Evil Genius

Well, despite the fact that the George Bush Gang has been shushing scientists who dare to disagree with his administration's fantastical world view, now an entire governmental agency has come out and stated that global warming is occurring.

Two studies were recently published, documenting changes in the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets, confirming that climate warming is changing how much water remains locked in Earth's largest storehouses of ice and snow (Greenland pictured at top and right). As if there could be any doubt regarding their conclusions, NASA recently published a satellite study of both regions and goes so far as to directly tie these changes to global warming, describing the survey as "the most comprehensive" ever for both regions.

Based on satellite mapping of ice sheets, published in the peer-reviewed Journal of Glaciology, the survey validated computer models projecting the effects of global climate change on Earth. In the NASA press release, the study's lead author, Jay Zwally said of the data;

If the trends we're seeing continue and climate warming continues as predicted, the polar ice sheets could change dramatically. The Greenland ice sheet could be facing an irreversible decline by the end of the century.

Gaiseric wrote:Thats some beautiful looking water. I'd pay upwards of five dollars for a bottle of it.

Shaka Zulu wrote:Where are you from? I'm from frigging Sweden, its supposed to be cold ass shithole for almost all year long, and this winter has been no winter at all. No snow at all for november and december...a two days of little snow around christmas day or so(magical huh) that melted away as quickly.

Been so far too, if there's snow, its barely any that would cover the ground or not melt away few days later(or even a day later like today, was little snow yesterday that made it all white, not a single white spot left the day after). Just been autumn wether all winter long.




People can call it whatever they like, but this FAR from the usual weather and circusmtances. Its bizzare though that they have snow blizzards and various other snow storms that either kill the unfortunate here or there, or just incapicitate the electricity and the general running of towns.

Grahf wrote:But increased temperature means over a period of time sea level will rise.

Climate change is real, and it is happening and lots of people are going to die due to coastal flooding. Just means we will have to prepare for it, and move more inland. In recent history, we have experienced a small ice age, and a small 'global warming' phase. All we have to do is look at the history of Greenland.

The Medieval Warm Period (MWP) was a time of unusually warm weather around 800-1300 AD, during the European Medieval period. Initial research on the MWP and the following Little Ice Age (LIA) was largely done in Europe, where the phenomenon was most obvious and clearly documented.

Icelandic settlers found Greenland uninhabited when they arrived 982 AD. In 984 AD they established the Eastern and Western settlements in deep fjords near the very southwestern tip of the island, where they thrived for the next few centuries, and then disappeared after over 450 years of habitation.

After almost five hundred years, the Scandinavian settlements simply vanished, possibly due to famine during the fifteenth century in the Little Ice Age (LIA), when climatic conditions deteriorated, and contact with Europe was lost. Bones from this late period were found to be in a condition consistent with malnutrition.

Albator wrote:Yeah, I guess the trick is to really understand what "natural" encompass in this case.

My wife's mother is geologist, and she doesn't seems to be too concern about all these things. Her take is that it's nothing more than cyclic, and humanity's role is unclear (meaning unclear, not saying it doesn't do anything, as it surely does. It's just unclear).

However she's scared as hell by "super volcanoes". The history of Earth has records of such eruptions, and it seemed that it fucked everything up for a good time (meaning, massive climate change due to the cinders clouds and gas and of course species extinction). Also seems that there's a couple of those in America, amongst other places, that are sleeping (can't remember where). Such eruption would pretty much encompass the whole America, and seriously affect the capacity for the planet to hold life. I never investigated that further, so I don't know if it's really true or just a tale to have me get off her daughter. I don't think she would mess up with that though. Any idea?

Devil_Dante wrote:Oh and here is something else. Warm temperature causes birds not to fly to southern countries in the winter. Meaning that predators that live from these birds are gonna die (many anyway). No more predators means a lot more other animals.... no more balance in the food chain.

Albator wrote:My wife's mother is geologist, and she doesn't seems to be too concern about all these things. Her take is that it's nothing more than cyclic, and humanity's role is unclear (meaning unclear, not saying it doesn't do anything, as it surely does. It's just unclear).