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Hawking Says Humans Must Go Into Space

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myway wrote:HONG KONG (AP) - The survival of the human race depends on its ability to find new homes elsewhere in the universe because there's an increasing risk that a disaster will destroy the Earth, world-renowned scientist Stephen Hawking said Tuesday.

The British astrophysicist told a news conference in Hong Kong that humans could have a permanent base on the moon in 20 years and a colony on Mars in the next 40 years.

"We won't find anywhere as nice as Earth unless we go to another star system," added Hawking, who arrived to a rock star's welcome Monday. Tickets for his lecture planned for Wednesday were sold out.

He added that if humans can avoid killing themselves in the next 100 years, they should have space settlements that can continue without support from Earth.

"It is important for the human race to spread out into space for the survival of the species," Hawking said. "Life on Earth is at the ever-increasing risk of being wiped out by a disaster, such as sudden global warming, nuclear war, a genetically engineered virus or other dangers we have not yet thought of."

The 64-year-old scientist - author of the global best seller "A Brief History of Time" - is wheelchair-bound and communicates with the help of a computer because he suffers from a neurological disorder called amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, or ALS.

Hawking said he's teaming up with his daughter to write a children's book about the universe, aimed at the same age range as the Harry Potter books.

"It is a story for children, which explains the wonders of the universe," his daughter, Lucy, added.

They didn't provide other details.
It is about time someone brought this up, I'm tired of only reading in science fiction.

I personally would love the chance to do a one-way trip to mars (or elsewhere) however that brings up problems like communication with immediate and extended families. My folks would cry if they knew they could never hold their grand or great-grand kids.
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nothing new or exciting to me.
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but hawking still alive and well at 64 is good news. its a wonder he lived so long like that. his mind is truly unique.
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I see political problems with any colonization effort... doubtless it would be lead by a corporate entity and only for a profit. As nations, we have not come to a level of coperation that would allow us to jointly colonize anything without squabbling over who's laws would be enforced, who's culture, ethics and systemology would be used. My lifetime? I doubt it, seriously.
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Whoa, Hawking is British? I never noticed an accent.


I think its great, exploring space, colonizing moons and other plantes, space pirates! Awesome.


MsNomer wrote:I see political problems with any colonization effort... doubtless it would be lead by a corporate entity and only for a profit. As nations, we have not come to a level of coperation that would allow us to jointly colonize anything without squabbling over who's laws would be enforced, who's culture, ethics and systemology would be used. My lifetime? I doubt it, seriously.
Pfft, the US will do it and I think most countries would be happy if the Americans left Earth.
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sorry, we're way too busy asserting our will on other nations here on terra firma... why would we leave? And where would we get the money? The budget is geared toward world domination, not planet abandonment.
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Damn hippies! Nothing is wrong with the Earth! But Mars is nice this time of year so I hear. I personally agree with Mr. Hawking. Though I can't help but think of a Total Recall-like situation in the future collonization of space. It will be mega corporations doing the building blocks. Fear not, however, for the great revolution shall come and render ALL MEN (and WOMEN) equal. :twisted:
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We just need to make huge space colonies, that's all.

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time to buy some real estate on mars, who knows, if his predictions r true i could become billionaire when im nearly dead :lol:
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This is easily said then done...first, we need to have the money for it, which would cost the same amount of cash as eradicating poverty in a country, and secondly, I don't think we have the technology to start a settlement or colony in outer space, without the budget. This all sounds so cool, but I think the money should be better spent on dealing with the problems here on Earth. Unless there's a dozen tycoons that are willing to fund and provide the budget for this, it doesn't seem at all possible for now.
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Even there was the tech to go to space and settle somewhere out there,the world isnt ready for it,cause we are ruining the earth with wars,pollution etc why take the misery to another world.


Plus there are better things to spend the money on like povery,diseses etc.
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i think it will take forever before we can reconcile our differences, take a unified stance and then move out from earth.
the more likely scenario is a single nation strong enough and wealthy enough to strike it out on its own. not a pretty thought but its the most likely.

maybe the reason why we have not been contacted by aliens is that all civilisations eventually destroy themselves or bomb themselves back to the stone age before they ever colonise their solar system.
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or maybe the aliens bombed themselves back to the stone age so they cant contact us and are waiting for us to contact them..... :shock:
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panasonic wrote:or maybe the aliens bombed themselves back to the stone age so they cant contact us and are waiting for us to contact them..... :shock:
yes that was my point exactly. all civilisations will never colonise their solar system due to internal conflicts.
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When I read that in the news my reaction was exactly this: Duh

I mean really, was that a hard deduction?

Easier said than done Hawkings my man.

Like what are we going to live off of with the current or even foreseeable technology? We going to eat asteroids and space debris? These distances in space are ridiculously far, and unless we have some kind of wormhole technology or stargate we're not really going to travel to another solar system. It takes like a year to get to Mars, and we're talking about things that are thousands of times further away.

Sorry, reality is harsh. Technology isn't something magical, like the media and science magazines lead people to believe. Just because they release technology progressively to not break the economy and systematically squeeze profits off people it doesn't mean that eventually things are going to double up into whatever we will. There are actually scale limitations. It's like saying a bacteria will one day figure out a way to change the channel on your TV remote.

It's more about nanotechnology and genetic engineering. Is it actually possible to reconstruct matter into anything without tons of lost energy and are there renewable energy resources? If not then we're fucked, so sad, too bad. The organic plague known as humanity will die off like countless other species do on a regular basis throughout the universe. We need some kind way to sustain ourselves indefinitely to actually "survive". So we propagate for another million years in space spending our time trying to propagate indefinitely, but we run out of resources and die anyway.

Meanwhile this guy is still in a wheelchair and we're shooting people off the planet with really powerful missiles.

Now, I'm not against space exploration at all. I think it would be cool. I always wanted to be a space pirate. It would be exciting times, and "we" (I use that term loosely as the collective I incidentally belong to against my will) would just let the middle east enrich uranium all day and blow themselves up.

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Eldo wrote:This is easily said then done...first, we need to have the money for it, which would cost the same amount of cash as eradicating poverty in a country, and secondly, I don't think we have the technology to start a settlement or colony in outer space, without the budget. This all sounds so cool, but I think the money should be better spent on dealing with the problems here on Earth. Unless there's a dozen tycoons that are willing to fund and provide the budget for this, it doesn't seem at all possible for now.


I agree naturally with the first part. ;)

Money isn't a fact of life. It's an imaginary currency we made up and abide by and regulate to control societies labor and production. You're making it sound like money has been around forever. People actually survived before money was invented. They grew or hunted their own food and drank from the streams.

Welfare as well as money is a relative concept, and can change and adapt if people are willing to accept it. What if we had a way to reproduce something from almost nothing? If you had a machine that turned your trash into a new computer? Would there be any value to money? Would you still work?

See it's a classic catch 22. We only have this many people and the system we do, because we have so many people and the system that we have. So this is one of those "for your own good" type of bullshit systems that only progresses the problem from the idea of an old solution.

Imagine a society where no one works and we have machines do all our labor and we just hang out all day and do whatever we want without a care in the world. It couldn't happen overnight obviously. I think it kind of contributes to the problem by trying to focus on "money" and "taking care of the problems on Earth". That can all end tomorrow with an nice giant rock from space.

I guarantee you won't be worrying about what kind of money is going into the school systems if you wake up to find the sun blocked out for the next 1000 years.

The society problems are all relative. You can't fix these systems, they weren't devised with reality of today in mind. It's just patching a leaky roof that's going to continue to erode.

Bottom line here, you actually have to survive to bitch about problems with things.
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Starnum wrote:We just need to make huge space colonies, that's all.

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