But I think that Cagalli is gonna get such a whoping now from Shinn
Gundam Seed Destiny Episodes by A-Kingdom_AonE (and others)
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Psi29a wrote
But it´s to bad that Athrun is to wounded to do anything at the moment, they better give him some tranquilizer´s so he doesn't feel the pain so he can get down to business and settle the Score with Shinn (With the help off Kira of course) when Shinn has had his way with Cagalli.
Yeah Kira will go on a real crusadePerhaps, I'm thinking that within next EP or the one after, Kira will come down and pwn everyone... like pretty hard.
But it´s to bad that Athrun is to wounded to do anything at the moment, they better give him some tranquilizer´s so he doesn't feel the pain so he can get down to business and settle the Score with Shinn (With the help off Kira of course) when Shinn has had his way with Cagalli.
\"No Sane man will dance.\"
-- Marcus Tullius Cicero (106-43 BC)
Is it for definite that they're going to end at 50 episodes? Because the way I see it, the story's only in the later parts of the 3rd quarter to me.
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Really it has nothing to do with Cosmic or Universal. It has to do with shitty plot development and character usage. Wheter this was U.C. or C.E. this show has failed on many levels.Nazgûl wrote:Man this Cosmic Era World suck ass,they should just go back to Universal Century and do some more series on that.
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I seriously hope you're joking. If not I've just lost a ton of respect for you. In which way is this better?? the plotholes in this are just rediculous. oo and btw its episode 42 and we still don't know Gil's plan, who actually dropped the colony on earth, how Gil seemed to know everything about logos, what exactly Rey is, who Neo actually is ( I refuse to acknowledge him if they dont' develope it), If kira is in fact a Newtype, how all these people survive explosions (especially Sting).dos.azn wrote:man what you talkin about, destiny is so much better than seed.
and how bout that new episode eh? ACTION PACKED!!!
I could continue if you want.
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Rey=Clone of masked man, that's my guess at least.
Bah, this is rather a small scale battle then a seeds full scale war in the end.
The Lacsus faction forces drop in was cool if you ignore there special combo attack
Why do i think that the ship battle will end almost the same as last time, was it a winning concept so they have to redo it?
Last thoughts, more combat less fluff plz, since they are down on earth do i not think any nukes will drop
Bah, this is rather a small scale battle then a seeds full scale war in the end.
The Lacsus faction forces drop in was cool if you ignore there special combo attack
Why do i think that the ship battle will end almost the same as last time, was it a winning concept so they have to redo it?
Last thoughts, more combat less fluff plz, since they are down on earth do i not think any nukes will drop
trust in seed man. in due time you'll get all ur answers. remember how late we found out in seed of how kira is even exceptional for a coordinator? they answer it all in the end. im not a good explainer but if you want, ask psi about it cuz he knows it all.Grahf wrote:I seriously hope you're joking. If not I've just lost a ton of respect for you. In which way is this better?? the plotholes in this are just rediculous. oo and btw its episode 42 and we still don't know Gil's plan, who actually dropped the colony on earth, how Gil seemed to know everything about logos, what exactly Rey is, who Neo actually is ( I refuse to acknowledge him if they dont' develope it), If kira is in fact a Newtype, how all these people survive explosions (especially Sting).dos.azn wrote:man what you talkin about, destiny is so much better than seed.
and how bout that new episode eh? ACTION PACKED!!!
I could continue if you want.
this is better because the story has much more transition. in seed, it took them more than half the series to get to homebase. 30 episodes we see the same gundams fight each other over and over. in destiny, it was cool of how the main character shinn was good in the beginning and thr the series he grows to be the bad guy and the one everyone hates. u have to admit, it moves faster.
I think it is nice that they don't wrap up every single little detail. That is what fuels discussion and conjecture. It could very well be the people in charge could be lazy. It is assumed that the dropped colony was purpetrated by rebels. However, due to clues dropped in from time to time, that the whole thing (including Logos, Phantom Pain aka Neo, etc) was cleveraly manipulated by Gil for his own ambition. Rey is extremly loyal to Gil, that suggests a paternal relationship between the two. While Phantom Pain talked freely with Gil, they seemed like they knew each other from way back.
Again, I liked watching Destiny. Yes there are things that are under-developed, there are relationships that are not fully explored. However, I don't need everything spelled out for me, it detracts from the main plot which is very thin, and involves Shinn/Kira/Athrun fighting their own war of ideals.
There are however, there is one draw-back that I find distasteful, and that would be the opening theme. Yuk!
Again, I liked watching Destiny. Yes there are things that are under-developed, there are relationships that are not fully explored. However, I don't need everything spelled out for me, it detracts from the main plot which is very thin, and involves Shinn/Kira/Athrun fighting their own war of ideals.
There are however, there is one draw-back that I find distasteful, and that would be the opening theme. Yuk!
I was trying to say that they should just go back to the Zeon vs Federation storyline which is the original and more interesting to watch,Or they should start something new,the whole new-type/coordinator(sp?) vs the normal human story has gotten very old now,and god every time a new gundam series copies it (like GS and GSD) ,it rapes it to hell.Grahf wrote:Really it has nothing to do with Cosmic or Universal. It has to do with shitty plot development and character usage. Wheter this was U.C. or C.E. this show has failed on many levels.Nazgûl wrote:Man this Cosmic Era World suck ass,they should just go back to Universal Century and do some more series on that.
Well as for Dos's thing about finding out about kira late. That might be true but if I'm not mistaken we got that around now. They didn't waste our time with a recap episode in the 40s now did they? You say trust in seed? but you say that GSD is better than Seed? how so? GSD is loaded with plot holes that really can't be finished up in 8 episodes. Especially if I know what going to happen up until episode 46. The ending will be rushed just like in Seed except this one is even worse.
@PSI well I'm not even going to touch on how horrible this intro music is neither. As for the colony drop I assume back a few months ago that it was all Gil. I have a whole conspiracy thread on other boards. But its something major that needs to be brought to light. OK you could push off Kira surviving explosions and maybe Sting. But for the fucking mercy of Christ why do we still have to wait for a back story on Neo/Mwu? why? They gave use a useless recap of Athrun only to have him still have hesitations in this past episodes. Its poor structure.
edit: another thing is Kira a Newtype or is he just "force sensitive"?
I'm not even going to talk about the fight between Destiny and S-F itself. That in itself wasn't done well.
@Nazgul: Yes U.C. might be more interesting but again I say if they use these writers........... They would fuck it up just as badly as they are doing this one.
@PSI well I'm not even going to touch on how horrible this intro music is neither. As for the colony drop I assume back a few months ago that it was all Gil. I have a whole conspiracy thread on other boards. But its something major that needs to be brought to light. OK you could push off Kira surviving explosions and maybe Sting. But for the fucking mercy of Christ why do we still have to wait for a back story on Neo/Mwu? why? They gave use a useless recap of Athrun only to have him still have hesitations in this past episodes. Its poor structure.
edit: another thing is Kira a Newtype or is he just "force sensitive"?
I'm not even going to talk about the fight between Destiny and S-F itself. That in itself wasn't done well.
@Nazgul: Yes U.C. might be more interesting but again I say if they use these writers........... They would fuck it up just as badly as they are doing this one.
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*ahem* it is psi29a, not PSI. It isn't an acronym.
I agree that the explosions and subsequent survival of athrun and kira is far-fetched. You are right, there is a lot of missing pieces, but nothing that can't be developed later. That holds true for any anime, look at the holes in Berserk anime vs. the manga. I find that it is moot to argue about it. I'll continue to enjoy it, even with its short comings. It certainly isn't the worst of the Gundam series and I view it as a continuation of GS and nothing else.
I agree that the explosions and subsequent survival of athrun and kira is far-fetched. You are right, there is a lot of missing pieces, but nothing that can't be developed later. That holds true for any anime, look at the holes in Berserk anime vs. the manga. I find that it is moot to argue about it. I'll continue to enjoy it, even with its short comings. It certainly isn't the worst of the Gundam series and I view it as a continuation of GS and nothing else.
its not an acronym?? could have sworn it was pressure square inch 29 absolute 
Yeah it could be developed later but the likely hood of it being done right is least likely with every passing episode. It might not be the worst Gundam but it surely is down there in the basement as far as I'm concerned.
Yeah it could be developed later but the likely hood of it being done right is least likely with every passing episode. It might not be the worst Gundam but it surely is down there in the basement as far as I'm concerned.
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comp sci major man, 29a is a hex value. and since ASCII can't handle the Greek letter for psi, I had to make due back in the day of BBS (circa 1980s).Grahf wrote:its not an acronym?? could have sworn it was pressure square inch 29 absolute
Yeah it could be developed later but the likely hood of it being done right is least likely with every passing episode. It might not be the worst Gundam but it surely is down there in the basement as far as I'm concerned.
As for Gundam series as a whole, I have to rank 0078, Zeta, Char's CA at the top. GS and GSD are are good, in so much that the are recent. However, as time moves on, the pretty animation looses it's value and GS/GSD get relegated in between Gundam ZZ and Gundam-X in terms of plot (or plot hole). Gundam A has a stunningly good plot, but suffered from horrible mecha design. Yoko Kano's music is pretty good in that as well (I own the soundtrack). GSD music overall has been catchy and good, but he most recent one... it felt like I was struck with a brick across the head and that my ears had a incredibly annoying ring 'em. Not the case, it was the music if you can call it that.
We still have no idea where they are going to take the series, it could all be over after this conflict, or it could draw out into another season. I personally consider this season 2 of GS and not stand-alone, so it would be logical to have a season 3.
Yoko Kanno ownz period. The GITS:SAC ost was great. The second one was ok.
yeah well I've yet to finish Gundam X so I'm not going to reach a verdict on it yet. I tried to start Turn a gundam but 2 episodes later I had enough.
I'll try them all out soon enough I assume but "eye candy" isn't all there is to an anime. But pretty much all GSD has been is Eye candy with only a tease of Plot.
Edit: Maybe I wouldn't complain if they just stop teasing me with Neo/Mwu.
also is Gil actually evil?? I don't think his goal is evil just that his methods are a bit unsound. If in fact he was behind the colony drop then he is in fact evil. But if he is looking to rule the world and cancel out all opposition whats so evil about that?
yeah well I've yet to finish Gundam X so I'm not going to reach a verdict on it yet. I tried to start Turn a gundam but 2 episodes later I had enough.
I'll try them all out soon enough I assume but "eye candy" isn't all there is to an anime. But pretty much all GSD has been is Eye candy with only a tease of Plot.Edit: Maybe I wouldn't complain if they just stop teasing me with Neo/Mwu.
also is Gil actually evil?? I don't think his goal is evil just that his methods are a bit unsound. If in fact he was behind the colony drop then he is in fact evil. But if he is looking to rule the world and cancel out all opposition whats so evil about that?
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ok for someone claiming that Shinn is supose to be main char, that is realy wrong and he will soon die...
As for Neo thing, Mwu + afew more scars, same oneliners and so on do it realy nead more proofs?
And how did Gil know about logos? maybe he was one of them, thinking that he could take the chanse to break away and have all the cookie.
Gil, Rey and masked man have connection in ambition so i would not be suprised if Gil is building the doomsday device someplace and haveing Rey press the button
As for Neo thing, Mwu + afew more scars, same oneliners and so on do it realy nead more proofs?
And how did Gil know about logos? maybe he was one of them, thinking that he could take the chanse to break away and have all the cookie.
Gil, Rey and masked man have connection in ambition so i would not be suprised if Gil is building the doomsday device someplace and haveing Rey press the button