~Moviez Of 2k6~

Post by **Starlore** » Sat Jun 24, 2006 8:23 am

I got Day Watch off some import store on Ebay lol!! There were automatic English subs' (not an option, it was always on) which were fine, altho in one scene in the first 15 minutes of the movie, the subs switched to Russian (for the Russian audience), because the language being spoken was....hrmm, can't remember...but something other than Russian, lol! So it sucked for that minute that you had no idea what was said since the English subs were skipped or simply disabled for that scene (or maybe its some weirdly random shit they decided to do for effect?) but for the most part, you kinda figure it out. I'm sure there will be an assortment of releases in the near future with multiple sub' options. I was just too damn impatient to wait hah.

In agreement with what was mentioned earlier, about the pace of Night Watch being "rushed". It's true, it seemed very rushed, which is odd considering its a Trilogy so there should be ample time to slow down the pace. Still, I found the style of it entertaining & the fact that it sits differently than most "Hollywood-ized" Vampire flicks. It's not totally award worthy, but it broke box office records in Russia...beating out LOTR & Spiderman, respectively

Post by **halfnhalf** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:12 pm

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pict ... large.html

OH SNAP! looks hawt and damn May 2007 seems soo far away.

Post by **Quest** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:18 pm

i was gona post a link to it too!
=)

venom, sandman, gwen, goblin...
looks like a winner again!

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:02 pm

halfnhalf wrote:http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pict ... large.html

OH SNAP! looks hawt and damn May 2007 seems soo far away.

The black costume looks so wrong, its very easy to make it look like the comic just like the red one is.

They must go and ruin the coolest spiderman costume...

Other than that the movie looks very good.

Post by **Femto** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:16 pm

Looks fucking awesome.

I saw parts of it frame by frame and I think the Goblin's costume doesn't have a helmet though, which sucks ass.

The Venom suit sucks too, but it doesn't look too terrible in motion.

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 10:27 pm

No but that costume is holy to many spiderman fans cause Venom is THE spiderman Villain.

I mean i was starting to become bored by spiderman stories just before Venom showed up and messed up Peter's life. He is too important to mess with.

Post by **Femto** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:31 pm

Libaax wrote:Venom is THE spiderman Villain.

That would be the Green Goblin.

Venom is an extremely 2-dimensional character.

Hey, as long as the actual Venom costume in the movie is the one we all know and love, then I have no qualms.

And after seeing Flint Marko, there's no reason why it shouldn't be.

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:45 pm

Its clear that they will use the same black suit as the Venom suit just like the comic. Why change the suits look when they already have a black suit that later becomes Venom's.

For me its the other way around Green Goblins is the reason Spidey's villains sucked before Venom.

Their powers being similer,the alien bieng in love with Peter wanting to be one with him again,that he cant sense him,Venom being alot stronger and the only villain he cant beat are what makes Venom special.

Post by **halfnhalf** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:26 am

in the trailer the footage to me looks like that the venom suit is on parker only. Yah looks nothign like the black spidey, but it still looks freaking tyte.

Venom cant create himself into being a villain that can create a solid movie. He truly is a 2d character, since well enough there are times where they team up. what exictes me is that SANDMAN is in the movie, quite possible the coolest bad guy?? This movie is gonna be hot. Marvel is on the ball, but we will see tomorrow about DC and their man of steel Superman Returns.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:13 am

Venom is the most dangerous villain he has who cares how many dimension he has.

Frankly all of spidey's villains are 1 or 2 dimensionals.

Sandman looked cool in the movie.

Post by **halfnhalf** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:51 am

Libaax wrote:Venom is the most dangerous villain he has who cares how many dimension he has.

Frankly all of spidey's villains are 1 or 2 dimensionals.

Sandman looked cool in the movie.

truly if you wanted to say dangerous, anyone can be dangerous, its called comics. The trick with spiderman is that half the people thinks he is a hero, the other half dont. seriously, sandman, can go sand form then go into peter's mouth and the revert back to human form. The true difference spider man's enemies is that he knows them all personal. he knows brock, he knows octavious, he knows dr. connors, he knows the green goblin, and of course his worse enemy is J. Jona Jameson.

venom is awesome, because he s everything of spiderman but better. of course i would love to have a black suit that did crazy shit.

the one thing i hope is that this movie has this quote, "We are Venom!" man that quote rocks.

Post by **Loeviz** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:59 pm

Damn, I want to see Spiderman now

I cant see that movie fail in any way whatsoever

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:25 pm

halfnhalf wrote:
Libaax wrote:Venom is the most dangerous villain he has who cares how many dimension he has.

Frankly all of spidey's villains are 1 or 2 dimensionals.

Sandman looked cool in the movie.
truly if you wanted to say dangerous, anyone can be dangerous, its called comics. The trick with spiderman is that half the people thinks he is a hero, the other half dont. seriously, sandman, can go sand form then go into peter's mouth and the revert back to human form. The true difference spider man's enemies is that he knows them all personal. he knows brock, he knows octavious, he knows dr. connors, he knows the green goblin, and of course his worse enemy is J. Jona Jameson.

venom is awesome, because he s everything of spiderman but better. of course i would love to have a black suit that did crazy shit.

the one thing i hope is that this movie has this quote, "We are Venom!" man that quote rocks.

What i mean by dangerous is thay Venom is the only villain he runs away from in a fight cause he knows he cant beat him cause of Venom's powers being almost limitless.

I mean every other spidey villain are freaks whose powers can come near Spidey's or guys with a suit not an alien symbiote with his powers but alot stronger with crazy human host.

You understand what i mean now?

Did you read the original Venom stories?

I am not dissing Sandman, he is actually one of few of spidey's villain that i like and will look forward to seeing in the movie.

I have always liked how strange his powers are, even in 60's comics i never got enough of seeing Spidey getting sands in his mouth and fighting for his breath

Post by **Femto** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:49 pm

Libaax wrote:Frankly all of spidey's villains are 1 or 2 dimensionals.

Not the Green Goblin.

Some of the Chameleon's stories are pretty crazy as well and even someone like the Lizard can bring more to the table than Venom.

He's cool and all but the "I want revenge on Parker" thing got old from day one.

Even Carnage can be a more interesting character than Venom.

If you've read one Spider-Man/Venom story, you've pretty much read them all.

I'm not saying he won't make a good villain for the movie (Doc Ock is pretty 2D as well and Spider-Man 2 is the best comic book movie ever) or that's he's a terrible character (he's arguably the best non-Stan Lee Spider-Man villain) but there are many more interesting characters than Venom out there.

Anyway, I was reading the Newsarama thread on the trailer and I got the following quote written by some guy that claims to work for a company involved in Spider-Man 3 or something like that. The following should be obviously taken as rumors and I'm putting a SPOILER WARNING just in case:

peter-man wrote:"Soooo..I used to post here as ParkerMan, but got kinda busted for revealing stuff about Venom and Sandman, who was playing who..I told ya they were building pumpkin bombs 2 years ago..anyhoo. SPOILERS Here's the deal..Venom looks absolutley incredible...Trust me, he rocks in this, but GG( and yes it is GG2 not HobGoblin) still looks ______..little tit bit..this isn't the last chapter in the film,but it is the end of the road for Harry..this is the end of the GG arc..and the beginning of a new one. Some of the scenes are lifted directly from the McFarlane comics from the early 90's, I mean literlaly an exact replication..kinda like how they did with the "Spidey No More" imagery. Bell tower stuff is all in here scene for scene, brock getting suit is all in here, but he's not suicidal. He is basically trying to uncover Spidey's ID (heck just read Civil War 2 buddy) as he takes a BIG BIG dislike to "gone bad" Spidey. He is looking for the story of the year and his big break. He obseeses and follows Spidey everywhere. What I would say is that they kinda go a bit light on the hate for Spidey that Brock has (still awesome, but not as hardcore as comics) Whilst on the trail, Brock gets gooped by the Symbiote (not an alien in this by the way). Venom voice is as you'd expect. Venom is not as huge as comics counterpart, but actually looks much better for it, not really much of a big tongue here either, but yes there IS a BIG WHITE SPIDER CREST. Why is Venom in it? Well it is at the request of well, pretty much everyone at Sony, Raimi wanted Electo (never Chameleon) and Sandman and Black Cat. But agreed to the inclusion of Brock as long as he could tweak the character. As I told ya a year ago, Raimi (as with Singer) sees the Donner Supes films as the pinacle of ComicBook filmage, so he is following the template of the 1st 3 films very (yes even Supes 3)nicely..this film will lead into essentially Spidey vs Spidey..(No Carnage..ever)No plans to turn Venom anti-hero, no spinoffs, this is out and out badass Venom as he was originally conceived. MJ does NOT die..but may not be in next film. Ending is a kinda mirror of Spidey 1.. END SPOILERS"

"..not too much more I can add, this is how I got in trouble last time. Small things OK though..sooo. The Quip rate is UP in 3...but only for a bit, some of the Sandman stuff is hilarious. Bizzarely some of the "dark" Spidey stuff is kinda funny too, Peter is allowed to cut loose on the verbal barrage, but then..the film kinda goes a bit well, bleak.. Harry has some really great moments in thsi one too, I mean real (Holy ____!!) moments, anyone who loved the GG stuff in the comics will lap this up..BUT, the suit is still ____..(re-design was decided not to be necessary, time consuming and expensive), Sony looked at some Alex Ross tuf, there was a debate about whther to go with a minimialistic approach (rubber mask, rag clothing) or even a mutation approach, in the end, for continuity reasons and again for costs, they went with GG from SM1 (slight tweaks, but if you hated the first GG suit, you'll not like the one in 3) The Spidey suit (Red and Blue) has a had a few tweaks also, (mostly the eyes) but nothing too noticable. Black suit Spidey (no, at no point, does it morph into Secret Wars suit), well again, cost, time reasons meant they went for this approach. On screen, the suit looked weird with just a Black scuba suit and White Spider emblem, especially in CGI - looked WAY too cartoony. Also Sony wanted a CLEAR disaprity between Spidey and Venom so as to cause no confusion for casual viewers and also (surprise, surprise - merchandiding thought this would be a better apporach). The Venom look was played around with for ages, again, looked a bit too cartoony as a sleak black suit with just the White emblem..so it has weird veins all over it (supposed to be a twisted version of the webs on Spidey's suit)..sounds weird, looks awesome (you'll prob see this v.soon if you check for Spidey 3 toys). Venom's look is basically in line with what he is meant to be, and that's a really twisted Spidey - the "Symbiote" feeds off your mind, your personality and it takes all the crap outta Pete and puts it in Brock and it emphasises and magnifies all the bad ____ already inherent in Brock, so you see the suit morph from a Spidey suit on Brock into something..else..pure hatred, pure Venom. Brock is built up as a real asshole through the entire pic, you will hate the guy and you know when he becomes Venom, it aint gonna be good for Pete. (He isn't Venom for long though, so don't get hopes up for a full on Venom v Spidey flick - what you do get does look freakin incredible though)Also, yes Brock knows Pete's ID, and yes Peter's Spidey Sense doesn't work against Venom - there's a really cool, dark scene realted to this."

"Starkers..no worries. You know what it is, I am a geek in a job that embraces my geekdom and I am the biggest Spidey fan since I was like 6, so yeah I get into ____ for this kinda stuff, but I think all you Spidey fans deserve some good treatment after what's happened to him in the comics....whatever happens in that medium , you will LOVE Spidey 3 (well so far it looks great, can't see it not turning out that way now most of work is done)..BTW, the effects are way better now, prob see that from trailer, but throughout it does look much better, less rubbery CGI if you know what I mean. '4th' villain isn't quite what you think by the way."

"..OK, quickly..Sandman is the main villain, but don't be disheartened, the stuff he gets to do is really cool (imagine The Mummy, but way cooler). GG is a means to further some key points in the film (relationships) as is the symbiote. Venom is really in ti for the pay off and to get bums on seats, not to say he won't have a bigger part later on, but not main villain. Pacing is basically, this film doesn;t let up, the sappy moments are actually kinda a good payoff from the 1st two films and tie into the villain led plot anyway. MJ and Harry....Pete and Gwen...things change when people change. The way Pete treats Flint Marko is a pivot for the film to turn on..(but he is still a great villain, THC is VERY good in this role) lot of strands in the film, all wrap up 1st two films well and also lead into new stuff."

"the 4th villain... ...sorry dude, really can't say, but it's not what you think. Don't get massive hopes up for it..just to emphasise, Venom DOES appear in this film, just not for the whole film..and his origin is not like the comics - neither the Ultimate route or classic 616 (no Secret Wars)..this is a whole new slimmed down origin for Venom/Brock..with Bell Tower and spillage onto Brock in tact (but he's not suicidal here - he's just pissed with Spidey)"

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:23 pm

I geuss we all have our favs and Venom is mine.

Im not blind enough to say he has more interesting stories than Green Goblin but he is the best villain to me.

If they make Brock and Venom an unimportant part of the movie i will piss on this series....

Post by **MournfulWoods** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:19 pm

For once I'm with Femto there. I like Venom, cool character, but it's the least of the vilains I wanted to see because We've seen it all before. I've watched the venom storyline in the spiderman comics TV series and I would rather watch some of the other vilains instead of seeing it again in a live action movie.

Ho well, I'll enjoy the movie anyway, it's cool stuff. Good trailer. May 2007 is so far away

EDIT: I saw superman yesterday. Loved it. It's really alike with the first movies with Christopher Reeves. My friends tought it lacked action. I tought it had good parts of action and good parts of development.

Post by **Quest** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:37 pm

yea 2007.... i can hardly wait as well.
=)

if possible i would like to see this movie in 2007 as well:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/theitalian/

Post by **Devil_Dante** » Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:16 pm

I watched "The Omen": nice movie, few good scares, not many though. They should've picked another kid to play the evil role. I just don't like the way that kid looks "evil". It looks more like he's constipated.

Post by **SarahofBorg** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 5:25 am

I just came from seeing the new Superman movie, Superman Returns.

I have to confess I'm not normally a superman fan, I just felt like seeing any random movie. I havn't seen any of the other superman movies, I havn't seen the original show, smallvill, read the comic, seen the cartoon etc. In fact, I don't know shit about superman. I knew he didn't like kryponite, he's in love with Louis Lane (didn't know she loved him), he pretends to be Klark Kent, and he's really strong, fast etc. That's it. Very basic knowledge.
I saw the film with my father, whose seen all the movies and all the original show (when he was a kid.)

I loved it, he didn't. Figures eh?

Alright, so I won't compare the film to anything else, and I'm completly unbiased. It had some apparently innacurate plot points (against canon) but I obviously don't care. I thought the special effects were absolutely gorgeous, the acting superb, what's-his-name did a very handsome belivable superman, and I honestly found no significant flaws.

I didn't expect it to be good since I read a lot of bashing reviews, but overall most people seem to like it and I found all the negative arguments were wrong to me. Also, there was a *very* significant "suprise" in the film that will certainly change future movies that follow, but some may find annoying (not me.) Honestly, it's a love-it-or-hate-it movie, but I absolutely loved it. I'd give it 3.5 out of 4.

And don't worry, I plan to see all the superman films now (All of them.)

Post by **halfnhalf** » Fri Jun 30, 2006 6:37 pm

Ok so, VW didnt want their cars to be knownand a machine that kills (hitler's car was a VW) so they didnt let the bug be used in transformers.

BUT, Bumblebee will be in the movie as the new 2007 Camaro and damn it looks hawt.

Post by **Femto** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:01 am

Superman Returns sucked.

The Spider-Man 3 trailer was the best thing about that movie and I've seen that a dozen times already.

Post by **SarahofBorg** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:38 am

I honestly, wholeheartedly don't see how anyone didn't enjoy this movie. Especially the people who claim it didn't have enough action. I think these people are blind.
I just now finished watching the original first Superman movie (1978 that is) for the first time in over a decade. Now I certainly appreciate the '78 film, but it doesn't change my perspective on the new one at all. In comparison, I still find Returns to be an incredable movie.
Not better at all, but still damed great.
I think I might actually rewatch Returns in 3D since I have a 3D theater very nearby, and I imagine it'll be a lot of fun. I mean, the flying scenes in 3D have to be even more stunning.

Common! Don't tell me you didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling when you actually saw a guy aim a gun right at superman's head, shoot it, and we watch in slow motion a close-up of the bullet bouncing off his friggin eyeball, without even blinking. That had to be my favorite moment. Maybe I'll download the movie and make a screencap of it

I also noticed they deliberately stole many lines directly from the first movie, but of course more of as a homage than lack of originality.

And don't tell me this movie wasn't as well written. There were plenty of hard-to-swallow moments in the original film. I mean, you can't turn back time by reversing the rotation of the earth. I have absolutely nothing against the first film, but it wasn't any more perfect than this new one.

Besides, this film has definitly made a superman fan out of me. I plan to watch more superman films, some of the original show, most of the original cartoons and so on, although I still don't plan to read the comic.

Post by **Gaiseric** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:33 am

halfnhalf wrote:Ok so, VW didnt want their cars to be knownand a machine that kills (hitler's car was a VW) so they didnt let the bug be used in transformers.

BUT, Bumblebee will be in the movie as the new 2007 Camaro and damn it looks hawt.

A 2007 Camaro? Thats awesome, I think the car looks great, but how the hell does the Camaro transform into that robot?

And he is screwed if he gets shot in the chest and punctures his intake runners.

Post by **halfnhalf** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 8:17 am

have to wait a year to see how its gonna happen. This is most of our childhood right here, this movie needs to be perfect.

Post by **Femto** » Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:13 pm

SarahofBorg wrote:I honestly, wholeheartedly don't see how anyone didn't enjoy this movie. Especially the people who claim it didn't have enough action. I think these people are blind.
I just now finished watching the original first Superman movie (1978 that is) for the first time in over a decade. Now I certainly appreciate the '78 film, but it doesn't change my perspective on the new one at all. In comparison, I still find Returns to be an incredable movie.
Not better at all, but still damed great.
I think I might actually rewatch Returns in 3D since I have a 3D theater very nearby, and I imagine it'll be a lot of fun. I mean, the flying scenes in 3D have to be even more stunning.

Common! Don't tell me you didn't get a warm fuzzy feeling when you actually saw a guy aim a gun right at superman's head, shoot it, and we watch in slow motion a close-up of the bullet bouncing off his friggin eyeball, without even blinking. That had to be my favorite moment. Maybe I'll download the movie and make a screencap of it

I also noticed they deliberately stole many lines directly from the first movie, but of course more of as a homage than lack of originality.

And don't tell me this movie wasn't as well written. There were plenty of hard-to-swallow moments in the original film. I mean, you can't turn back time by reversing the rotation of the earth. I have absolutely nothing against the first film, but it wasn't any more perfect than this new one.

Besides, this film has definitly made a superman fan out of me. I plan to watch more superman films, some of the original show, most of the original cartoons and so on, although I still don't plan to read the comic.

The movie sucked.

It dragged like hell, many of plot points were extremely hard to swallow (Superman and Clark both return after a five year abscene and nobody can put the pieces together?), Brandon Routh is not a convincing Superman and his costume sucks, Lex Luthor's plot was retarded and the Jason bit felt stupid and tacked on, the CG was average at best, etc, etc, etc.

The movie wouldn't have been so bad if Bryan Singer had tried to do a Superman movie as opposed to a Richard Donner Superman movie. Kevin Spacey might've made a good Luthor, but they made him play Gene Hackman's Luthor instead. Throughout most of the film I was just moving my head in disappointment and I didn't have high expectations to begin with. The only highlight of the film is when Lois Lane is inside the plane and she sees Superman fly past her for the first time through the window. That's about it. That and the Spider-Man 3 trailer.

But hey, if you liked that stupid "bullet in the eye" part, I can see why you liked this crappy movie so much.

Cellophane S > Superman Returns.