Chapter 255

Post by **Starnum** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:35 am

Well, sadly enough, it is the ending with both Gatts and Griffith dead, which seems the most appropriate. It began with Gatts’ birth, and might end with his death. Then mostly everyone else would live on in what would hopefully be a world less controlled by Idea. If that is the ending we receive, I’ll feel as if Miura was for once, very predictable. That’s why I too would like to see the highly doubtful happy ending. Not only would it make me happy as well, but also it would be something less likely.

Post by **Libaax** » Tue May 03, 2005 12:08 pm

Hope Miura thinks the same way that Guts living after he kills Griffith and co thats its less predictable to let Guts live rather him dyieng a heroes death.

Post by **|||||||** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:17 pm

Well if anyone would expect a all-dead ending what would you write? I mean there are still many ways to end this, like griffith betraying god hand and therefore them fighting each other rendering them powerless. In any case the only satisfying ending would be the downfall of the god hand.
As for guts dying at the end wouldn't feel right for me. He has struggled enough to, at least, get a short time of peace before he goes, like settling down and giving sword lessons.

Post by **3rdbloodage** » Tue May 03, 2005 3:24 pm

why do i have feeling that Berserk Manga will end .... when miura Die or lose thwe power to draw

Post by **Woffie^^** » Tue May 03, 2005 6:13 pm

Woha dos, thx ^^ it really warms my heart to hear such nice words ^^

By the way, the preferable ending would, after all, be Gatts and Casca, returned to normal, to settle down somewhere, just leaving it all behind.

Anyhow, the idea about the scene where Griffith is a "simple" man living with Casca wouldn't be impossible.
But again, time will tell =)

Post by **Sandman** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:25 pm

I think history will repeat its self, Schekie is like Flora and Guts is Like Skull Knight. Even if they destroy the God Hand there is still a God who make all of this stuff happen. So at the end all will live in peace but for how long.......

Next manga "The son of Guts: The return of the Berserker"

Post by **Arresty** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:26 pm

Even though that does seem to be the obvious ending I still think it would be appropriate. Teh series has him struggling to live, but for what? He may be just a tool to destroy the God Hand and the Idea. If that is the case then his struggling will have stopped, he will have no meaning to l ive if he is not struggling. Just think Cowboy Bebop. It was the obvious ending, but it fit the whole mood of the series and everything.

Post by **Sandman** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:41 pm

He could struggle to be a father to his kid or Kids...
there we go an army of Guts offspring, one learns magic, one learns how to throw things, one becomes a master strategist, and the first born gets Guts's job the berserker.

Sorry I know that should have went to the theories bin.

Post by **Arresty** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:44 pm

Its all about having a smooth story. Have the feel more or less the same. I mean it can fluctate but every story has an overall feel and theme, and Berserk is definately dark, and a happy ending woudl just be so wierd. It would be like watching a black comedy and its full of nice dark humor and all then has a happy ending. Its just wierd. Though some stories do pull it off.

Post by **Sandman** » Tue May 03, 2005 7:51 pm

Arresty wrote:Its all about having a smooth story. Have the feel more or less the same. I mean it can fluctate but every story has an overall feel and theme, and Berserk is definately dark, and a happy ending woudl just be so wierd. It would be like watching a black comedy and its full of nice dark humor and all then has a happy ending. Its just wierd. Though some stories do pull it off.

Can you name an example I can't think of one.

Post by **Sortep** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:22 pm

Sandman wrote:
Arresty wrote:Its all about having a smooth story. Have the feel more or less the same. I mean it can fluctate but every story has an overall feel and theme, and Berserk is definately dark, and a happy ending woudl just be so wierd. It would be like watching a black comedy and its full of nice dark humor and all then has a happy ending. Its just wierd. Though some stories do pull it off.
Can you name an example I can't think of one.

well if berserk goes that way.... you'll have your example

let us pray

Post by **Libaax** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:25 pm

Arresty wrote:Even though that does seem to be the obvious ending I still think it would be appropriate. Teh series has him struggling to live, but for what? He may be just a tool to destroy the God Hand and the Idea. If that is the case then his struggling will have stopped, he will have no meaning to l ive if he is not struggling. Just think Cowboy Bebop. It was the obvious ending, but it fit the whole mood of the series and everything.

You have a thing for mangas with heroes dieying in the end or something ?;)

I would hate that ending i mean he deservs one min without having to worry about killing apostles,monster etc.

Why must he struggle all his life,who says that its his purpose to beat evil,then simply drop dead? Fate? I think fate will give the guy a break after all the good he has done by singlehandly taking of the monster,demons etc.

Post by **Sandman** » Tue May 03, 2005 11:56 pm

Yes Guts needs to live and raise children with Caska, and he can name his dog Griffith so he can kick him every once and awhile

Post by **Arresty** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:41 am

Sandman wrote:
Arresty wrote:Its all about having a smooth story. Have the feel more or less the same. I mean it can fluctate but every story has an overall feel and theme, and Berserk is definately dark, and a happy ending woudl just be so wierd. It would be like watching a black comedy and its full of nice dark humor and all then has a happy ending. Its just wierd. Though some stories do pull it off.
Can you name an example I can't think of one.

Example of which one?

If he lives I think it shoudl just end right after the fight. No riding off into the sunset, no what happens afterwards. I think it shoudl just have him nearlly dead standing over Griffith's corpse on the last page. I guessmore what I think woudl not fit is them continueing it on showing up settling down or something. It needs to end with the final battle, enemy dies, manga ends.

Post by **dos.azn** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:02 am

Libaax wrote:Yeah Guts doesnt deserv to die after fighting monsters,demons most of his life. Let him enjoy a live of peace before he dies.

if u think about it after gutts accomplishes everything he is aiming for, theres not really anything left to live for. his entire life was a struggle since he was born. as for his new companions, im not sure they will even be alive. the last climatic battle will be the battle to end all battles. all bets will be off, and probably like only one side person if not gutts will be left standing, prolly isidoro or schierke or rickert.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:09 am

dos.azn wrote:
Libaax wrote:Yeah Guts doesnt deserv to die after fighting monsters,demons most of his life. Let him enjoy a live of peace before he dies.
if u think about it after gutts accomplishes everything he is aiming for, theres not really anything left to live for. his entire life was a struggle since he was born. as for his new companions, im not sure they will even be alive. the last climatic battle will be the battle to end all battles. all bets will be off, and probably like only one side person if not gutts will be left standing, prolly isidoro or schierke or rickert.

This is what i have been saying in my last two post.... why must the struggle be the only thing he can live for i mean he has a kid most likely if he doesnt its easy to make one;)

I would like the ending Arresty said in his last post that the manga would end with him standing over the dead body of Griffith and no riding of the sunset or showing what happens to him after. Lets us choose what he does after.

Post by **dos.azn** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:11 am

yea that sounds cool, but i would prefer an ending of did he die or did he live kind of thing

Post by **Arresty** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:21 am

I was actually thinking that when I typed my last post. Since I was refering to the only case I see fitting for him living I kept it wiht him living, but it woudl be cool to know Griffith was dead, and maybe have Guts all alone severly wounded, but still alive, not knowing whether he will stuggle to live again or finally accept fate and die.

Another reason I think he should die is that it kinda parallels Cowboy Bebop as in the main character is already dead in a sense, and only has one thing left to accomplish. I believe since Guts is fated to die it is appropriate for him to die, after killing the one who killed him.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:29 am

I was thinking more like that we the readers should choose what happens to Guts i mean if it ends with Guts standing there injured. I'm talking about an opening end so that the ones who wants a happy ending can say that he will live and the ones like you arresty and Doz can say that he is dead the wound was too much for him.

Post by **Arresty** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:43 am

I know what you mean, that is also what I said in my post about him standing over the body. I was refering to him living, but what he does now we don't know. The last post was in response to Dos.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:47 am

Then its just wait for the ending and see which one Míura chooses.

Post by **Arresty** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:53 am

True. We will never know until it happens, and there is no point debating over it now. Whatever he chooses it will be the correct choice I am sure.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:59 am

Even it will take a decade to the ending

Post by **Arresty** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:11 am

I need to make a time machine. Need to get the ending of this manga, as well as the ending of hellsing and many others.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:15 am

I geuss you havent read Hajime No Ippo it started 1989 its past 73 vols in japan now..... will probaly end in 2035 which isnt a bad thing