Berserk Chapter: 279

[Gattsblackfalcon]

Haha that youtube video is teh shit .

[Starlore]

Ok, my patience has worn far too thin.

Sending a letter to Miura today, a la magazine/newspaper letter cut-out threat, complete w/a nekkid shot of yours truly. That should be enough to not only strike much fear into his soul, but send him careening out of control in a downward spiral towards insanity, significant enough to illicit a barrage of chapters being produced (albeit, much akin to the Eclipse in their horrific nature).

Yes, I think my 'muse' ability will do him much justice

[EnglishJim]

Sending a letter to Miura today, a la magazine/newspaper letter cut-out threat, complete w/a nekkid shot of yours truly.

Send that to all the guys on here first and then we will, er, pass it on.

Gotta love that YouTube video. Live-Action RPG’ers suck, but not more than Fur Suiters, it says so in this editorial...http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/37147 ... ate_Losers

[Istvan]

True, but some prices are greater then the others.

Ok, but some powers are also greater then others, and the power of the Darkness is the greatest of all, so it's worth it.

I have never said that mortals are good. Mortals, and all beings, are in the begging, by default, neutral. What they become later is a product of their own decisions.
But in this world threatened to be covered in Darkness, being 'good' is the only choice for anyone who wants to survive. If forces of light become equal with forces of dark, the balance (though strenuous) will be achieved.

I stand corrected, but you're still putting things through a human lens by assuming that all that is mortal is born neutral. There are some beings (and we are one of them) who are born favoring the Darkness or the Light. I never had any use for "light" or "good", nor will I ever.
You're wrong about survival. Allying with 'good' may delay your end, but that is all it can do, for eventually the Darkness will triumph. For one who truly wishes to survive, the only choice is to become one with the Darkness. Your 'balance' is impossible, for the Light is by nature limited and finite, whereas the Darkness is infinite. No matter how much of it is destroyed, it is never lessened, so the Light can never even achieve balance with it, let alone victory.

It is strange to my mind how you precisely observe the weaknesses of our choices, but fail to grasp your own failures. Your arrogance and over-confidence are weaknesses greater that you can imagine. The fact that you might not have been defeated before will make your fall correspondingly harder. The turmoil of emotions inside you that strenghtned the Darkness within you gives you some of your powers, but also leads to
your downfall. The inability to control your emotions (for controlling them, restricting them, would mean limiting the reaches of your dark spirit and losing some of your might) makes you unstable and prone to mistakes. All of these combined gives you as many flaws as we have. You see, although you creatures twisted the darkness and tipped the scales of neutrality, the initial Balance survives, though on higher levels.

Bah, foolishness. You fail to grasp the nature of Darkness. I do not suffer from arrogance or overconfidence, nor any other such weakness. Arrogance is to think yourself better then you are, but I know exactly how powerful I am, and have no delusions about this. If this looks to you like arrogance, it is simply because I truly am that powerful. Yet I fully admit that there are those of the Darkness stronger then I, who could crush me utterly if they decided to. There are even (though far fewer) some in the Light who could do so, did I not call allies to my aid against them. I fully understand this, and make allowances for it in my planning.
Nor am I unable to control my emotions. You see but one facet of the Darkness, yet the Darkness is infinite, with many variations on a theme. One of the aspects of the Darkness that you haven't considered is "cold". I do not allow emotions to rule me, but pure intellect, untouched by emotion. I crush those who stand in my way not from anger at their interference, but simply because they are in my way, and so must be removed. All of my actions are carried out coldly, calmly, and with infinite patience. If I suffer a setback, I simply begin again, and waste no time or energy raging at what has occured. This coldness and patience are also aspects of the Darkness, and will ultimately bring us victory. Indeed, to an extent we approve of you of the Light, since you provide a medium for weeding out the weak of our number. Arrogance, and an inability to rule ones emotions are weaknesses, and you of the Light help to weed out those of us who posses them, weakening yourselves in the process, while those of us without such follies continue to build our power, growing ever more powerful as the unsuitable are removed.

You will learn in time. You will learn as you learn what is the price of following Darkness. You will learn as the force which you considered to be yours to command slowly takes hold over you and deforms you from within.

I believe I have addressed this before, in another thread. Of course I don't rule the Darkness, I am a part of it as much as it is a part of me, and I act as one of the aspects of the Darkness. I already explained this in more detail, but this is a summary.

Beware Istvan, for here comes the True Lord of the Darkness!

Indeed, there are Dark Lords greater even than I, although they are few in number.

I swear you guys are all getting weirder and weirder.

It was ok when Femto was just offering his man-love to everyone. But even without reading that page-long madness, I know this is worse.

Normallacy is boring. Weirdness is good for you. You should indulge in more of it.

[Sandman]

Just so everyone would know how I was feeling

[Starlore]

Sending a letter to Miura today, a la magazine/newspaper letter cut-out threat, complete w/a nekkid shot of yours truly.

Send that to all the guys on here first and then we will, er, pass it on.

Oooh another masochist...yay!

like any poison, Rx, or other potentially harmful, sometimes addicting nature'd substance, I come w/a warning label.

Warning: Viewing of mentioned image by mortals (unlike Miura), may lead to hyperacidification of the blood resulting in the dissolving of eyes, veins & ultimately the entire fleshy vessel.

Yes, bloody, melted bubble gum consistency, people goo' sludgey smears. Mmmmm

[psi29a]

Sending a letter to Miura today, a la magazine/newspaper letter cut-out threat, complete w/a nekkid shot of yours truly.

Send that to all the guys on here first and then we will, er, pass it on.

Oooh another masochist...yay!

like any poison, Rx, or other potentially harmful, sometimes addicting nature'd substance, I come w/a warning label.

Warning: Viewing of mentioned image by mortals (unlike Miura), may lead to hyperacidification of the blood resulting in the dissolving of eyes, veins & ultimately the entire fleshy vessel.

Yes, bloody, melted bubble gum consistency, people goo' sludgey smears. Mmmmm

Mmmm, reminds me of LCL Fluid from Eva. Way to go Miura, you made everyone's AT-field collapse.

[Starlore]

Mmmm, reminds me of LCL Fluid from Eva. Way to go Miura, you made everyone's AT-field collapse.

Werd!

[Istvan]

Mmmm, reminds me of LCL Fluid from Eva. Way to go Miura, you made everyone's AT-field collapse.

That's a good one, Psi. I hadn't even thought of that, but it does seem to fit perfectly.

[EnglishJim]

like any poison, Rx, or other potentially harmful, sometimes addicting nature'd substance, I come w/a warning label.

All that and more. Although they do have side effects, look at what that shit did to me...



After reading your warning label I'm still tempted, but I've got to see the end of Berserk before my eyeballs dissolve .

[Starlore]

After reading your warning label I'm still tempted, but I've got to see the end of Berserk before my eyeballs dissolve .

My point exactly

& that strung out kitty is some fucked up funny, shit!

[Orm]

Ah, this long wait really gives a good feel for the endless dull sea-travelling Gatts is enduring now.... Miura is really a great narrator!

[Istvan]

Ok, that's an awesome kitty picture. Where'd you get it?

[EnglishJim]

Some Russian site. I typed some shit into Google Image Search a while back and it came up. I saw it, laughed at it, then saved it .

[Starnum]

Maybe your seeing something I'm not, but I wouldn't have said that what Guts is trying to do is save Griffith's life...

No, I wouldn't say he is either. However, I think it would be worth it to him, if the chance presented itself. I doubt that'll happen though.

[Istvan]

So you think that if there was a way to save Griffith, Guts would give up his revenge to take it? I can't really see it, especially since Griffith was still human when he chose to sacrifice all of the Hawks. I just can't see Guts ever being willing to let that go, under any circumstances.

[inkthinker]

After what he did to Casca, I think it would be really out of character for Guts to forgive Griffith. For that matter, I think it would be out of character for Griffith to seek forgiveness... he wasn't tricked into his decision, nor forced. He knowingly and willingly sacrificed the souls of his friends and family to achieve ultimate power, and for that there can be no absolution.

[MrFelony]

could griffith ever forgive guts for abandoning him, causing his ruin, and stealing casca from him?

[Istvan]

After what he did to Casca, I think it would be really out of character for Guts to forgive Griffith. For that matter, I think it would be out of character for Griffith to seek forgiveness... he wasn't tricked into his decision, nor forced. He knowingly and willingly sacrificed the souls of his friends and family to achieve ultimate power, and for that there can be no absolution.

I agree, Griffith is not the type to ever ask for forgiveness. He acts as he thinks he must/should/wants to, and makes no excuse for it. I think his words on the hill of swords really say it all, when he told Guts that he simply did not abandon his dream. Beyond that, he doesn't even feel that his actions need an explanation.

As for Guts, I haven't seen anything in his character to indicate that he could ever forgive Griffith. It just doesn't seem like a true possibility.

[Eldo]

I agree, Griffith is not the type to ever ask for forgiveness. He acts as he thinks he must/should/wants to, and makes no excuse for it.

The people he apologises to ends up six feet under.

[Starnum]

No, you guys are right. The chances of that happening are practically zero. I just think that's what could make it an interesting outcome. In any case, I don't blame Gatts for Griffith's downfall. Although I can assume that Griffith was pretty sore about it. I don't think he really cared if Casca fell in love with Gatts or not, but in the end he may have been bitter about it all. *shrugs*

[Gattsblackfalcon]

I would like to see Gatts killing Griffith without any remorse ( there is no friend ship only hate in Gatts heart ) that and I hate Griffith too .

[Istvan]

In any case, I don't blame Gatts for Griffith's downfall. Although I can assume that Griffith was pretty sore about it. I don't think he really cared if Casca fell in love with Gatts or not, but in the end he may have been bitter about it all. *shrugs*

I don't think Caska falling for Guts had anything to do with Griffith's fall, either, but I still think it's his fault. I wouldn't say "blame" exactly, since it was clearly unintentional, but it's still Guts fault. It was Guts leaving that destroyed Griffith, not the fact that Caska fell in love with him.

[inkthinker]

Guts abandonment of Griffith was the first time in a long time that someone was able to successfully exert their will over Griffith's own. Griffith wanted to control Guts, and yet against all his power Guts still left. For the first time in so many years, Griffith was utterly helpless.

Griffith does NOT do "helpless", ever.

This preciptates Griffith's need to prove that he still has the power to exert his will, and he foolishly moves to take Charlotte far too early (had his plans proceeded more slowly and carefully, he could have very easily taken the Princess and the whole kingdom of Midland), and his downfall proceeded from there. Had he remained patient, he might have very well survived the loss of Guts, but once he lost control over his world, his attempts to regain it only ended in his complete ruin.

His rape of Casca wasn't so much about any love or lust he had for her, but rather he was forcefully proving to Guts that once again, Griffith was in ultimate control. He rapes Casca directly in front of Guts, looking him in the eyes, forcing him to watch the most horrible thing, and making Guts the one who was completely helpless.

Griffith's main drive is not revenge, or lust, or hatred, it's POWER. He will do anything, anything, to achieve power.

The ironic thing is that Griffith's drive for power was what inspired Guts to leave the Hawks and seek his own independance... Guts wanted to earn Griffith's respect as an equal. In a very real sense, Griffith created his own nemesis.

[Brainpiercing]

Guts abandonment of Griffith was the first time in a long time that someone was able to successfully exert their will over Griffith's own. Griffith wanted to control Guts, and yet against all his power Guts still left. For the first time in so many years, Griffith was utterly helpless.

Griffith does NOT do "helpless", ever.

This preciptates Griffith's need to prove that he still has the power to exert his will, and he foolishly moves to take Charlotte far too early (had his plans proceeded more slowly and carefully, he could have very easily taken the Princess and the whole kingdom of Midland), and his downfall proceeded from there. Had he remained patient, he might have very well survived the loss of Guts, but once he lost control over his world, his attempts to regain it only ended in his complete ruin.

His rape of Casca wasn't so much about any love or lust he had for her, but rather he was forcefully proving to Guts that once again, Griffith was in ultimate control. He rapes Casca directly in front of Guts, looking him in the eyes, forcing him to watch the most horrible thing, and making Guts the one who was completely helpless.

Griffith's main drive is not revenge, or lust, or hatred, it's POWER. He will do anything, anything, to achieve power.

The ironic thing is that Griffith's drive for power was what inspired Guts to leave the Hawks and seek his own independance... Guts wanted to earn Griffith's respect as an equal. In a very real sense, Griffith created his own nemesis.

Before being tortured he is mildy more human than that, his taking of Charlotte is self-destructive from the outset, even though his control mania may have played his mind. He's not immune to the pain at that point. After being tortured this is a different matter, although his actions go from self-destructive to merely destructive.