Newbie Berserk Discussion Thread

Post by **Starnum** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 2:12 am

Yeah, I trust Skull Knight. Besides, the child was obviously not fully developed. It was only because of Griffith's demon seed that the little tike survived the miscarriage.

Post by **MrFelony** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 3:51 am

isn't it all speculation bout the child. where does it show SK saying that?

Post by **Dagda Mor** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:35 am

We aren't talking abou the one at the beach. We're talking about the one which emerged from Caska's womb whilst Guts and the Skull Knight looked on.

Post by **MrFelony** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 4:56 am

same thing

...not really but still

Post by **azzydakiller** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:16 am

Dagda Mor wrote:The skull knight told us so. We don't have any reason to doubt his word.

yeah but he also said that the baby was evil... and yet he doesnt seem to be.

anyway SK is not an all knowing god he might have been wrong.

Post by **Skullkracker** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 10:37 am

then let's just say that Guts got there first...if you know what I mean

anyway if it wasn't his child, then why the fuck would he keep appearing to him, and even warn him that Caska was in trouble?
Whitey G could have saved her just the same

Post by **azzydakiller** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 1:16 pm

True... but he might have not impragenated her. its not always 100% you know
as for why he appeared to guts...
maybe he thinks its that he is his father or maybe he followed him becouse he has the mark of a sacrifice wich attracts the spirits....

anyway the reason i bring this up is becouse maybe this will become part of the plot later on, and maybe this might be another issue that gutts has to face

Post by **MrFelony** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:15 pm

you forget skully.

the baby warned guts because Idea wanted/needed Guts to come save casca so that she and the baby could come into contact with the egg apostle so that he could create griffith (and the beach child im assuming) from the evil fetus. whitey G wasnt "born" yet.

Casca is undoubtedly the mother, so the child does whatever he can to protect her.

Post by **Aeriel** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:18 pm

Question: why would the Egg apostle create the Beachboy?

Post by **Gundam_Bobcat** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 9:38 pm

Aeriel wrote:Question: why would the Egg apostle create the Beachboy?

Personally I dont think it is, the Egg apostle turned into new Griffith. As for the beach kid I really dont have a good idea of who or what it is, I know for sure it cant be an apostle cause Caska held the boy. The only odd point is that the boy looks like it could be the kid of Guts and Caska.

Post by **MrFelony** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 11:07 pm

hmm the idea that the egg apostle turned into griffith is interesting, hadnt thought of that. what i've always thought was that the egg apostle took the "infected fetus child" of casca and seperated her and guts' child from the demon seed of griffith and turned that demon seed into a worldly griffith. the child however, had been vastly altered by hosting griffith's seed and being in the eclipse so it has powers or something...

however, the idea of the egg apostle combining itself with the griffith seed could possibly work...if anyone would want to put of the pages where he transforms that'd be nice since i dont have my berserk chapters anymore I can't reread them myself

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Post by **Gattsblackfalcon** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:14 am

this theories about that kid sounds good , that kid is a total mystery right now but i can guess a lot of things about him , like is really Griffith the chosen to create the new world ? well it could be , but if that kid was born from the egg apostle too then i really would bet that this is the one who will make the new world ( the change that the egg apostle whised ) , i mean that kid seems powerful ( or at least have some magic power ) so or is an apostle or Gatts son , i hope Gatts son because it would be really cool to see this kid fighting to protect his father against other apostle or even Griffith , just think about that scenario ......

Post by **Dagda Mor** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 7:47 am

Here's a creepy theory: What if the kid was Griffith? Not Griffith's child, but ol'Shiny-Hair himself? Since it seems probable that griffith is occupying the child's body, what if he's simply indulging in the child's impulses (as we may have seen when he shielded Caska) and taking that form while remaining mentally unchanged?

Really casts everything about that encounter in a new light...

Post by **MrFelony** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:22 am

I think we have a thread for that theory and its 50+ pages long

Post by **Dagda Mor** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 10:32 am

Good thing I was posting about it in this thread then.

Post by **Aeriel** » Wed Oct 18, 2006 12:02 pm

Well, Griffit says (actually, thinks) that he took the body of Caska's child (Beast Swordsman VS Black Swordsman chapter). As for the Egg, what happens to common chicken egg when a chicken immerges? It breaks. It is only a shell, a medium for bringing the chicken in this world (to be eaten, unfortunately

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Post by **agentitai** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 12:55 pm

it is amazing (along so many other things) .... at lest i think so.
I am reading Berserk all over again, and i notice that when Guts took his berserker armor off for the first time he was all skinny and fragile...
And in the city later after he rested and ate he looked much healthier
WOW Kentaro Miura really dedicating attention to the details...

Post by **Aeriel** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 3:42 pm

It is his job

Post by **EnglishJim** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:54 pm

Berserk has a very high standard of artwork, probably the best I've seen in any manga and it steadily gets better throughout the chapters and volumes. That was the initial draw for me, but underneath the severed heads and sea of blood was an excellent story with great plot twists and characters you could grow attached to.

I love Berserk!

It is Miura's baby and I imagine he take's pride in how it's presented and received by the fans. Such is the situation now with chapter 280. He wants to make sure the coming chapters are well layed-out and relevant to the story. Something big is about to happen in the world of Berserk...well, that's what I'd like to think. Perhaps he's partaking in an orgy or torturing the shackled prisoners of his dungeon...*sigh* I just hope theres some new material before '07.

Post by **Aeriel** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 10:41 pm

EnglishJim wrote: Perhaps he's partaking in an orgy or torturing the shackled prisoners of his dungeon...*sigh* I just hope theres some new material before '07.

Judging from this, I think we should go easy on orgies/SM comments from now on. We are corrupting innocent lurkers

Post by **Istvan** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:49 pm

Don't be silly. If anything, maybe we should increase the number of such comments, since it is becoming clear that they are effective. After all, corruption is good for the soul. We have a duty to corrupt as many innocents as possible, for their own good.

Besides, anyone who can remain pure and uncorrupt after reading all of Berserk, and enjoy the series, deserves to be shot on general principle for setting a bad example.

Post by **MrFelony** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 1:07 am

i've been setting a bad example for a year now lol

Post by **Aeriel** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:54 pm

Istvan, I fear that more and more you post, more and more you are falling in darkness. It might seem to you that you are actually embracing it and bending it to serve your will, but you are wrong! Ultimately the darkness will consume you and you will find your personality devoured and body consumed by the Dark Lords of the Outer Realms. Remember our mutual hero - Gutts! While he was forced to live his life in darkness (and learned to utilize it somewhat), at the same time he fights it for all he's worth!
Do not underestimate the power of the light side!

Post by **MrFelony** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:53 pm

strong side!...wait you said light side nevermind

+1 take that skully

Post by **Aeriel** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 2:59 pm

MrFelony wrote:strong side!...wait you said light side nevermind

Lol!

MrFelony wrote:+1 take that skully

Huh? Don't understand...