Page 1 of 1

Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:00 am
by Born_Loser
Hello everyone.

So. I've been pondering on this story I was writing, up all night basically. Well. a large part of my story is Runes. So, I realized I needed to learn more about them, so, I went and dived into rune lore to learn as much as I could. When... I made this important discovery.

The Mark of the Chosen in Berserk is a combination of two runes.


the first rune is eolhx: Image

Which means "sancturary" or "Protection". As you can see, this is the part of the mark that runs up the center.

Next, is the rune eþel: Image
this Rune basically means "Property".

As you can see, in the mark, this rune is turned upside down, and has the eolhx rune placed in the center of it. Combine these two Runes, and you got yourself a Berserk Mark. Now, I think the meaning of them combined like that is clear. Those who are branded, are the sanctified property of the God-Hand.

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 2:12 pm
by DrPepperPro
It's almost exact. The actual symbol is this:
Image

Those 2 put together would be:
Image


It's very possible that Miura looked into runes and symbols rather than just making up the brand. So yes good find.

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Tue Dec 22, 2009 5:08 pm
by The Herald
i bet you those extra two lines represent the arms of the godhand that are the apostles and stuff like that

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:40 am
by newbified
I'm more familiar with Scandinavian mythology and rune sets, where those two are:

Image Algiz:

Roughly meaning Elk, which stands for protection and stands as a ward against evil.

Image Odal or Othala:

Roughly means Ancestral property pertaining to inherited property or possessions through heritage.

What sense are your definitions for the runes from? Is it from a different religion other than Norse?

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 6:45 am
by Starnum
Interesting.

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:46 pm
by Born_Loser
newbified wrote:I'm more familiar with Scandinavian mythology and rune sets, where those two are:

Image Algiz:

Roughly meaning Elk, which stands for protection and stands as a ward against evil.

Image Odal or Othala:

Roughly means Ancestral property pertaining to inherited property or possessions through heritage.

What sense are your definitions for the runes from? Is it from a different religion other than Norse?
While I was reading about the runes from the Elder Futhark, the information i posted is what i found. I only know very little about runes, so, you are probably more correct than me.

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 6:52 am
by Rolos
First decent thread in a while.
Rolos Approves.
Where did you guys find all this information regarding runes? I have a vague desire to learn more about them.

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:12 am
by tsubaimomo
Rolos wrote:Where did you guys find all this information regarding runes?
Diablo II

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Mon Dec 28, 2009 12:51 am
by Istvan
Born_Loser wrote:Hello everyone.

So. I've been pondering on this story I was writing, up all night basically. Well. a large part of my story is Runes. So, I realized I needed to learn more about them, so, I went and dived into rune lore to learn as much as I could. When... I made this important discovery.

The Mark of the Chosen in Berserk is a combination of two runes.


the first rune is eolhx: Image

Which means "sancturary" or "Protection". As you can see, this is the part of the mark that runs up the center.

Next, is the rune eþel: Image
this Rune basically means "Property".

As you can see, in the mark, this rune is turned upside down, and has the eolhx rune placed in the center of it. Combine these two Runes, and you got yourself a Berserk Mark. Now, I think the meaning of them combined like that is clear. Those who are branded, are the sanctified property of the God-Hand.
Nice! Also it kind of lends credence to my theory that people with the brand don't/can't die of age (probably), disease, or other "peaceful" ways. They are the property of the God's Hand, and aren't allowed (or in other words are protected from) to die in anything other than pain and agony, presumably as a result of violence. The fact that it seems to make Guts slightly tougher/stronger than he should be might also be deliberate (another aspect of "protection") since it ensures that the sacrifice can suffer more before finally dying.

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2009 6:27 am
by Sandman
Right on Born Loser... I love finding (or being shown) links between berserk and the "real world" :twisted:

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 3:17 am
by Born_Loser
Istvan wrote:
Born_Loser wrote:Hello everyone.

So. I've been pondering on this story I was writing, up all night basically. Well. a large part of my story is Runes. So, I realized I needed to learn more about them, so, I went and dived into rune lore to learn as much as I could. When... I made this important discovery.

The Mark of the Chosen in Berserk is a combination of two runes.


the first rune is eolhx: Image

Which means "sancturary" or "Protection". As you can see, this is the part of the mark that runs up the center.

Next, is the rune eþel: Image
this Rune basically means "Property".

As you can see, in the mark, this rune is turned upside down, and has the eolhx rune placed in the center of it. Combine these two Runes, and you got yourself a Berserk Mark. Now, I think the meaning of them combined like that is clear. Those who are branded, are the sanctified property of the God-Hand.
Nice! Also it kind of lends credence to my theory that people with the brand don't/can't die of age (probably), disease, or other "peaceful" ways. They are the property of the God's Hand, and aren't allowed (or in other words are protected from) to die in anything other than pain and agony, presumably as a result of violence. The fact that it seems to make Guts slightly tougher/stronger than he should be might also be deliberate (another aspect of "protection") since it ensures that the sacrifice can suffer more before finally dying.

You also gotta keep in mind that the 2nd rune is inverted, the Japanese usually do that when they want the meaning to be opposite.

Re: Berserk Mark discovery.

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 4:18 am
by Dokuro no Kishi
DrPepperPro wrote:It's almost exact. The actual symbol is this:
Image

Those 2 put together would be:
Image


It's very possible that Miura looked into runes and symbols rather than just making up the brand. So yes good find.
I can see a guy with spiky hair doing exercise. So mabye that's where he got it from.