Newbie Berserk Discussion Thread

Post by **evilester_me** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 4:45 am

Well Guts is deteriorating, and not just scars. His appearance doesnt look as menacing anymore

Post by **RedEyes** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:16 am

LOL, interesting... I'm sure just before they die, his opponents find him as menacing as ever.

Let me add some stuff about Skull Knight -besides the things said before me... Skull Knight is not an apostle as God Hands do not have control over him. Slan greets him as "your majesty" in the troll cave, strengthening SK-Gaiseric theories.

There, Slan also mentions that the appearance of the 5th Godhand started the merging of the two worlds. IMO, this also puts an end to the "who knows, Griffith might be a just king, people might prosper" kind of theories.

Post by **MrFelony** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:02 am

actually him being an apostle isnt ruled out. apostles are told to do whatever they want and as we see with the kushan emperor, he chooses to fight against griffith...though i dont htink him being an apostle is very like at all.

Post by **Skullkracker** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 8:50 am

No, I think the Kushans are simply a bunch of demonizerz

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:26 am

ROWR!!! Kushan Demonizerz

Post by **MrFelony** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:10 am

no the kushan emporer is an apostle. he is one who is defying the rule of griffith. they are demonizers as well. the bakra or w/e they are called are an attempt for him to create an apostle like army i thought.

Post by **ucrzymofo87** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 2:29 pm

After he fought Roshinu, Guts did say that nothing on earth could change him, no matter who chases him. If he has the will, which so far he has, he probably will remain a human and not change into something like SK.

Post by **MrFelony** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:44 pm

ya i think he has the strength to remain human as long as possible. but if it will take hundreds of years...or even just another ten, it is physically impossible for his body to withstand the strain, as we can see now, his body is suffering pretty harshly

Post by **Khelegond** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:25 pm

Actually, I think he'll rest and be cured of all body and spirit illness in the land of the Elven King. Didn't they get fully restored when they're in the Flora's Magic Tree? I think it'll be the same...

And Gatts is no more human. He isn't another thing yet, but he isn't human anymore...

Cheers,

Khelegond

Post by **ucrzymofo87** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 5:50 pm

it would be nice if guts and caska were healed at elfhelm. that would be something if the elf king could revive guts' right eye and left arm.

Post by **MrFelony** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:03 pm

no i believe he is a human who just happens to now exist inbetween realms people should never exist in, he just has such a strong will and determination that has allowed himself to last this long. if you remember, he has also beat himself up so much that his bone structure must be really strong, going off of "a broken bone heals itself stronger where it was broken" idea...he has had a LOT of broken and fractured bones

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Post by **TheDrizzit** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:08 am

I wonder if his fighting would be a lot different with his right eye back? I say keep the left arm though because he can block swords with it and things can't bite through it. Also it's a freakin' cannon! Why lose that? It's like a super power or something...

EDIT: Also, I bet $5 that he won't let Casca get healed just because of what Skull Knight said...bastard...I mean, why else would he have said that unless Muira's not going to let her get healed. But then again I could (and hopefully am) wrong because if Casca got brought back then it would kick a lot of ass.

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:34 am

I don't think Guts would allow her to stay in the condition that she's in, but I do believe that Casca is going to side with Griffith.

Post by **MrFelony** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:09 am

oh yay someone who agrees with me on that possibility

. though i actually think she might just go off on her own as well but it all depends on what she remembers...oh and he might have said that to fortell her leaving guts for griffith or doing something that helps trigger guts into releasing his demon hound.

Post by **Necromancer** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:18 am

DarkenRahlX wrote:ROWR!!! Kushan Demonizerz

Btw. did you notice how all the kushan "demons" have the same teeth formation?

Post by **ucrzymofo87** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:20 pm

odds are caska will side with griffith

Post by **Buzkashi** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:05 pm

Necromancer wrote: Btw. did you notice how all the kushan "demons" have the same teeth formation?

Yea they need braces. How the hell are they supposed to chew.

Post by **MrFelony** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 6:58 pm

no it lifts and seperates much like a push up bra

Post by **RedEyes** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:30 pm

it seems that a significant amount of Kushan treasury is for dental expenses... heh

if she remembers everything then I don't think Casca would side with Griffith. But - as people pointed out - she might decide to leave Guts too, which would be an interesting change in the story...

Post by **Libaax** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:04 pm

I would feel for Guts if she left him but i woulnd miss her. She keeps him away from his goal. Without her he can finaly go after Griffith.

Who knows maybe Griffith controlls Casca to keep her the way she is now.so Guts can focus on her and not on killing Griffith

Post by **Necromancer** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:47 am

Casca is one reason why he wants to kill Griffith. I don't think he would continue it this easily when Casca leaves him.

Post by **MrFelony** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 2:59 am

he would if casca left him to rejoin griffith

. but i think it would cause him to go crazy and in his hurt he might end up sacrificing her

. or in his pain and original reason for all his loss he would refocus on griffith...

Post by **Loeviz** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:40 am

I also think that Casca is going to side with Griffith, mostly cause she still feels the connection with her´s and Gut´s deformed infant that was used when Griffith was reborn.
But this might also cause her to jump in between when Gut´s and Griffith fight´s to save Griffith, and thus Gut´s kill´s her..

Post by **TheDrizzit** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:35 pm

I can see that...then Griffith would throw in some quick comment about Guts killing her and then I think Guts would give in to the demon inside him and...well not kill but hurt Griffith...if ya kill him then its over and I want it to keep going.

Post by **MrFelony** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 12:02 am

guts is no where near close enough to take on griffith...his followers but not griffith. and that topic is basically a vs thread and we've all read the FAQ right