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Femto wrote:Seven Samurai contains pretty much every anime stereotype ever made, except for maybe female characters.
That doesn't mean each and every one of these characters are the same though.
Admittedly, they aren't. But most of them come from previously established archetypes.. But I admit that anything, even the most original character ever made, can be diluted to it's archetype.
So, this is pointless
Everything that is right is wrong, and everything that is wrong is right.
And I am always right.
Oh sure, all artists have inspirations. You can see my inspirations in Ksi. Such things as Berserk, X, Kenshin, and even DBZ. Those are only the first things coming to mind too.
I admit that most authors are inspired by at least minor things in what they like, and incorporate some aspects of it into their work, but I think it's a little much to declare that it's all just the same elements. Just as some parts are inspired by other things, other parts are totally original (and then become things to possibly inspire artists of the future).
Femto wrote:I say probably because Mune is really fighting to get that title over at Gaming.
I lost a good 15 minutes of my life reading that thread and an additional 10 minutes waiting for the thread to load up on 56k. I hope I could be somehow compensated for wasted time from reading that crap. I blame and curse my curiosity.
I don't think half the toilet seats in the world are as clean as I should like; and only half of those are half as clean as they deserve. - tsubaimomo, July 26, 2010 3:00 am
This may come as a shocker to some people, but nothing is really original. We all get our images and inspirations from seeing, hearing, and reading things.
How would you draw grass if you never saw it or had it described to you?
Then if someone drew grass that had seen grass, would you say it was something original?
Chances are he copied a lot of shit from a lot of places, consciously or unconsciously.
To say the idea didn't come from a certain source doesn't mean it really didn't, because your subconscious inspiration may be drawing from that memory.
I've written and drawn things before that with no intention or thoughts of copying anything, ended up bearing a striking resemblance to some things I've seen or read a long time ago.
Unless you're the first person in the world to get your arm trapped in something and forcefully cut it off to escape, then you my friend are unoriginal.
It’s the combination of unoriginal ideas into an original sequence is what makes the stories unique, new, and fresh.
Berserk was always a winner by combination of great (not necessarily original) ideas, great artwork, great characters, and above all the attention to detail. Originality was always a side factor.
When Miura started he may have been the first with a huge sword and a cannon arm, but at least for me, when I read it first, it wasn't anything superbly original.
Also the stories are taken from here and there, and really who cares? There are no 100% original stories left, it's all been written before.
There is one exception, and that I believe to the eclipse. I don't think I've ever read or seen anything quite like it, at least in its extremity it is quite unique I believe.
So Shisho is right, the combination and execution is all that matters.
Are you going to start posting more often now or what?
Yeah Shisho, you're becoming a man of mystery, always popping up and leaving without a trace.
I don't think half the toilet seats in the world are as clean as I should like; and only half of those are half as clean as they deserve. - tsubaimomo, July 26, 2010 3:00 am
Zman1 wrote:Well I sort of agree with shizo but what about the inventor of the glass how did he/she think of the design of it?
he/she probably found some either in a volcanic tract or some created by the metal smelting process... then found a way to reproduce glass in a more controlled process.... either that or my guesses just suck