Berserk Chapter: 272

Post by **Quest** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:34 am

i have been rereading the series again.
does anyone feel that guts has completely shed his "If your always worried about crushing the ants beneath you; you won't be able to walk." attitude?

when he first met puck, he was this arrogant and rebellious person. his philosophy was that the weak should die and the strong dominate. he didnt care for other people at all. the weak deserved to be plagued by evil because they cannot help themselves.

compared to the guts now, he has changed a lot. its hard to pinpoint but i think his friendship with the original band of hawks changed his character a lot.

Post by **Starnum** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:14 am

Yeah, that was a very dark period in his life, and he's grown as a person since then I believe.

Post by **Istvan** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:24 pm

compared to the guts now, he has changed a lot. its hard to pinpoint but i think his friendship with the original band of hawks changed his character a lot.

I'd agree he's changed a lot, but if you're talking about the changes since he met Puck, it isn't the Band of the Hawk that changed him, it's his new companions and (especially) working to protect Caska. After all, when he met Puck the Band was already dead (their death at Griffith's order is a large part of why he was that way in the first place).

Post by **Quest** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:37 pm

Istvan wrote:
compared to the guts now, he has changed a lot. its hard to pinpoint but i think his friendship with the original band of hawks changed his character a lot.
I'd agree he's changed a lot, but if you're talking about the changes since he met Puck, it isn't the Band of the Hawk that changed him, it's his new companions and (especially) working to protect Caska. After all, when he met Puck the Band was already dead (their death at Griffith's order is a large part of why he was that way in the first place).

hmm you are right!
i got my chronology wrong... guts was arrogant and selfish after the band of hawks were all killed.
but before that he was quite the good and responsible guy.
i guess their death made him cynical. and his journey with his new party changed him to a good guy again.

Post by **Sandman** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:07 pm

Post by **Istvan** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:12 pm

Probably quite a bit of it was his way of walling off his pain.

Post by **psi29a** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:27 am

There was no preview pic on the YA site, however I snipped this for you all. Enjoy, as this means we have the raw.

Post by **MournfulWoods** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:17 am

Hoo seems like trouble ! Gatts going to be sucked in that water summon or he's going to fall in the sea. In any case, can't wait to see how he's going to deal with that.

Post by **Quest** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:12 pm

i love it how with each chapter the armour is constantly reshaping itself!
=)

Post by **Wandering_Mystic** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:03 pm

That pic up there is neat because it is in that frame that Guts lets rip some of his classic one-liners. Good stuff.

Oh and with any luck, the chapter might be ready for release really soon.

Post by **Libaax** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:59 pm

Quest wrote:
Istvan wrote:
compared to the guts now, he has changed a lot. its hard to pinpoint but i think his friendship with the original band of hawks changed his character a lot.
I'd agree he's changed a lot, but if you're talking about the changes since he met Puck, it isn't the Band of the Hawk that changed him, it's his new companions and (especially) working to protect Caska. After all, when he met Puck the Band was already dead (their death at Griffith's order is a large part of why he was that way in the first place).
hmm you are right!
i got my chronology wrong... guts was arrogant and selfish after the band of hawks were all killed.
but before that he was quite the good and responsible guy.
i guess their death made him cynical. and his journey with his new party changed him to a good guy again.

I give the most credit of changing Guts to Puck,cause it was he who had to work hard to change his dark heart. When he met the rest of current crew he was already soft compared to his old dark,cynical self cause he had been with Puck a time before them.

Post by **Gundam_Bobcat** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:06 pm

Keep up the good work.

Its going to be interesting to see how Guts fights the water snake thing. From the little preview it looks like the fight isn't going to go so easy for Guts.

Post by **Istvan** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:23 pm

Especially since I can't see how even someone as strong as Guts is with the armor activated could swim while wearing full armor and carrying the Dragonslayer. That'll be a real problem for him if (as it looks like) he falls in the water.

Post by **Baz** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:43 pm

Don't worry by the next page he is out of the water, it's not that big of a deal really.

Post by **Devil_Dante** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:46 pm

Baz wrote:Don't worry by the next page he is out of the water, it's not that big of a deal really.

SPOILER! lol

+1

Post by **TheDrizzit** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:59 pm

wait a tick....didn't he swim in full armor with raider sword and Caska before? he said he wouldn't want to do it again but hell in this armor he's better. it shouldn't phase him...but then again he is getting a little soft and he also has a hole in his chest.

Post by **malice** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:01 am

I think that armor may have been lighter than his current one. It certainly could have been discarded if he needed, whereas I doubt he wants to lose any pieces of this one.

Post by **Baz** » Mon May 01, 2006 12:55 am

lol please Guts couldn't possible swim with the DS or his amour but there is a loophole to solve that problem. Really guys there is a lot more interesting stuff going on in this one I wouldn't get hung up on Guts swimming(as he doesn't).

Post by **Gundam_Bobcat** » Mon May 01, 2006 3:04 am

Baz wrote:lol please Guts couldn't possible swim with the DS or his amour but there is a loophole to solve that problem. Really guys there is a lot more interesting stuff going on in this one I wouldn't get hung up on Guts swimming(as he doesn't).

Come on, the sword alone has to weight 300 lbs. I can swim with things that heavy any day of the week.

On a more serious note, I'm going to say it has something to do with magic either the witches or Serpico's winds.

Post by **Baz** » Mon May 01, 2006 11:05 am

No you forget the amazing power of jumping! dun don darrr

Post by **Starnum** » Mon May 01, 2006 6:24 pm

Shit, I wouldn't clock that sword over 200 lbs. but you still shouldn't take physics so lightly. If the armor was a normal suit, it'd be a lot harder for him to recover, but as things are now, falling in the water isn't a terrible situation. I'd bet money against anyone here strapping on the sword and some full armor and climbing out of the ocean though, heh.