Mozilla Firefox

Post by **panasonic** » Mon May 01, 2006 2:40 am

That hurts me in my boy parts.

man i wonder how much it would hurt if u actually got kicked there if thats all it took to hurt

+1 (just wanted to use the smiley)

Post by **Quest** » Mon May 01, 2006 6:45 am

Daedelus wrote: FF is safer because of security through obscurity, which any true security expert will tell you is a very poor move. If the coin was flipped and IE had ~10% of the market with FF taking up the majority, I'd be willing to bet a great sum of money that you'd see a lot more exploits written to take advantage of FF. Same reason you don't see a lot of Mac or Linux exploits - the common user isn't there, so there's no point in taking advantage of that. That, and those communities are so small they are able to patch up any exploit that does surface before any real damage is done.

ya i agree with you on this. minority OS, browsers and other software communities tend to promote theirs on the basis that their software is safer than mainstream ones.
but like you said, if their software do become mainstream then they would face the same security threats as the mainstreamers.

but the ease which ff allows their community to add functionality and content via extensions is what makes ff so cool.

Post by **Daedelus** » Mon May 01, 2006 6:59 am

There's no question about extensions making FF extremely customizable helps make it appealing. Just look at the list of extensions I named. Some of the stuff I do wouldn't be possible with IE without external programs taking up quite a bit of resources (DownThemAll! is the prime example here). It'll be interesting to see if Microsoft reacts to this at all, allowing more flexibility in developing add-ins for IE. So far, IE7 doesn't have anything like this but I imagine it could end up coming forth down the road.

Post by **Quest** » Mon May 01, 2006 7:43 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_E ... ersion_7.0

if anything, IE 7 looks set to be a clone of ff.
without the feature of extentions.

i think it was mentioned that MS should just buy out ff instead of attempting to follow in its steps.
yep, MS IE is holding up its users in the proverbial supermarket queue.
whereas MZ FF's users are enjoying innovations at blazing speed.

Post by **Daedelus** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:21 am

It's not a clone of FF any more than all other web browsers are clones of a telnet client.

Microsoft saw tabs as a feature users liked, and added it to their product. Carry that out to whatever else IE is 'ripping off' of FF. If IE were to innovate something and FF copied it, I would venture that you wouldn't see a whole lot of "FF is just an IE clone" crap floating around.

How dare Microsoft see that it may have competition, and adapt to it. Shame on them. That's never, ever been done before.

Hint: I used sarcasm in this post!

Post by **Quest** » Mon May 01, 2006 9:47 am

haha thanks for warning me.
=)
the fact is that mighty MS is following the steps of a lesser opponent.
which means MZ is the leader in browser technology.
to see the giant lagging and trying to catch up with the smaller nimble communities.
that is a big deal to me.

Post by **Eldo** » Mon May 01, 2006 10:24 am

I personally prefer Safari and Netscape over IE. I don't like how IE is an open door for everything nasty.

Does Opera have the click and drag option yet? That's the reason why I don't use it, really.

Post by **Daedelus** » Mon May 01, 2006 4:40 pm

Eldo wrote:I personally prefer Safari and Netscape over IE. I don't like how ActiveX is an open door for everything nasty.

Fixed it for you.

Not to mention, if you don't surf like a total moron, you avoid exploits.

I think Opera either has or is going to soon have that option. I know an Opera zealot that mentioned something about click and drag a while back. I'll see if I can't get more info.

Post by **Albator** » Mon May 01, 2006 5:08 pm

How do you not surf like a total moron?

Post by **Daedelus** » Mon May 01, 2006 5:14 pm

Be smart. Don't go to sites which could be shady. You probably shouldn't click that link for cheap Viagra. Don't randomly install software you've heard nothing or very little about (you have no idea how often I find this is the case when I fix a friend's computer). Open source stuff is usually safe, that community tends to weed out the bullshit quickly. Plus the programs usually perform the task you're looking for and not much else... something I like.

I honestly don't know how to describe it - to me, it's common sense. Just like I wouldn't drive through Detroit at sunset yelling racial obscenities, I wouldn't browse dangerously.

Post by **Femto** » Mon May 01, 2006 5:24 pm

I don't know what's going on in this thread or how it got past page 1.

Post by **Finito** » Mon May 01, 2006 5:36 pm

Its because this thread is attrocibly attractive for emos and most people love to take breakfast in front of their comp while reading threads without gore or digusting guys getting raped inside out because it makes them unable to finish eating.

or im wrong...

Post by **Femto** » Mon May 01, 2006 5:37 pm

Finito wrote:Its because this thread is attrocibly attractive for emos and most people love to take breakfast in front of their comp while reading threads without gore or digusting guys getting raped inside out because it makes them unable to finish eating.

or im wrong...

This has been another stupid post by Finito.

Post by **Finito** » Mon May 01, 2006 5:39 pm

Stupid is not that bad then

Post by **Quest** » Mon May 22, 2006 7:14 pm

irefox has it's own default settings which need to be edited to speed up your bowsing speed...

Well to access the default settings; type "about:config" in the address bar. It does not matter if you are offline...

When in the menu, go to "network.http.pipelining" by default it's value is set to false. Double click it to get it to say True. By setting it True, Firefox will send multiple requests to a website!!!

In the next line, the interger is "network.http.pipelining.maxrequests" It's value by default is 4, so double click on it and set the value between 20 to 30. This lets Firefox send 20 to 30 requests at the same time, to a website.
Note: Don't go past 30...the website still needs it's stupid bandwith...

If you continue down, you will find another integer. "network.http.proxy.pipelining" it's set to false, so double click and set it to true...

Finally add a new integer...Right click anywhere and select: New >> Integer. The preference name will be "nglayout.initialpaint.delay" Set it's value to zero. This new integer makes Firefox display any information it retrieves from the website ASAP. The zero tells the time Firefox should wait before showing data retrieved from an website.

--

Everybody knows that "about:blank" takes you to a blank page.

But what happens is you type "about:mozilla"?

Enjoy your new speed...

got this tip from other forum. i think the 'faster fox' extension will adjust these settings and more as well.
works significantly better if you have faster than dialup connections though.

=)

Post by **psi29a** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:14 pm

Yes, if you do that I will crush you like you attempted to crush my site.

faster fox is a horrible extension, it is very abusive towards servers.

Be careful with those settings, I have no problem banning bandwidth thieves.

Post by **panasonic** » Mon May 22, 2006 10:16 pm

good thing i dotn use extensions then, dont wanna be a bandwith hog by accident

Post by **Eldo** » Mon May 22, 2006 11:01 pm

I have no problems with browsing speed (if anyone has cable, I don't see why they're whining about browsing speed), but my main problem is the resources it hogs up. I just couldn't be bothered to disable some stuff to reduce the resources. I don't think it makes a huge significant difference in the reduction of resource usage even when I've tweaked it anyway.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Tue May 23, 2006 2:20 am

Firefox= Adblock+ tab browsing = FTW.

Post by **SarahofBorg** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:11 am

Best thing I love about firefox is the little bookmark toolbar, where I can have buttons for my most visited sites instead of just a cluttered pull-down menu. This site is one of my buttons.

Post by **arke** » Tue May 23, 2006 4:29 am

Quest wrote:*snips stupid Firefox "optimizations"*

I always wonder where this meme originated because it is so blatantly wrong. Firefox limits network.http.pipelining.maxrequests to 8 internally. And setting nglayout.initialpaint.delay to 0 can make Firefox slower because it has to redraw the page several times.

Please, let this thing die already.

Post by **Daedelus** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:18 pm

SarahofBorg wrote:Best thing I love about firefox is the little bookmark toolbar, where I can have buttons for my most visited sites instead of just a cluttered pull-down menu. This site is one of my buttons.

IE does that to. It's called the Links bar and has been there forever.

Website · Post by **BasouKazuma** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:32 pm

You're all still using Firefox? I'm using Bon Echo .... lol

Post by **psi29a** » Tue May 23, 2006 6:38 pm

BasouKazuma wrote:You're all still using Firefox? I'm using Bon Echo .... lol

Is that supposed to be a joke?

Post by **Daedelus** » Tue May 23, 2006 7:46 pm

Somehow, I doubt it.