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I agree that sequals should only be made if they can improve on the original. Sadly, it's rare that this is actually the case.
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I can see it now. A George Lucas and Steven Spielberg remake that replaced all the members of the Band of the Hawk with Ewoks, and all the swords are replaced with walkie-talkies.
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sadly enough, they make sequels as long as the name sells
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Oh come on you guys are telling me that you wouldnt want to see a second season of Berserk Anime?? I think that would rock... they could intro puck in a different way, like a flash back to Ricket's memories of the elclipse, and events after. they could also intro Sk right after Guts's Eye bloods over when SK comes to kill Void... so dont say they spoiled a 2nd season because where there is a Will there is a way.
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Sandman wrote:Oh come on you guys are telling me that you wouldnt want to see a second season of Berserk Anime??
Yes, that is exactly what I am telling you. It would be horrible.
Sandman wrote:I think that would rock... they could intro puck in a different way, like a flash back to Ricket's memories of the elclipse, and events after. they could also intro Sk right after Guts's Eye bloods over when SK comes to kill Void... so dont say they spoiled a 2nd season because where there is a Will there is a way.
They've already done too much to differenciate the anime and the manga, anything done otherwise would feel like (and rightfully so because it would in fact be) a cop out. Besides, look at the Albion Arc and see if there is any piece of story that makes up more than an episode that even Japanese TV would let one. There was enough editting done to the original series as it was. Between the hookers, the cannabal pagans, and the religous overtones, you would get some editted up piece of garbage that was nothing like the original Berserk.
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Damn your right about the editing... how about a anime movie that covered from the eclipse to the part right after they decide to go to Elfheim to get Casca's memory back... that takes care of the editing, but will it do justice to the manga??? We wont know until someone tries :twisted:
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Sandman wrote:Oh come on you guys are telling me that you wouldnt want to see a second season of Berserk Anime?? I think that would rock... they could intro puck in a different way, like a flash back to Ricket's memories of the elclipse, and events after. they could also intro Sk right after Guts's Eye bloods over when SK comes to kill Void... so dont say they spoiled a 2nd season because where there is a Will there is a way.
First, If they are going to do a second season, they should redo the first season.
Second, if that happens, then make it uncut and exactly according to the manga.
Third, since we know that wont happen cuz of all the sex and blood, they will have to do what they are currently doing with hellsing. 2hr OAVs
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well thats my suggestion.

But if they do a direct sequel to the anime that is currently out, then they are missing Puck... and How will they introduce him?
And in the very beginning of the anime, they said that Griffith is King of Midland.
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I am not saying it would be easy but it is possible to do... Puck could get intro'ed on Guts's Apostle crusade... oh and another way to get around the editing would be to have a company like HBO to pick it up they dont care about all the bad stuff so there you go :twisted:
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And the huge number of minor inconsistencies, such as Griffith being called king of Midlands, and the Kushan assassins/prince who was never introduced? There are just a bunch of things that were removed from the anime for the sake of simplicity, but become very important to the overal plot of the manga. I don't think it'd work.
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Oh come on Silat is such a minor Character that he doesnt even matter in the manga, the only reason he is kept around is to give insight about the Kushan... Plus they could intro him some where if they needed to, and like I said before if someone really wanted too they could make a movie or second season... but no one was yet so I guess people (including me) are satisfied with the manga, which is fine with me... they just need to port the PS2 game and I would be happy :twisted:
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Maybe Silat won't be so minor in the future, he was planning something in the last chapter...

The anime was intended to last only one season, so if they did decide to do more they would have to remake it. Too many little details matter. An OAV remake would be far better than a second season anyways.
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Nah they could easily do the whole thing again , better animation and following the manga , I guess the games are the ones taking place the of the anime, first game was after the eclipse and the second one about the whole Slan fight and the apparition of the Berserker armor.
But it would be awesome to see Berserk in anime again , but this time doing it right .
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Re-doing the anime wouldn't be that bad of an idea. However it was close to the manga minus the gore and nudity, which for TV purposes would have to be cut.

As for the games, the first game was for dreamcast and that was a piece of crap and didn't really follow the manga at all.
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Gundam_Bobcat wrote:Re-doing the anime wouldn't be that bad of an idea. However it was close to the manga minus the gore and nudity, which for TV purposes would have to be cut.
That's why releasing it straight to video (OAV) would be an even better idea. No need to hold back on the blood and guts (Guts) and there'd be higher quality in animation.

As for the DC game, I didn't think it was all that bad and the English voice acting was better than the anime dub. The stroyline could have made up a few chapters in the manga 'coz I've read somewhere it was penned by Miura himself. I'm not too sure on that one though.
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The reason why berserk anime was not longer then the eclipse is because the manga only were @ vol 13-14 around the year of 97
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Gundam_Bobcat wrote:Re-doing the anime wouldn't be that bad of an idea. However it was close to the manga minus the gore and nudity, which for TV purposes would have to be cut.

As for the games, the first game was for dreamcast and that was a piece of crap and didn't really follow the manga at all.
I dont' remember exactly but the kid in the DC game appeared in the manga ( but only like one page ) , not sure of that.
As for the anime yeah what Englishjim says sounds better , that way the gore would be as the one in the manga.
Let's make a petition online for a Remake of Berserk anime. :twisted:
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I liked the anime all the way up until they started screwing everything up... wait... that was the first episode O.o

Sure, Berserk was a good anime, if u have never read the manga... but if you read the mangam you see all teh differences. I can admit, the sex and the "excessive" gore can be taken out, but you cant change the chars or the storyline. Everything is in place for a reason.

So... Id do the oav thing, direct to dvd, so that they dont have to cut anything
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Gattsblackfalcon wrote:Let's make a petition online for a Remake of Berserk anime. :Twisted:
I have found internet petitions to be a piss-poor way to get something you want... Gun/Knife point works a lot better :twisted:
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On the other hand, there's a good chance (at least based on his manga) that Miura has seen enough of violence not to be intimidated by simple physical threats. And if you actually carried out those threats, and made Miura incapable of continuing the manga, thousands of rabid Berserk fans would undoubtably descend upon you to tear you limb from limb.
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:LOL: True but I am pretty sure it wouldn't be Muira you would have to convince it would probably be some up tight high raise big shot, who would piss his/her pant with that threat :twisted:
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Hmm I don't get that one Sandman , something like an sniper ? :twisted:
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True but I am pretty sure it wouldn't be Muira you would have to convince

I thought Miura had stated that he didn't want to see another Berserk animated series? Maybe I shouldn't post something like that without some sort of proof - I think I read it in an issue of Anime Insider with some special focus on sequels (the new Hellsing OVAs were coming out). So maybe we do need to threaten Miura... but just stick to his kneecaps, right?
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Sandman wrote: Gun/Knife point works a lot better :twisted:
Dude you're too hardcore. :twisted:
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I thought Miura had stated that he didn't want to see another Berserk animated series? Maybe I shouldn't post something like that without some sort of proof - I think I read it in an issue of Anime Insider with some special focus on sequels (the new Hellsing OVAs were coming out). So maybe we do need to threaten Miura... but just stick to his kneecaps, right?
Still a bad idea. Although it wouldn't technically make him incapable, of continuing the manga, the pain would probably make it difficult to focus, and worse he might be so offended that his fans acted that way that he might stop producing the manga at all. So at best we have several months of downtime as he heals, at worst no more manga at all. Either outcome is probably enough to justify the hords of rabid fans descending on you to tear you limb from limb.
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