Linux question...

Website · Post by **Damien** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:02 pm

What places do you use to get linux skin stuff?

Post by **psi29a** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 9:34 pm

wow, this would be the third time i relisted this stuff... and I'm sure this has nothing to do with Linux as there isn't any Linux specific skins, just application specific skins and thus making this question more suitable for the Art & Graphics sub-forum. I would be more than happy to help out with actual Linux related questions though. ^_^

anywho, go here:
http://www.evil-genius.us/forums/viewtopic.php?t=296

Linux is a kernel, the layer between hardware and application software.

A Linux based distrubution is a operating system plus applications that use the Linux kernel.

You can't skin the Windows XP kernel, because the end user never looks at it. Same goes for Linux, BSD, etc etc.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:35 pm

Well I am gonna be using linux more now, since I screwed over my 160 gig, so I thought it be a good oppertunity to start learning linux slackwear.

Post by **psi29a** » Sun Feb 20, 2005 11:53 pm

I've never messed with slackware personally, but from what I hear it is pretty solid distro. It should come with it's own artwork, look and feel.

I'm more of a Gentoo and Debian guy personally. Really, the fundamentals are the same, it is just that the applications differ from user to user, once you get into that you are no longer asking questions about Linux, but more Application specific topics.

Examples of skinnable 'things': Firefox, Thunderbird, xmms, bmp, gnome, kde... the list goes on and on. It just so happens that these things also run on top of Mac and Windows too.

My visual choice has been KDE and Baghira which is a MacOSX 'clone' theme/template for KDE.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 1:18 am

Its good to know that firefox works with linux. another reason linux would be good for me is It can be made to look graphically appealing much better eye candy if you will than windows, the only think I am not too good with is commands.

Post by **psi29a** » Mon Feb 21, 2005 3:55 am

You make it seem as though Linux was a second class citizen. Firefox came out first on Linux before someone decided to port it to Windows. Right now Firefox is maintained for multiple platforms on multiple Arch's.

Well, the command line thing is something you get used to. I can't help myself when I'm using windows, I immediately go for a DOS-Shell(box) and have at it because it takes to damn long to click on the icons and drill down to the information I need. Basically, Microsoft got it right in making administration easy by making sure everything can be manipulated with a mouse. The problem with this is that it takes forever. Anything you can do with a mouse click, you can do in the command prompt. Just takes practice.

I've been in a command line environment since 1985 when my dad sat me down in front of his work's VMS based systems. I think they also had some HP-UX stuff too.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:44 am

I didnt know that about firefox, and I started using pc's around 96-97 with windows 98.

Post by **Buzkashi** » Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:00 am

I started in 95, *remebers Jazz the Jackrabbit*

God i miss you jazz *tear drops* T_T

Website · Post by **Damien** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:00 pm

Well, well I am now using the latest version of slackware.

Yet I'm having problems cause I don't know the basic commands on how to install programs, LOL.. I also need my codecs installed for videos.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:21 am

It really does SUCK being a n00b, I am trying so hard to stop being such a windows whore, but things aren't going so easy.

Post by **Devil_Dante** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:04 pm

Is Linux really better than Windows? if so, plz explain.

Post by **psi29a** » Fri Apr 22, 2005 9:43 pm

You are the only one capable of an answer for that question. It is like asking what is better, IBM PC or Apple MAC. Your question is too vague, and if you can't ask a more precise question then perhaps Windows is just right for you.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 1:12 am

I liked linux alot when it was working, its just a pain to get everything configured to the way you want.

Post by **Devil_Dante** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 5:34 pm

Well, let me be more accurate. Wich Operating System runs your computer faster?

Post by **obi-pie** » Sat Apr 23, 2005 11:12 pm

looking on mindwerks an doing my homework so a little question
where can i setup my disk quota in redhat?

Devil_Dante: it doest matter witch OS runs faster its just where you want to use your pc for but 1 think linux runs faster because it doesnt was al the shit windows has
(correct me if im wrong)

Post by **psi29a** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 1:18 am

Eh, it isn't like you can run MS Office nativly on Linux so there isn't a judge. How ever, I tend to be able to get what I need to get done under Linux faster than on Windows. That is subjective. You can find benchmarks all over the Internet that show stuff like Quake3, ET, UT2004 all running faster or slower depending on the hardware, it's drivers, and other tweaks.

Official view: That is an un-answerable question, because fast is subjective and has so many quantitative values.

Example: how fast can you encode an MP3, well that is a software package thing. Not OS. how many fps can you get with game X, that is dependent on drivers provided by nvidia or ati. That is also not OS dependent.

You see, Linux is a Kernel. The interface between hardware, and user applications which typically is the stuff you use.

I hope this helps, I'm sorry if it doesn't answer you question. You question isn't simple enough to answer and I'm not qualified to say "Fuck yeah it pwnes Winderz" because that just isn't true for 100% of the cases.

obi-pie: I don't know, never messed with Redhat's quota stuff. You might want to hit up google.

Post by **obi-pie** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:00 pm

did it and found it, but it still dont works (red hat is some nasty shit)
an os should be easy to use and ms knows that but linux is geting easyer to use with every version so in 2 years linux is on xp level of useability(but round that time the new ms os is coming out)

Post by **psi29a** » Sun Apr 24, 2005 7:35 pm

I think you have it confused a bit, Linux itself is a kernel. If you are going to compare apples to apples, then compre a Linux Distribution like Redhat, Gentoo, SuSE, Debian to Windows. If you want to compare Linux to anything, compare it to the Windows Kernel, or BSD Kernel.

That is a big problem today is that people ask is Linux better than Windows and that is wrong. It is like saying, what is better, a shipyard or an aircraft carrier.

Post by **obi-pie** » Mon Apr 25, 2005 12:29 pm

true
but wat is the most easy to use linux distro?(i am working with redhat and it sucks bigtime)

Post by **Arresty** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 1:49 am

In my experience redhat is teh easiest to use. Well depends on what version you are using but I would recommend updating to the Fedora Core 3, if you aren't using that already. It is still a pain to do some things though. I just finished installing it the other day. But once you get the hang of it its pretty easy. There are just a few things you have too look up on your own. Google is god man, it answered every question I came across.

And on another note, I am not a proud member of the Linux community again. Windows has pissed me off for the last time.