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Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo, I would live happier if I havent read this. Ah, this is fucking sad.Turd Ferguson wrote: Also, about the "Til next time!" everyone keeps mentioning. The last time we got one of those was September of 2006, and we didn't get the next release until January. It was a long, hard four months. So be prepared to hunker down and tough out a long wait. Might not be a bad time to re-read from the beggining, maybe even a few times.
Istvan wrote:I think that might actually be a better analogy, frankly. A behelit is designed to bring a potential Apostle into the Abyss at the appropriate time, so that they can make the sacrifice. It's basically a tool of causality. From what we've seen it is the ceremony and the intervention of the Idea of Evil that does the actual "upgrade" into Apostle, and that upgrade is what the giant flesh mound seems to be supposed to duplicate. Basically just a device to pour lots and lots of "evil energy" into something in order to shape it into a powerful monster.Interesting how the Emperor's "man-made behelit" resembles nothing so much as a smaller version of the Idea of Evil's fleshy core.
Should be interesting, this is very similar to what the count was attempting to do in volume 3 with a 2nd rebirth. I just wonder how much of an upgrade this is really going to be. I hope it is significant enough that he will actually pose some sort of resistance towards Griffith (or at least until Griffith decides to get serious).Rolos wrote:Istvan wrote:I think that might actually be a better analogy, frankly. A behelit is designed to bring a potential Apostle into the Abyss at the appropriate time, so that they can make the sacrifice. It's basically a tool of causality. From what we've seen it is the ceremony and the intervention of the Idea of Evil that does the actual "upgrade" into Apostle, and that upgrade is what the giant flesh mound seems to be supposed to duplicate. Basically just a device to pour lots and lots of "evil energy" into something in order to shape it into a powerful monster.Interesting how the Emperor's "man-made behelit" resembles nothing so much as a smaller version of the Idea of Evil's fleshy core.
I was thinking the same thing. Also, this "reincarnator" doesn't seem to extract that evil energy from the abyss, like the fleshy core of the idea of evil did. Instead, it sucks the energy of living beings from the physical realm. At least thats the impression I had after seeing how the mist absorbed the life of everything it came in contact before entering the reincarnator where the Emperor was forcing his second "rebirth".
There's no way to know for sure, but I suspect that Griffith is the one controlling the dreams, as one of his powers. If he's not, he certainly knows what the dreams are going to be, as shown when he sent Mule and the psychic girl (I forget her name) off to recruit the Pope, and knew they would be successful.Lord Rae wrote:not likely to cause grifith much concern... Remember the dreams predicted all of this.. even the giant new form of the Kushan emperor... So its not like this hasn't been forseen... by Grifith himself even? Is he controlling the dreams or is it Idea directly?
Probably the last time a human attacked him. The Kushans as he escaped from the second eclipse, maybe? And before them the Chain Knights, and more Kushans, and servents/warriors of the Snake and Slug Apostles, and so on. Guts is perfectly willing to kill humans, when they attack him. But I agree that he doesn't kill normal humans unless they attack him, and often works hard to save normal people's lives.The Herald wrote:It's bizarre how the story is unfolding, with two separate arcs, because against the Kushans Griffith seems like a good guy. When, really all he is is another form of evil that they people are accepting because he saved them and is marrying their queen. By that logic I guess Guts is evil too, killing whoever gets in his way, but he's been really careful not to kill anyone who wasn't an apostle (or in the case of the bug kids warped by an apostle). When was the last time Guts killed a human?
Those Demon Hound Dog Knights were the coolest enemies in the series, don't be dissing them by putting them in the same boat as Griffith.Aetherfukz wrote: But it's only Apostles and Crapshit like Griffith and those Demon Hound Dog Knights that kill innocents like a family that doesn't have to do with anything.
Rolos wrote:-He was born from a corpse? Has been killing (or assisting in the process) people ever since he was 5? Hahahaa...talk about having a shitty life. Its hilarious because he's not me.
For once we're in agreement. That scene was fucked.Aetherfukz wrote:You are a very disturbed man!
How can anyone think that scene was "cool"?
That scene was cool. I miss stuff like that. The only disturbing thing we can see now is the mist x(.FightClub wrote:Those Demon Hound Dog Knights were the coolest enemies in the series, don't be dissing them by putting them in the same boat as Griffith.Aetherfukz wrote: But it's only Apostles and Crapshit like Griffith and those Demon Hound Dog Knights that kill innocents like a family that doesn't have to do with anything.
Coolest shit ever, torso's impaled on spears.
Depends how you define "disturbing", in my opinion. True, it's been awhile since something of quite that level, probably at least since Griffith was reborn. On the other hand, there were plenty of gruesome scenes of dismemberment and slaughter in the escape to the ship. So I wouldn't say that there's been no disturbing thing recently, frankly there have been (and will doubtless continue to be) lots.Arcandus wrote:That scene was cool. I miss stuff like that. The only disturbing thing we can see now is the mist x(.FightClub wrote:Those Demon Hound Dog Knights were the coolest enemies in the series, don't be dissing them by putting them in the same boat as Griffith.Aetherfukz wrote: But it's only Apostles and Crapshit like Griffith and those Demon Hound Dog Knights that kill innocents like a family that doesn't have to do with anything.
Coolest shit ever, torso's impaled on spears.
From what we've seen a lot of them probably are Wyld-like (remember when psychic girl went wandering among them, and they came close to eating her?). It's just that they don't generally show it because Griffith keeps such tight control over them, and they want to follow and obey their "god."I know Griffith is a greedy, cold-hearted bastard who is playing with the minds of an entire country, while feeding his own personal hell with the souls of every single warrior that falls while fighting for him...........but personally, I would like to see more Wyld-like apostles in Griffith s army.
Agreed, you know what I miss is some Epic battles, like the Battles Guts had with Zodd, it was really cool when Guts fought side by side with Zodd against the Emperor, when Guts said Fuck You to the emperor, but now is remembering me of Dragonball, that had something like 5 chapters just preparing for the fight, just to make you wait for it huahuaauhauh. But the incomming battle will be cool, ohhh it willDepends how you define "disturbing", in my opinion. True, it's been awhile since something of quite that level, probably at least since Griffith was reborn. On the other hand, there were plenty of gruesome scenes of dismemberment and slaughter in the escape to the ship. So I wouldn't say that there's been no disturbing thing recently, frankly there have been (and will doubtless continue to be) lots.
