shape. Azan was fighting Guts when he was injured and poisoned, and I would still say Serpico was doing much better than Azan was then. Azan is good, but not good enough.

Serpico would be killed easily if he fought an apostle i mean they almost kill Guts every time he fights them and Serpico is not near as good Guts.

I disagree. I mean Serpico would die if he took a beating like Guts takes. I mean he is smaller and more fragile, but he won't take that beating. Guts and he use different tactics. Guts takes hits. Guts goes in with killing his enemy the only plan, and as the fight progresses he thinks of a way to kill the enemy. Serpico won't go into a fight unprepared, so he would figure out a plan first. Where Guts gets the shit kicked out of him while thinking of a plan, Serpico already has one.

Now against a powerful Apostle Serpico is in trouble, but against the snake guy from the beginning, or maybe even the count Serpico could win as long as he knew what he was fighting first. Serpico is fast, strategic, and skilled. With those three traits he is a very good warrior. Also the cloak and sword help a lot.

I dont think Guts fights without having a plan its just that he knows he cant win if he dont take a beating cause they dont die esiely.

I just dont see Serpico winning against a powerful apostle which most are. I mean he doesnt have a weapon that works against them. Even if he could hurt an apostle its impossible to fight them without getting hurt badly since they are so much stronger.

[panic]

I just don't see Serpico winning against a powerful apostle which most are. I mean he doesn't have a weapon that works against them. Even if he could hurt an apostle its impossible to fight them without getting hurt badly since they are so much stronger.

That's true, normal swords break easly on apostles, even the ones that Godo made before Guts had Dragon Slayer. I also doubt that Serpico can take care of a strong monster like Zodd or similar to him, Serpico has his skill, speed but without strength you cant really hurt an apostle much. I don't mean that he has no strength, but for an apostle, as we all know lot of power is needed. Serpico is good for all those 2nd-plan apostles which Guts take care with one swing. I think that he can take good care of them so they wont bother Guts.

[dos.azn]

hes yet to gain any battle experience with the wind elemental. thru more battles, he'll learn and eventually be able to fight with the big dogs

[Ghostviper04]

Oh, but Serpico gets some nice range and air. That's gotta account for something in his fights, he could probably take out an Apostle by standing out of reach and "throwing" air which seems to be quite powerful. Also, he's quick. Agile and ranged, all he needs to display is stamina then he can at least whittle down the big boyz.

[Arresty]

hes yet to gain any battle experience with the wind elemental. thru more battles, he'll learn and eventually be able to fight with the big dogs

I agree. The wind elemental sword could cut an apostle, I am assuming, since it is in the spirit realm as well. Serpico I think could manage to not get hit with the cloak as well. He is very agile naturally, so with that he is a very hard target to hit. Also I always said weaker apostles. He could not take on Grunbeld or Zodd, or any of the high ranked new band of the hawk ones. He could do well against weaker ones though. With time, and practice with the elemental sword and clack, I think he will eventually be able to hold his own against more powerful ones, but still not the big boys. Guts will probably be the only human that could ever handle them. He is a monster killing monster.

I dont think Guts fights without having a plan its just that he knows he cant win if he dont take a beating cause they dont die esiely.

Back at the beginning of the story Guts fought without a plan, for the most part. He would go into battle with his sword swinging until he found a weakness. He didn't plan ahead, he just jumped into it. Not saying he can't do strategy. He is quick witted in battle. He would basically take a beating til he saw an opening, and then take it. He was smart about it though. And when I say take a beating, I mean sometimes he would intentionally take a beating, that is part of the reason he gets beat up so badly. Serpico would use a different strategy that would not involve taking hits. I don't think he would take a beating against the apostles like Guts did. I believe they would hit him, but I think he would always be parrying and dodging, to minimize the damage done.

[Buzkashi]

I think his wind power is gay. I think ishorido is gay too. Sheirke can stay, so can casca and farnese. But i hope Serpico dies fighting some apostle....

No seriously, serpico is really strong. I mean Gutts did say that he wished he could fight him again. And he doesnt really say that to anyone. He reminds me of Griffith, sept with gay wind powers

[Arresty]

I think his wind power is gay. I think ishorido is gay too. Sheirke can stay, so can casca and farnese. But i hope Serpico dies fighting some apostle....

No seriously, serpico is really strong. I mean Gutts did say that he wished he could fight him again. And he doesnt really say that to anyone. He reminds me of Griffith, sept with gay wind powers

I agree with you to some extent. His powers are gay, but they do make him stronger. Gives him more of a fighting chance. Also Isidro's dagger is even more gay, and is completely useless. As far was wanting the characters to die, nah, not for me. I like them. Isidro and puck make good comic relief, though the story now is much lighter, so not much of a need anymore. I like Serpico though. I like his addition to the story, and I like his character. I think he will be very important later on. Isidro, I also feel like will be very important later on, though he is nothing but comic relief now.

[Buzkashi]

Hey i said i didnt like ishorido, but i never said anything bout Puck. Puck actually brings some comic relief from time to time, and is capable of being serious. However Ishorido is completely useless to Gutts, and the story line so far.

[Arresty]

I know you didn't say anything about puck. I was just saying him in combo with puck is comic releif. Rereading it, though, it does make it seem like I said you didn't like puck. But I was just meaning the team is comic releif, you don't see Isidro alone much.

[Libaax]

hes yet to gain any battle experience with the wind elemental. thru more battles, he'll learn and eventually be able to fight with the big dogs

I agree. The wind elemental sword could cut an apostle, I am assuming, since it is in the spirit realm as well. Serpico I think could manage to not get hit with the cloak as well. He is very agile naturally, so with that he is a very hard target to hit. Also I always said weaker apostles. He could not take on Grunbeld or Zodd, or any of the high ranked new band of the hawk ones. He could do well against weaker ones though. With time, and practice with the elemental sword and clack, I think he will eventually be able to hold his own against more powerful ones, but still not the big boys. Guts will probably be the only human that could ever handle them. He is a monster killing monster.

I dont think Guts fights without having a plan its just that he knows he cant win if he dont take a beating cause they dont die esiely.

Back at the beginning of the story Guts fought without a plan, for the most part. He would go into battle with his sword swinging until he found a weakness. He didn't plan ahead, he just jumped into it. Not saying he can't do strategy. He is quick witted in battle. He would basically take a beating til he saw an opening, and then take it. He was smart about it though. And when I say take a beating, I mean sometimes he would intentionally take a beating, that is part of the reason he gets beat up so badly. Serpico would use a different strategy that would not involve taking hits. I don't think he would take a beating against the apostles like Guts did. I believe they would hit him, but I think he would always be parrying and dodging, to minimize the damage done.

I guess we will see soon if he fights an apostle. He might hurt an apostle but its impossible to avoid damage against them cause they are much stronger,i mean one hit can kill a human. Also Serpico hasnt show anything to let us believe he can even fight an apostle.


Yeah Guts dont care about what happens to his body as long as he kill an apostle,also Guts wasnt as strong then as he is now now he would kill the apostle that hurt him badly before in a sec.

[Arresty]

Yeah Guts dont care about what happens to his body as long as he kill an apostle,also Guts wasnt as strong then as he is now now he would kill the apostle that hurt him badly before in a sec.

Those are the ones I am saying Serpico has a chance with. As long as Serpico knows what he is going up against at the beginning.

[Libaax]

Yeah i saw you meant the week ones,them Serpic has a chance against it. I think he would freak out if he saw Zodd in his demon form;)

[Gatzz]

Yeah, an army would be in danger around him.
Remember what Serpico said: "The Berserker killed foe AND ally"
We dont know if he can control his armor, and it is uncertain if Shierke can return his sanity all the time...

[Arresty]

Yeah i saw you meant the week ones,them Serpic has a chance against it. I think he would freak out if he saw Zodd in his demon form;)

I doubt he would freak out, but he would definitely get his ass handed to him. He could not stand a chance at all against Zodd in demon form. He couldn't stand a chance with him in human form, unless he does something like what he did to Guts, but Zodd would probably be able to make space easier then Guts can.

We dont know if he can control his armor, and it is uncertain if Shierke can return his sanity all the time...

That's why we need that kid back. That kid was able to pull him out with ease, when Schierke has trouble with it.

[dos.azn]

he/she will prolly come back, not like miura to waste characters like that

[Balor645]

Yeah, an army would be in danger around him.
Remember what Serpico said: "The Berserker killed foe AND ally"
We dont know if he can control his armor, and it is uncertain if Shierke can return his sanity all the time...

At some point one of Gut's teamates will be killed by that, you can count my words there. Muira has made too big of a deal about that for it to go by without any problems.

doubt he would freak out, but he would definitely get his ass handed to him. He could not stand a chance at all against Zodd in demon form. He couldn't stand a chance with him in human form, unless he does something like what he did to Guts, but Zodd would probably be able to make space easier then Guts can.

Seripico in my opinion is far more powerful that Griffith was during their first encounter with Zodd. Seripico could hold his own. (Not saying that he would win though)

And you all are forgeting that Azan seemed to do more in the army that Seripico ever did. Yeah, Azan may have fought Guts when Guts was weak, but keep in mind Seripico fought Guts when he couldn't even draw his sword. Azan had much more working against him I think. Guts without his dragonslayer is worse off that guts with weakened legs.

[Arresty]

Seripico in my opinion is far more powerful that Griffith was during their first encounter with Zodd. Seripico could hold his own. (Not saying that he would win though)

OK Serpico may be more powerful then Griffith at first encounter with Zodd, but how well did they fair. They got in one hit when they both attacked him. And he easily would have finished them off after that. Guts got his ass handed to him in that battle, and Guts I would say was stronger than Griffith then, and could probably beat the current Serpico.

And you all are forgetting that Azan seemed to do more in the army that Seripico ever did. Yeah, Azan may have fought Guts when Guts was weak, but keep in mind Seripico fought Guts when he couldn't even draw his sword. Azan had much more working against him I think. Guts without his dragonslayer is worse off that guts with weakened legs.

Guts had more then weak legs. He also could barely swing his sword, and if he can't swing his sword then that would still fall into him unable to use the Dragon Slayer. If Guts was in top shape he would first cut Azan's weapon in half then then Azan. The reason why we are saying Serpico has a better chance is because he uses his head in battle. Serpico intentionally set up the fight with Guts in that location so Guts would be unable to use his sword. That is why Serpico is a deadly opponent, is because he is very smart, and knows how to take advantage of a mans weaknesses. Azan I don't think could do that, not to mention any disadvantage to Guts would be more of a disadvantage to Azan, since they have similar techniques, but Guts is much better then Azan in other styles, so eliminate one option and Guts has more.

[Starnum]

Dos: That he/she you’re referring to is a he. Plus, it’s Gatts and Casca's son. You know it is man…but yeah, we’ll see him again.

Balor: Um, I seriously doubt any of Gatts’ companions are going to die due to the Berserker Armor. You can bank on it.

Anyway, Serpico is definitely awesome, but I don’t think he could handle Zodd. He’d be okay at first, until Zodd stopped playing around. He could probably hold out until Zodd transformed, but only if he had a really good plan, which he’d only have if he’d observed him before.