About Griffith...

Post by **dos.azn** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:32 pm

MrFelony wrote:uh oh dont let the newbs here you, a good number of them are pro-griffith

lol what can they do, we veterans can flame em like crazy and they will go in a corner and cry and then get analed by a fat man with a beard

Post by **Ayanami** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:15 pm

dos.azn wrote:lol what can they do, we veterans can flame em like crazy and they will go in a corner and cry and then get analed by a fat man with a beard

Nice.

+1

Post by **Sandman** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:46 pm

Which would you cheer for the Guy who is going to win or the guy that is going to fight like hell to stop him from winning at all costs?

I am cheering for the Guy that will fight like hell to stop the other Guy from winning, or at least jump him while he receives his blue ribbon

.

(For those who don't get what I mean Griffith = Guy who is going to win
Guts = Guy who will fight like Hell.)

Post by **MrFelony** » Mon Jun 06, 2005 11:23 pm

actually its the other way around

. griffith may try all he likes, but guts will eventually destroy his dreams of being king once and for all.

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:03 am

I'm reading Berserk from the beginning again and every time i see Griffith i feel almost sick cause of his gay looks and what he is and has done.

Then i start feeling better cause i remember that one beautiful day Guts will slice him in two bits

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:16 am

Hmm I'm not going to lie. Griffith will 0wn Guts in a fight at the moment, but Guts isn't some damn yaoi pretty boy and that's why I like him.

Post by **Arresty** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:49 am

Apparently all my n00b supporters have ran and hid. I like griffith, the man is a great tactition, and that is what I like about him, and he will eventually become good and save the world from teh darkness it is in, and Guts will then kill him sending the world into a even darker time. Guts thus being the bad guy and Griffith the good.

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:28 am

Haha:P

You sound like one of those fools who think Griffith is an angel or something you know the white hawk

I will laugh in those fools faces when they see the real Griffith:)

Post by **Buzkashi** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:48 am

Libaax wrote:Haha:P

You sound like one of those fools who think Griffith is an angel or something you know the white hawk

I will laugh in those fools faces when they see the real Griffith:)

your gona laugh at the faces of imaginary people from a manga on your computer............COUNT ME IN!!!

Post by **Arresty** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:39 am

Griffith is the white hawk damnt. I know he is.

Post by **MrFelony** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:21 am

ya why does griffith have to be the black hawk, why does black alway s have to represent evil you racists

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:24 am

I'm gonna tell you the truth. If I were Guts I wouldn't touch Griffith even if I had that berserker armor on.

Post by **Ayanami** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:30 am

DarkenRahlX wrote:I'm gonna tell you the truth. If I were Guts I wouldn't touch Griffith even if I had that berserker armor on.

That is what makes Guts so hardcore. He understands that the odds are against him, but he is going to try and kill Griffith with a 110% next time he runs into him.

Post by **MrFelony** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:34 am

no if you were guts you would try, if you were in his position you woudnt

sorry just felt like being annoying

Post by **Concealed_Rage** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:59 am

I think Griffith is the light hawk and the dark hawk, to be more accurate Femto is the dark hawk. Griffith will unite the land and become the king of midland, than femto will rise again and send his demons into the world, there new world. Do you actually think the leader of the demonic god hands will want a world were humans can live peacefully without fear or war. also i remember skull knight saying some thing about the god hands coming into there world, and if they do you can bet that there will be hell on earth, since they only seem to lust for is power,death, and carnage.

p.s. always thought Griffith was an arrogant sob, and was rooting for guts to kick his ass in there first and second fights

Post by **Skullkracker** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:02 am

Arresty wrote:he will eventually become good and save the world from teh darkness it is in, and Guts will then kill him sending the world into a even darker time. Guts thus being the bad guy and Griffith the good.

I HAD to return to this point.
I don't think he will ever be (or ever was for that matter) good. In Griffith's rational way of thinking there is only one category: what's good for HIM. His dream made him oppress his conscience and emotions, which popped up only a few times:
- seeing the dead knightwannabe kid
- after Guts leaving him (after almost parting his right side from his left)
- during the eclipse, when he hesitated to make the sacrafice
This was the point, when he put these categories (feelings) behind him for good. And as for fighting the darkness (c'mon he's a God Hand after all), he's just sweeping the shit out of the kingdom he wants (and has been fighting for so long).

Ever thought about this: having the crimson behelit meant being destined to rule the world. He DOES rule that outer dimension the eclipse brought upon the Earth (

forgot the name). Now, he is dominating the real world! What do you suppose he would do after conquering Midland?
EXPAND...

Guts I think will not simply want to kill Griffith, but make fulfilling his dream absolutely impossible.
And yes:

people will probably see Guts as the destroyer of their highest hopes...

Post by **MrFelony** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 8:32 am

well by killing him (for good) would make his dream impossible. maybe even just killing his physical plane body.

Post by **Skullkracker** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:57 am

That's a fact!

But seriously: knowing Guts, he would probably not be so hasty. Dueing the Eclipse Griffith was to annihilate him every way possible. Surely Guts is grateful enough to return the favour. I don't know how, though...

Post by **Necromancer** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:09 pm

I think Guts still struggles with the question why Griffith did this all and wants to get all his old friends, Caska and the old Griffith back.
And it'll not be that easy to kill Griffith right now, last time they met Guts got down by the pure existence of Griffith.

Post by **Lel** » Tue Jun 07, 2005 11:16 pm

I think...

...that Griffith isn't evil. I don't think he's good either, he's beyond good and evil. He'd massacre thousands and rape his closest friends, but he'd also save many lives and spread hope everywhere. Why? It doesn't matter if he does good or bad, it only matters if it helps him accomplish his goal.

He won't hesitate to kill a man nor save his life, as long as it helps him achieve his dream.

Post by **Ayanami** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 9:39 am

Lel wrote:I think...

...that Griffith isn't evil. I don't think he's good either, he's beyond good and evil. He'd massacre thousands and rape his closest friends, but he'd also save many lives and spread hope everywhere. Why? It doesn't matter if he does good or bad, it only matters if it helps him accomplish his goal.

He won't hesitate to kill a man nor save his life, as long as it helps him achieve his dream.

You see, all Griffith thinks about is his god damn self and his god damn dream. That is what makes him an evil ass hole.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 10:00 am

Wake up you Griffith lovers Griffith isnt the white hawk Guts is since he is gonna save the world from the evil known as Griffith/Femto.

Mrfelony:

It allways annoys me when black is the color of evil when in truth the white color should be the color of evil, i mean who killed the native indians of america,the indiands of latin and south america,who had slaves,who killed 6 million judes...... not the blacks for sure.

Post by **Skullkracker** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 11:53 am

Truth told!

Anyway: the choice of colour is based on the day-night analoge in my opinion, and fear of dark. Although in eastern culture white is the colour
of grief.
But black or white: wickedness has no colour...

Take Hellboy (red) for example, he overcame his demonic nature.

Anyhow, I would even esitate to consider Guts good...it's only a matter of perspective.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 12:03 pm

Haha i geuss you think Griffith is good

In western culture i would geuss that black is the color of evil cause its the white man's world .

Post by **Skullkracker** » Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:53 pm

Libaax wrote:Haha i geuss you think Griffith is good

In western culture i would geuss that black is the color of evil cause its the white man's world .

This is starting to smell like reverse discrimination, but you just might be right. People are strange...history is even stranger...
Well I WOULD start panting about darkness being mysterious and frightening and instinctive fear and all that stuff, but I agree, white man not always nice...

Anyway I think I said before that I don't find Griffith good. The only thing admirable is the way he holds on to something he wants to achieve, and overcomes everything in his path...nearly everything.
The only thing he teaches us is never to give up...you may even kick ass after doing time for a year in innhumane torture.