Trolling and Flamez is teh illegal

Post by **Eldo** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:34 am

Heh...creds to Silentreaper for telling me about this.

Oh noooooooo!

Someone flamed n00b Bush a wee too much.

edit: fixed uber longurl... --psi29a

Post by **LordMune** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 3:39 pm

Create an e-annoyance, go to jail

Fucking e-thugs.

EDIT: e-cops

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:02 pm

Lame instead of taking care of real problems,they waste time with this.

Post by **Loeviz** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:06 pm

Yeah it really makes you laugh a little that they even bother when there are better things to come around to

Post by **Wandering_Mystic** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:26 pm

All of you annoy me! Off to the dungeons with you!

At first I was kind of worried about this law and what it spells for American civil liberties. Actually it still bothers me, but I have a bit of hope that should such a ridiculous case ever come to the courts, a reasonable interpretation will be made and a precedence set (even so the law would still bother me in what I see as an unnecessary restriction; if someone is seriously harassed, there are already normal laws that deal with that, internet or not). I didn't get to confirm the exact wording yet, but if it really is as vague as it seems (i.e. using the term "annoy"), the law should be illegal, because it annoys me and I read about it on the internet. ;-p

Post by **Killfile** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 4:54 pm

In many cases - and this is one of them - a legislative solution to a social problem is inappropriate.

Every on-line community has an internal method of dealing with "annoying" posters - either technological or social itself.

On Slashdot, annoying posts are modded down - becoming less visible as the moderation process dictates. On boards like this one, where there is no moderation, annoying posts just result in flame fests - which are entertaining themselves, thus mitigating the annoyance of the origional annoying post.

The real issue here boils down to blogs. For months my blog (shameless plug) had a problem with blog spammers. My comment system and rules got added to a script that posted ads for gambeling sites and perscription drug sites. These ads were intended to capitalize on my page-rank to drive up the page-rank of the linked sites. Googlebombing, in other words.

I put in filters at first to prevent these posts - but eventually decided to implement a catchpa system to prevent blog spammers. That system worked really well, and I haven't had an automated spammer since.

Unfortunately, this solution doesn't scale well. Small-time writers, like blogers, conribute a great deal to the overall culture of the internet, but don't have the technical means or social means to stop annoying posters themselves.

Google has implemented the "link no follow" protocol, which provides a decent solution to this problem - but still doesn't solve it completely. Congress is trying to step in and propose a legislative solution - but it will ultimately fail for the same reasons CAN SPAM will: the internet isn't confined to the United Staes.

Personally, I'm inclined to let technology and social dynamics take up the slack here. Just because there's not a good solution now, doesn't mean there will never be one. I'd rather the Congress leave the internet alone and let it take care of itself - especially with reguard to censorship.

The digital realm has far out paced the legislative. There is no restrictive law that Congress can pass with reguard to the internet that will avoid doing more harm than good. Once our legislators realize that, we'll all be better off.

Post by **arke** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 5:30 pm

Killfile wrote:I put in filters at first to prevent these posts - but eventually decided to implement a catchpa system to prevent blog spammers. That system worked really well, and I haven't had an automated spammer since.

I read that making sure the referral URL is the one used for posting comments will eliminate most comment spam.

For the law, while I think it's stupid, I highly doubt it'll be used a lot (at least I really hope, I've insulted plenty of people online). Even if it is, there simply won't be enough resources to deal with it. Our prisons are crowded enough, we don't need to exacerbate the problem with this.

Post by **Eldo** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:15 pm

As long as the flaming is not anonymous, it's not against the law. I think they should direct their attention (if they absolutely have to invade the intraweb domain with their fucked up laws) is to have a crack down on spam. Why e-annoyance is selected as a particular topic for teh ban is beyond me. Maybe someone flamed Bush a bit too hard.

The only person affected here in the forums is Femto. Remember, if he flames you, call the cops on him. That's the American way.

Post by **Femto** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:19 pm

Hey Eldo, fuck you!

...

I just flamed you anonymously because you do not know my full name.

That means I should go to jail, but since I'm anonymous, nobody knows who I am so I don't know how you'll be able to press charges.

I make and break the system, baby.

Post by **Eldo** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:22 pm

Hey CIA mod guys! I know Femto's IP!

Femto's IP: 127.0.0.1

hax0rz him, trace his address, and send cops or military warheads so the infidel doesn't get away with this heinous crime. Such a disgrace to the country of America and the American way.

Post by **Femto** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:32 pm

Hahahahaha.

When I was in high school many years ago and we were messing with nuke programs in our computer classes, someone told this retard classmate to nuke 127.0.0.1.

Guess what happened?

That self-nuke is the stuff of legends now.

Post by **Killfile** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:35 pm

Femto's real name: Porter J. Goss - lives in Rapidan VA

I hear he works over near Potomac School next to Vienna VA

Post by **Eldo** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:46 pm

You're fucked now, Femto you hax. The CIA will nuke your IP and render all the machines useless.

Post by **Femto** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:00 pm

Killfile is e-harrasing me.

This will not go unpunished.

...

Unpunished is not the word I was looking for really.

My apologies.

Post by **Eldo** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:03 pm

Femto wrote:Killfile is e-harrasing me.

This will not go unpunished.

...

Unpunished is not the word I was looking for really.

My apologies.

Ha! Backing down now because you got heat on your tail?

Even if the CIA doesn't nuke your IP, I'll do it myself! bwahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahhahaha bwahahahahahah bwahahaha *cough*

Post by **Femto** » Wed Jan 11, 2006 10:07 pm

Eldo wrote:bwahahahahahahahahahhahahahhahahahhahaha bwahahahahahah bwahahaha *cough*

That was me choking the shit out of Eldo.

Don't mess with me.

Post by **Wandering_Mystic** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:04 am

Well, as long as you're choking him in real life, and not e-annoying him, I guess it's cool beans with me. Anyone who e-annoys just crosses the line in my book, that's what my paps always used to say

Post by **carebare** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:36 pm

HA!! Here's spam AND a double posting. I just dare you to come get me!!

HARHARHAR!

Edit By Killfile:
Remember how I said there were better solutions to this kind of crap than legislation? Here's one of them. Carebare - I've removed your wholly irrelevant first post. Pull that kind of crap again (in jest or otherwise - it's damn annoying and you know it) and I'll delete more than your post.

Post by **Femto** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:41 pm

How unfunny.

Someone come here and delete those posts.

Post by **carebare** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:24 pm

Edit By Killfile:
Remember how I said there were better solutions to this kind of crap than legislation? Here's one of them. Carebare - I've removed your wholly irrelevant first post. Pull that kind of crap again (in jest or otherwise - it's damn annoying and you know it) and I'll delete more than your post.[/quote]

Yeah, but that was the point. I was wholly trying to be annoying in rebellion to the CIA, and it looks like I did it too well. So it wasn't irrelevent when you read the post that followed it!!! Jeesh, you guys are absolutely ruthless to newbies, getting all threatening and junk. And calling my poor emoticon "crap," then killing him...

EDIT: You know, I've been lurking for awhile, and have seen enough to say that you did this in bias against newbies (suprise suprise). It was actually quite funny in the context of this thread, just read the fucking thread. And now my damn post don't make much sense. My emoticon is back and he is now pissed

but will prolly get over it.

Post by **Femto** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:35 pm

Double posting and spam is against the forum rules.

That's all there is to it.

Post by **carebare** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:46 pm

Femto wrote:Double posting and spam is against the forum rules.

That's all there is to it.

Yeah but I've seen it many a times. It usually provides fodder for further discussion. Besides, wasn't this thread about bucking the damn rules? You sound like a hypocrite, Femto.

Femto wrote:
I make and break the system, baby.

EDIT: you all spam all the time when it's in context. Here is a specific example of recent blatant spamming:
http://www.evil-genius.us/forums/viewto ... 8e3039f683

Post by **Femto** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 7:51 pm

Ahahahahahaha.

I thought you were alright when I saw your first posts.

It's funny how quickly first impressions can change.

Have fun in the forums.

Post by **carebare** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:00 pm

Yeah, I was really hoping we'd get along, Femto, as I usually sided with you in the retarded squabbles you were involved in, and you seem to be key to MANY. You sound like a real asshole, and I usually dig that. They always make work, class, or life more interesting.

My spam post WAS FUNNY as HELL. So fuck you very much

Post by **Femto** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:05 pm

Evil Genius

Trolling and Flamez is teh illegal

Trolling and Flamez is teh illegal

I have not read this thread or the article.

Re: I have not read this thread or the article.

Re: I have not read this thread or the article.