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leet speak, a parent's guide by microsft.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:02 am
by psi29a
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:26 am
by Eldo
'To beat the enemy, first, we must know the enemy'
Wow, that is l337. I don't even know half of the 'slang' is. Doesn't Microsoft have anything better to do? Apparently not.
I 'liked' the following:
"n00b," "noob," "newbie," or "newb": Combinations synonymous with new user. Some leetspeekers view "n00b" as an insult and "newbie" as an affectionate term for new users.
"pwn": A typo-deliberate version of own, a slang term that means to dominate. This could also be spelled "0\/\/n3d" or "pwn3d," among other variations. Online video game bullies or "griefers" often use this term.
While we're at it,
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/securit ... efers.mspx. This is just so SAD.
I think this forum should stay clear of l337t4lk. Don't give Microsoft something to write about

. This article makes it sound like the 'kewl' kids are writing in code to hid shit from their parents. Since when has this become a secret agent war between parents and their children? 007 means something else when read upside down. It's in code. That is l337.
Oh, they missed out ghey.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:33 am
by Libaax
I dont like when people use slangs like that just because we are online doesnt mean we cant talk normal.
Good link for a parent though if there is one in this forum.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:33 am
by psi29a
History behind leet speak comes from making common words usable as passwords.
normal: void main()
password: v01d m41|\|()
which still is a sensable security technique. oh, and that particular password is something I made up... *grin* as in, i've never used it nor plan to use it now.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:38 am
by Libaax
Hehe i can understand that you have never use that password since you get tired of writing such difficult password to write everytime you log in

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:46 am
by Femto
bUt 1337 is teh roxx0rz!!!11!!111
I always find 1337 to be funny, in the sense that I cannot believe that people would write like that. It's always funny when people are discussing something serious and some guy comes by saying "1 alr3ady h@ve teh romz."
And my god, I cannot believe Microsucks would write an article like that.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:49 am
by psi29a
Actually, I use longer passwords. It comes from being in the business of dealing with IT security. Bruce force systems would blow away alpha numeric passwords with no problems, by adding additional characters that aren't apart of the alphabet greatly lengthens the time it takes. It is just a matter of discreate math.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:49 am
by Starnum
Boo! Boo 1337! 
Using it for passwords is all good and fine, but I think it's silly otherwise.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:50 am
by Libaax
Bill Gates is soo gready now that he isnt the richest man so im not suprised by this.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:53 am
by Eldo
Home run for Microsoft for being more family-aware

. It appears it's trying to search for a soul. It's nice to know that by buying their products, I'm paying for that guy's wage to write more not-intended hilarious trashtalk translation. One word: WOW.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 4:58 am
by Libaax
psi29a wrote:Actually, I use longer passwords. It comes from being in the business of dealing with IT security. Bruce force systems would blow away alpha numeric passwords with no problems, by adding additional characters that aren't apart of the alphabet greatly lengthens the time it takes. It is just a matter of discreate math.
Isnt annoying having long passwords when you need a password for forums.
Offtopic:
cause of the time diffrence i have to sleep when people start coming to forum:P....zzzz...
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:05 am
by psi29a
Libaax: I don't know man, I feel that I'm responsible to you all in keeping my passwords difficult to guess. You know, keeping the forum safe.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:10 am
by Libaax
Well i didnt mean the password for this forum where you are in controll of.
I meant forums in general where you need to have an password that is easy to remember.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:11 am
by Eldo
psi29a wrote:Libaax: I don't know man, I feel that I'm responsible to you all in keeping my passwords difficult to guess. You know, keeping the forum safe.
Yeah, like, keeping this forum safe is kewl and l337

. My password's pretty easy to get. I don't intend to keep a secretive password since I don't really have anything worth keeping anyway. They can check my hotmail account if the want. They'll just only have to read 100+ emails of porn.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:15 am
by Libaax
Haha eldo

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:19 am
by Arresty
I agree with you psi. I use longer passwords that use extra characters as well, if you type it a few times in a short period of time it gets where you can type it in efficiently. And you create the password from a word you can remember just change parts of it like 4 or @ for a's and such. But on alot of things I don't care about I use a simpler password compared to other things. It just depends. I always have atleast one number or letter.
And on the note of the 133t I just find it humorous, especially when people can't read it. I learned it just by reading MegaTokyo. Its not to hard to figure out.
And the griefers thing is funny.
Hotmail Sucks. Gmail Rocks.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:57 am
by Buzkashi
At first I was liking the idea of Gmail, but then I read that they go through your mail and send you junk mail based on what your emails are. And I seriously dislike the idea of people going through my mail.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:01 am
by Eldo
Buzkashi wrote:At first I was liking the idea of Gmail, but then I read that they go through your mail and send you junk mail based on what your emails are. And I seriously dislike the idea of people going through my mail.
Really? I haven't got any spam or junk mail in my gmail account.
I'd like to know what Hung's email is. Then I'll register him to all this gay porn mail. But I bet he gets enough hate mail as it is to even notice it.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:02 am
by psi29a
Buz: I've had gmail for awhile now and not one junk mail. Come on, nearly 98% of google inc. is made up of PhDs, they use gmail... I seriously doubt they want spam either. What gmail does is mechanically parse your email for 'buzzwords' and show related topics on the right hand side. No different from google searches or using their other services like maps.google.com.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:03 am
by Starnum
Hm, I wonder if I still have that account that I registered with all of those porn sites. Heh, probably not. 
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 6:05 am
by Arresty
I have been using it for a few months now. It is awsome. One of the best features is how it categorizes your mail. All replies and fowards and stuff are just in one thing so you can go back and read it as if it was IM or something. Cuts down on clutter alot. Also 1 GB of storage is awsome.
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:52 pm
by zokie
omG w00t.... 7|-|47 roxor3d.... or not.... just lace it to microsoft to write a totally wierd and unecessary text for the parents who just wont go there.... and then again was it only me or did any of you notice that they made it sound like someone who use "pwn" are hackers...
Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 8:39 pm
by Eldo
zokie wrote:and then again was it only me or did any of you notice that they made it sound like someone who use "pwn" are hackers...
Maybe Microsoft finds their hackers from people who use 'pwn'.