Little known Berserk facts...

[Aetherfukz]

Guys....the Kushan Empire actually EXISTED.

Of course I knew that, for I am no Narutard!

[spoiler]Well actually, I didn't know the Kushan empire really existed, but don't tell anyone![/spoiler]

[Rolos]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baden


The Kingdom of Baden existed too. Aparently, Miura likes to use the names of REAL medieval countries and dinasties when writing Berserk.

How curious.

[Istvan]

Guys....the Kushan Empire actually EXISTED.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushan_Empire

[spoiler]I am pretty sure you already knew that because, you know, this is EG, not some lame Narutard ridden forum.[/spoiler]

The one true difference between the actual Kushan Empire and the Berserk Universe's one, is the presence of a nigh-invulnerable undying Apostle Emperor at the head of said Empire.
An Empire ruled by a capable Emperor that just doesn't die is bound to have a level of stability and prosperity no real empire could ever even hope to match. Add a supernatural army to the equation and you have the perfect formula for unstoppable expansion.
However, from a political stand-point, The Kushan empire in Berserk bears a striking resemblance with ("to" instead of "with"?) the Ottoman Turkish Empire in real history.


PS: Sorry if I wrote something in a weird or nonsensical way, I just came back from a party and there are still some traces of that Scotch in my blood.....

I know. That's why I said it was probably all of India and Persia in my post (the places said Kushan Empire was located), since I figured the one in Berserk would be much bigger and more powerful than the real one was.

[Rolos]

Yeah, I know, it's because of your post that I added the spoiler.

Quick question: Has there ever been an empire that included both the middle east and India?
And I don't mean like the Mongols, that just razed everything on their path from the north of China to Hungary. I mean an actual Empire, with the constant hegemony and direct control over other countries that it entails.

[Aetherfukz]

Yeah, I know, it's because of your post that I added the spoiler.

Quick question: Has there ever been an empire that included both the middle east and India?
And I don't mean like the Mongols, that just razed everything on their path from the north of China to Hungary. I mean an actual Empire, with the constant hegemony and direct control over other countries that it entails.

Greece under Alexander had Persia, India, and a whole lot of the middle east IIRC.

[Rolos]

Yeah, I know, it's because of your post that I added the spoiler.

Quick question: Has there ever been an empire that included both the middle east and India?
And I don't mean like the Mongols, that just razed everything on their path from the north of China to Hungary. I mean an actual Empire, with the constant hegemony and direct control over other countries that it entails.

Greece under Alexander had Persia, India, and a whole lot of the middle east IIRC.

Yeah, but it didn't last even a single generation. The moment Alexander died (and he sure as hell died early) his Empire died with him.

If you look at it objectively, in the end he wasn't much different from the Mongols. He just destroyed already existing Empires, without leaving much behind. The only part of his Empire that survived him was Egypt, under the control of one of his Generals, Ptolomeo.

[Istvan]

Yeah, I know, it's because of your post that I added the spoiler.

Quick question: Has there ever been an empire that included both the middle east and India?
And I don't mean like the Mongols, that just razed everything on their path from the north of China to Hungary. I mean an actual Empire, with the constant hegemony and direct control over other countries that it entails.

Greece under Alexander had Persia, India, and a whole lot of the middle east IIRC.

Yeah, but it didn't last even a single generation. The moment Alexander died (and he sure as hell died early) his Empire died with him.

If you look at it objectively, in the end he wasn't much different from the Mongols. He just destroyed already existing Empires, without leaving much behind. The only part of his Empire that survived him was Egypt, under the control of one of his Generals, Ptolomeo.

That's not entirely accurate. True, the political structure didn't last, being broken up almost as soon as he died, but he had a profound (and lasting) impact on the culture/governing on many of the regions that he conquered. It's part of the reason the Greek meme was spread so widely, and (arguably) was a big step forward for "civilization" in the region.

[Rolos]

Yeah, that may be right from a cultural point of view, but I am talking about an active political influence. That went away as fast as you can say "Ozymandias".

[The Herald]

Ozymandias was Ramses the second, the one who's in Exodus. The way you put it made it sound like Ozymandias was Alexander. Here's an unknown Berserk fact: all people who try to make the DS will undergo some annoying but not quite debilidating injury. I stabbed myself with an exacto knife about half an inch deep into my thumb joint, which of course is the left hand that's wearing the Gut's hand, and I can't type very well or hold my dumb DS, which currently looks like a popsicle because it's made of pink foam. I'm sure the blacksmiths who do it the right way get little burns and whatnot. I feel like such a doofus though because when I was cleaning it I went into shock, cold sweat, blurry vision, the whole nine yards. Which is especially dumb because earlier in the week I stepped on a mirror and had to pull glass frags out of my foot and didn't care.

Also, the mother fuckers who said they were going to come with me all opted out of it ALL ON THE SAME FUCKING DAY!!!! Now I have no Griffith, Casca, or Puck, and I've already made the costumes! FUCK THE UNIVERSE!!!! I have to put my dragonslayer in oversized baggage on Greyhound because I have no car now, damn it!!!! God damn mother fucking cunt suckers they all turned out to be.

[Rolos]

Ozymandias was Ramses the second, the one who's in Exodus. The way you put it made it sound like Ozymandias was Alexander.

Nope, its a joke about how little both Alexander's (probably the only person Adrian Veidt ever admired) and Adrian Veidt's own unified worlds lasted.
They both did the unspeakable in order to unite the world, only to have it destroyed a few months later by seemingly insignificant details.

If you think about it, its hilarious.


Despair, ye mighty!

[RoahKenOh]

Are we seriously arguing about ancient civilizations? Haha. Berserk is more than just a great manga, its educational as well. =)

[The Herald]

I'm rereading the later books, 24 and on, and I noticed that not only Guts invokes the name of God, and often at that, so does Flora, after explaining to the crew all about the three planes of existence. I believe this is evidence that there may just be a God in the Berserk world, existential from the Godhand and all that.

[Istvan]

I'm rereading the later books, 24 and on, and I noticed that not only Guts invokes the name of God, and often at that, so does Flora, after explaining to the crew all about the three planes of existence. I believe this is evidence that there may just be a God in the Berserk world, existential from the Godhand and all that.

Guts using it doesn't mean anything, since he has no special knowledge in that regard, and we already know there is a major religion in the Berserk world. Flora's use is interesting, I'll grant, but I wonder about how much even a witch knows about things such as "god." I especially wonder if she knows about the details of said god, since there is a god in the Berserk world - namely Idea of Evil. Maybe Flora simply doesn't have the whole picture...after all, she mentions that no witch can discover anything about what's in the Vortex.