Berserk Chapter: 270

Post by **azn_l10n** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 7:43 am

Well, let's examine what we know and what we don't and see if we can come to a conclusion.

The extent of Schierke's power consists of:
1. Magical items that encompass the power of the elements
2. Charms and telepathy
3. Alliances with elemental spirits for greater magic
4. Knowledge of the "natural world" (since it seems she considers spiritual and material as one)

The extent of Kushan magical power we can see so far:
1. Changing beasts in to monsters
2. Floating around as Myst (probably only the emperor but when Serpico decapitates the Kushans, there is always myst coming from them, perhaps the source of power?)
3. The ability to sense things from far away or have telepathic communication
4. Float

And that leaves me with...nothing.

No, not really. I was thinking that maybe Daiva would be able to manifest himself as a great monster with several forms of elemental attacks, sort of like how that Dragon apostle can breathe fire, etc. I don't see this upcoming fight as a magical fight but a physical fight with the influence of magic.

And also, thanks for the release.

Post by **Brainpiercing** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:29 am

This chapter is great. Finally some great visuals in a fight with the berserker armour, and some awesome portraits of the armour.

Now unfortunately I anticipate a very short fight for the next chapter, because it's very like Miura to have the enemy make a great speech and then get cut down in a few panels.

Post by **Tempest** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:35 am

azn_l10n wrote:Well, let's examine what we know and what we don't and see if we can come to a conclusion.

The extent of Schierke's power consists of:
1. Magical items that encompass the power of the elements
2. Charms and telepathy
3. Alliances with elemental spirits for greater magic
4. Knowledge of the "natural world" (since it seems she considers spiritual and material as one)

The extent of Kushan magical power we can see so far:
1. Changing beasts in to monsters
2. Floating around as Myst (probably only the emperor but when Serpico decapitates the Kushans, there is always myst coming from them, perhaps the source of power?)
3. The ability to sense things from far away or have telepathic communication
4. Float

And that leaves me with...nothing.

No, not really. I was thinking that maybe Daiva would be able to manifest himself as a great monster with several forms of elemental attacks, sort of like how that Dragon apostle can breathe fire, etc. I don't see this upcoming fight as a magical fight but a physical fight with the influence of magic.

And also, thanks for the release.

Well I highly doubt this guy would take on Guts, having noted his path of destruction so far with great accuracy and not seeming too shocked or fearful, if all he could do was take over animals minds and float.

He'll most likely have some tricks up his sleeve.

Post by **Libaax** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:54 am

What kind of general sorcerar would he be if he cant take on a single swordsman who may be very powerful but he cant cast spells and stuff.

I think he will use his magic against Guts directly or send monsters while he attacks the armour.

Post by **Gundam_Bobcat** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 8:51 pm

Something that i just thought of, what if the Kushan mage "turns off" The Armor of the Berserk. If the mage found or knew a way to do that, Guts would be in a world of trouble if he still had an army of his monsters.

Post by **TheDrizzit** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:58 pm

If he turned it off it wouldn't matter anyway because then Guts would gain control of himself again and fight like he did when he fought grunbeld (sp) (The Dragon Apostle). I wanna see Shierke cast spells through Guts. That would be interesting.

Post by **boag** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 10:08 pm

Holy frell, haven't checked to view the latest chapters in about 2 months, this is great 3 chapters of Berserk for little ol me *JOY*. This will keep me going for while. Thanks and keep up the good work guys.

Post by **Wandering_Mystic** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:48 pm

are you a Farscape fan, boag?

Post by **Istvan** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:14 am

If Schierke can still cast spells while her spirit is in the armor, that will be really cool. Something else that came to me is, we know the Kushan can float, right? How high do you think he could go? Cause if he could float say, a couple hundred feet up, and use air currents to deflect projectile attacks, that might give him the time he needs to chant long spells, and make him really hard for a fighter to handle. Just a thought I had, but it might be worth considering.

Post by **boag** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:56 am

Wandering_Mystic wrote:are you a Farscape fan, boag?

Why yes I am W_M, how did you know?

Post by **Brainpiercing** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:15 am

Istvan wrote:If Schierke can still cast spells while her spirit is in the armor, that will be really cool. Something else that came to me is, we know the Kushan can float, right? How high do you think he could go? Cause if he could float say, a couple hundred feet up, and use air currents to deflect projectile attacks, that might give him the time he needs to chant long spells, and make him really hard for a fighter to handle. Just a thought I had, but it might be worth considering.

Classic D&D tactic: Fly and throw fireballs

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Post by **Eldo** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:18 am

boag wrote:
Wandering_Mystic wrote:are you a Farscape fan, boag?
Why yes I am W_M, how did you know?

'Frell' gave it away.

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 11:06 am

Gundam_Bobcat wrote:Something that i just thought of, what if the Kushan mage "turns off" The Armor of the Berserk. If the mage found or knew a way to do that, Guts would be in a world of trouble if he still had an army of his monsters.

Thats what i said and think will happen.

He should know how dangerous the armour makes Guts,i mean he have seen hundreds of his monsters get butchered.

Post by **Khelegond** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:14 pm

First thing, thanks EG crew. Weren't for you, I would be very upset waiting the brazillians catch up.

Second...ok, not every magic is slow. Sometimes Schierke can simply "stun" weak minded individuals and stop them, or make them act like monkeys

The thing that can happen is Gatts, as always, rush to him. The mage, then, will simply "hold" him. Schierke, then, will have to "Counter-spell" the mage to let Gatts fight. That will make the scene incredibly great, IMHO.

Post by **boag** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:03 pm

Can she even cast spells while she is inside the armor? It must be quite a struggle just to keep her own ego from being swallowed up by the armor.

Post by **Gundam_Bobcat** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:17 pm

From what we know, she cannot, and its not just the armor that could swallow her, Guts's dog demon is there too.

Post by **Sandman** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:19 pm

Thanks for the chapter... I knew we would see that huka smoking guy later cant wait to see what he has up his sleeve

Post by **|||||||** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:36 pm

Shierke needs to take care of herself since if this sorcerer has some power Guts will lose to his rage more and more...and swallow her up eventually.

Post by **Artezul** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:35 pm

Possibly a good learning experience for Schierke; a deepening in her resolve and some experience with magical battles. -test of wills.

Post by **TheDrizzit** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 9:25 pm

If the mage flies high and goes DnD on the party then maybe we will get to see Serpico in action. Maybe (a little far fetched I think) but maybe Shierke will gain control of Guts (or regain his control over himself) then the mage will fly up and Guts will have to ride Serpico up into the air and we will get another air battle! That would be cool but it probably wont happen....I've never ever been right when trying to guess Muira. ^_^

Post by **Sandman** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:19 pm

If guts comes out of the berserk state now he will die.... I wonder what would happen if the fairies tryed to heal Guts while berserk??.... I personally think that its schreike's time to shine... but who knows serpico might be able to bet him he is the shaman assasin

but of course serpico will not enter the fray untill Guts is out of berserk state.

Post by **Istvan** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:58 pm

Second...ok, not every magic is slow. Sometimes Schierke can simply "stun" weak minded individuals and stop them, or make them act like monkeys

Granted, but I question how useful that type of spell would be in this case. Because while I can think of many ways to describe Guts, none of them include any sort of variation of "weak minded". I would think he would shrug off any sort of mental command, especially when in his berserk state. I mean, think about it. If it was that easy to stop him, wouldn't Schierke have done it when it looked like he would attack them on the beach?

I personally think that its schreike's time to shine... but who knows serpico might be able to bet him he is the shaman assasin but of course serpico will not enter the fray untill Guts is out of berserk state.

I agree, that for a mage Schierke and Serpico seem the best suited, so the real questions then become, first, can Schierke work spells while her soul is in the armor, and second, is Serpico foolish enough to get anywhere near Guts while Guts is berserk? The next few chapters look to be very interesting.

Post by **Khelegond** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:45 pm

Hmmm...yeah, Istvan, berserkers are known for being uncontrollable. My bad

The mage won't stop him, at least easily.

I don't think Schierke is having a bad time inside the armor. She might be trying to understand her surroundings, but she had been there before - it's the usual, when she gets to get him back - now this time she's inside. She might have some problems leaving, but I can't see she having any problems casting spells there.

My bets? The mage will fight Gatts in the usual way. Hold spells (which won't work), then every kind of Kushan magic. But he will be MEAT by the end of next chapter. And...

...I'm almost sure they're going to steal that boat to get to Elfheim

Yeah, think about it? I think almost every other boat is burned to the ground, except that one

Problem is crew, though...gotta think about that. Hmmmmmmmmmm...

Post by **Istvan** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:41 pm

True, running a ship that big usually requires a fair size crew, and only one of them is trained in ship handling. Maybe he could give them instructions? The other potential problem I see has to do with how much damage the ship takes with Guts and the mage using it as their battle field (that seems like the kind of battle that could be very hard on the surroundings).

Post by **Fuji Nagase** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 3:42 am

I've been really ill, but i got up to read the chapter finally!

thanks everyone!