Has EG been around for 3 years?
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Starnum, you are correct, Mindwerks wasn't around three years ago, but I do believe that there was another forum where I started reading all of your discussions. It was a while ago so I may be wrong.
Anyways, I've been doing so more researching, especially on Skull Knight. Well, based upon the belief that Skull Knight is actually Emporer Gaiseric, I have become quite confussed on an issue of when (and if) Revelations is taking place in Beserk. Okay first, the whole point of Revelations is the coming of the antichrist and the messiah. The world is supposed to be in turmoil, until the antichrist unites the world and everyone worships the antichrist, causing the wrath of God and the coming of the Messiah. Well, so far one character has done thus so far. That would be Gaiseric. There are facts signifying that he was once the antichrist. In vol10 ch6 pg 120, the history of Midland is told, and the world was bent on war, famine, disease, so taht 1/3rd of mankind was killed, until Gaiseric came and ended the war. The antichrist is supposed to force the mark of the beast/apostle upon the people either on the hands or forehead. When the messiah comes he is supposed to punish those who with the mark and the kingdom of Babylon/antichrist will fall and their should be peace for a thousand years. Well, underneath the tower of rebirth (where Griffth was tortured) the dead heads all have the mark of the apostle on their foreheads. And the princess says the story is about a thousand years old. So, I'm rather confused on when Beserk is taking place in the events of Revelations.
Anyways, I've been doing so more researching, especially on Skull Knight. Well, based upon the belief that Skull Knight is actually Emporer Gaiseric, I have become quite confussed on an issue of when (and if) Revelations is taking place in Beserk. Okay first, the whole point of Revelations is the coming of the antichrist and the messiah. The world is supposed to be in turmoil, until the antichrist unites the world and everyone worships the antichrist, causing the wrath of God and the coming of the Messiah. Well, so far one character has done thus so far. That would be Gaiseric. There are facts signifying that he was once the antichrist. In vol10 ch6 pg 120, the history of Midland is told, and the world was bent on war, famine, disease, so taht 1/3rd of mankind was killed, until Gaiseric came and ended the war. The antichrist is supposed to force the mark of the beast/apostle upon the people either on the hands or forehead. When the messiah comes he is supposed to punish those who with the mark and the kingdom of Babylon/antichrist will fall and their should be peace for a thousand years. Well, underneath the tower of rebirth (where Griffth was tortured) the dead heads all have the mark of the apostle on their foreheads. And the princess says the story is about a thousand years old. So, I'm rather confused on when Beserk is taking place in the events of Revelations.
Mindwerks has been around since 01-JUN-01, check the whois record if you like.
A forum area for EG was created after the falling out with DP (DigitalPanic).
DP was created 02-nov-2003, and EG started off on DP just a bit after that.
Mindwerks, almost 5 years old.
Evil_Genius, is 3 years.
(give or take months)
So there ya go. A history lesson.
A forum area for EG was created after the falling out with DP (DigitalPanic).
DP was created 02-nov-2003, and EG started off on DP just a bit after that.
Mindwerks, almost 5 years old.
Evil_Genius, is 3 years.
(give or take months)
So there ya go. A history lesson.
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Sandman
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Lesson learned....
Ok theory time, While in the berserk armor schireke learns how to manifest her self in to the berserk armor which makes it take different shapes and emit light magic. while she does this the armor sucks up her astral form and she is stuck in there untill elfhalm.
Ok theory time, While in the berserk armor schireke learns how to manifest her self in to the berserk armor which makes it take different shapes and emit light magic. while she does this the armor sucks up her astral form and she is stuck in there untill elfhalm.
Thank you sir, may I have another
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dialdfordesi
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Well, you are probably getting confused because you think that Miura is following the Bible completely, and that may not be the case. There may be some aspects that he likes and therefore decides to borrow from them, but there is nothing to say that he is using the Bible entirely.Bluemoon wrote:Starnum, you are correct, Mindwerks wasn't around three years ago, but I do believe that there was another forum where I started reading all of your discussions. It was a while ago so I may be wrong.
Anyways, I've been doing so more researching, especially on Skull Knight. Well, based upon the belief that Skull Knight is actually Emporer Gaiseric, I have become quite confussed on an issue of when (and if) Revelations is taking place in Beserk. Okay first, the whole point of Revelations is the coming of the antichrist and the messiah. The world is supposed to be in turmoil, until the antichrist unites the world and everyone worships the antichrist, causing the wrath of God and the coming of the Messiah. Well, so far one character has done thus so far. That would be Gaiseric. There are facts signifying that he was once the antichrist. In vol10 ch6 pg 120, the history of Midland is told, and the world was bent on war, famine, disease, so taht 1/3rd of mankind was killed, until Gaiseric came and ended the war. The antichrist is supposed to force the mark of the beast/apostle upon the people either on the hands or forehead. When the messiah comes he is supposed to punish those who with the mark and the kingdom of Babylon/antichrist will fall and their should be peace for a thousand years. Well, underneath the tower of rebirth (where Griffth was tortured) the dead heads all have the mark of the apostle on their foreheads. And the princess says the story is about a thousand years old. So, I'm rather confused on when Beserk is taking place in the events of Revelations.
Trust me, I'm a doctor!
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Sandman
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Hey Bluemoon, here is some more biblical prophecy for you to submerge your self in 
http://www.ellisskolfield.com/downloadable-books.shtml
http://www.ellisskolfield.com/downloadable-books.shtmlThank you sir, may I have another
Interesting. Yeah, I know I've been a crew member for like two years or something.psi29a wrote:Mindwerks has been around since 01-JUN-01, check the whois record if you like.
A forum area for EG was created after the falling out with DP (DigitalPanic).
DP was created 02-nov-2003, and EG started off on DP just a bit after that.
Mindwerks, almost 5 years old.
Evil_Genius, is 3 years.
(give or take months)
So there ya go. A history lesson.
I wont lie, Im' a little tipsy from drinking a shit load of wine just now! WOOHOO!!! SPRING BREAK BITHCHES!!! Hehehehe, anyways I just felt like saying hello to everyone on the boards and to everyojne who loves Besrek!!!! Fukcing great shit right there! Anwyas I jsut wanted to say thankyou for everyone who responded to my messages, and I appreciate all your comments.
For dialdfordesi and everyone else who responeded to my comments with the thoughts that Miura isn't using the Book of Revelations to the exact word, has helped me relaize that your most likely correct. I'ves bens reveiwing Revelations and the events of the Beserk, and realized while Miura did use many themes and events of Revelations, he isn't going in order of the events. Example:
Rev 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.
"He will rule them with an iron sceptre."
He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in mid-air, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."
Personally, when ireaed this excerpt all i could think of was the sacrifice of the Band of the Hawk. The passage is describing the White Rider, yet it takes place in ch19 of 22 chapters in the book of Revelations. "He was dressed in a Robe dipped in Blood" reminded me of the picutres of Femto in Blood Red with blood dripping from him to the floor. "Angel standing in the sun" reminds me of Void as he is in front of the eclipsed sun before he allows the apostles to decimate the Band of the wahk. Yet, all of this takes place at the end of the book, so Miura must of just enjoyed the visuals of the book. If Miura was using Revelations to the exact word, then Guts would be the dragons (Satan), Griffith would be the messiah. Very confusiing. ANyways, I'm tipsy and going to pass out soon, but ill make sure to take a many shots for everyone and I want to show all of you one of my favorite passages of the Rev.
17:7 Then the angel said to me: "Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.
Rev 17:9 "This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
(Guts is the beast who survived the sacrifice from the abyss, One of the seven kings who "is" could be SK/Gaiseric, one of the other kings was Griffith who "remains for a little", and Guts who survived the Abyss is the 8th king who is heading to his destruction to kill a higher being out of wrath)
PS. Thx Sandman for the material! I really appreciate new resources!
Pps. Hey, did anyone know that Gabriel (Left Hand of God/Messenger of God/Archangel) fell from the grace of God once in his creation according to Jewish Legend. He didn't complete a task to perfection given by God, and was kicked out for a period of "21" days. He was replaced by an angel named "Dobiel", yet was able to be "regraced" and "Dobiel" was given a new mission/task. What was the task Gabriel failed to complete?
What did Gabriel do in his fall from grace? What is the significance and mission of Dobiel? Well, if you want to find out, buy my book!
It will be fukkcing Epic!!!
PPPS. I need to drink more.
For dialdfordesi and everyone else who responeded to my comments with the thoughts that Miura isn't using the Book of Revelations to the exact word, has helped me relaize that your most likely correct. I'ves bens reveiwing Revelations and the events of the Beserk, and realized while Miura did use many themes and events of Revelations, he isn't going in order of the events. Example:
Rev 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.
"He will rule them with an iron sceptre."
He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:
KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.
Rev 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in mid-air, "Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and mighty men, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, small and great."
Personally, when ireaed this excerpt all i could think of was the sacrifice of the Band of the Hawk. The passage is describing the White Rider, yet it takes place in ch19 of 22 chapters in the book of Revelations. "He was dressed in a Robe dipped in Blood" reminded me of the picutres of Femto in Blood Red with blood dripping from him to the floor. "Angel standing in the sun" reminds me of Void as he is in front of the eclipsed sun before he allows the apostles to decimate the Band of the wahk. Yet, all of this takes place at the end of the book, so Miura must of just enjoyed the visuals of the book. If Miura was using Revelations to the exact word, then Guts would be the dragons (Satan), Griffith would be the messiah. Very confusiing. ANyways, I'm tipsy and going to pass out soon, but ill make sure to take a many shots for everyone and I want to show all of you one of my favorite passages of the Rev.
17:7 Then the angel said to me: "Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns. 8 The beast, which you saw, once was, now is not, and will come up out of the Abyss and go to his destruction. The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because he once was, now is not, and yet will come.
Rev 17:9 "This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. 10 They are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, the other has not yet come; but when he does come, he must remain for a little while. 11 The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.
(Guts is the beast who survived the sacrifice from the abyss, One of the seven kings who "is" could be SK/Gaiseric, one of the other kings was Griffith who "remains for a little", and Guts who survived the Abyss is the 8th king who is heading to his destruction to kill a higher being out of wrath)
PS. Thx Sandman for the material! I really appreciate new resources!
Pps. Hey, did anyone know that Gabriel (Left Hand of God/Messenger of God/Archangel) fell from the grace of God once in his creation according to Jewish Legend. He didn't complete a task to perfection given by God, and was kicked out for a period of "21" days. He was replaced by an angel named "Dobiel", yet was able to be "regraced" and "Dobiel" was given a new mission/task. What was the task Gabriel failed to complete?
What did Gabriel do in his fall from grace? What is the significance and mission of Dobiel? Well, if you want to find out, buy my book!
It will be fukkcing Epic!!! PPPS. I need to drink more.
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Sandman
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Your Welcome, hey that sounds cool I hope you can make it avalible to us for freeBluemoon wrote: PS. Thx Sandman for the material! I really appreciate new resources!
Pps. Hey, did anyone know that Gabriel (Left Hand of God/Messenger of God/Archangel) fell from the grace of God once in his creation according to Jewish Legend. He didn't complete a task to perfection given by God, and was kicked out for a period of "21" days. He was replaced by an angel named "Dobiel", yet was able to be "regraced" and "Dobiel" was given a new mission/task. What was the task Gabriel failed to complete?
What did Gabriel do in his fall from grace? What is the significance and mission of Dobiel? Well, if you want to find out, buy my book!
PPPS. I need to drink more.
then we will distribute it for you JK (I would buy it if I could see some of your sources.)What do you know about the dead sea scrolls there bluemoon??
Threoy:
Guts dies due to wounds inflicted in this last battle, with his dieing words he charges Isidoro with his task. When Isidoro dons the berserker armor it becomes a mad gorilla, siyan style
Thank you sir, may I have another
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Now that the Shaman knows its going to be a little harder to kill Guts, Serpico will join Guts in the fray. Guts will move first getting the shaman to move to Serpico's vantage point and Bam off with that shaman's head
After Guts exits berserk mode he will pick up Schireke's body and her Astral form will flow back into her body. Now that Guts knows what she did to bring into conscience berserker state he can reinact it. Pretty soon he will be able to make the berserker Armour Shift into a sheild and also have his left arm load more than one cannon ball for multiple foes that need to be dispached fast .... maybe the last part is a little out there
After Guts exits berserk mode he will pick up Schireke's body and her Astral form will flow back into her body. Now that Guts knows what she did to bring into conscience berserker state he can reinact it. Pretty soon he will be able to make the berserker Armour Shift into a sheild and also have his left arm load more than one cannon ball for multiple foes that need to be dispached fast
.... maybe the last part is a little out thereThank you sir, may I have another
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That was one hell of a long hello. Besides, do you really post when you are tipsy? I guess I'm either never really at a computer or just don't think of it...Bluemoon wrote:I wont lie, Im' a little tipsy from drinking a shit load of wine just now! WOOHOO!!! SPRING BREAK BITHCHES!!! Hehehehe, anyways I just felt like saying hello to everyone on the boards and to everyojne who loves Besrek!!!! ...
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Ganishka (anyone remembers the correct spelling?) seems to be just an extremely powerful apostle who has amassed even more incredible amounts of mundane power (i. e. taking control and expanding the Kushan Empire). As such, it´s not surprising that he doesn´t want to give himself up to Griffith who, though a member of the God´s Hand (God´s Finger?), is just a newcomer.