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Anxious times in the cartoon underground

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 3:42 pm
by psi29a
" In early December, a bombshell dropped onto one of the fastest-growing file-swapping communities online, where Nikolai Nolan has made his home for the last several years.

Nolan, a 22-year-old student at the University of Michigan, is one of the leaders of Anime-Faith, one of hundreds of groups that take Japanese cartoons, translate and subtitle them in English, and release them freely on the Net.

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http://tinyurl.com/5cvcp

I used tinyurl.com to shrink the url below so we don't have any horizontal scrolling.

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Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:35 pm
by Eldo
I liked this part:
the recent final episode of a series called "Battle Programmer Shirase," in which the director included an apology for having to end the series, addressed to "those who enjoy the show on TV, and to those outside the broadcast area who took special measures to watch the show on their PC monitors, and to everyone who watched it subtitled overseas without permission."
I always thought fan-subbing was a way to spread the joys and wonders of anime to foreign audiences. I think the fan base wouldn't expand with it wasn't for the groups. More than 10 years ago, nobody knew what anime was. They were still watching Scooby Doo and Flintstones, and only a minority has seen Akira. And plus, I think they would have better sells on their merch and stuff.

I just think it's ridiculous that companies like to add at least an extra billion or two dollars on lost sales. They make up an imaginery figure that is impossible to reach and also not expected to make, and they blame it on the file-sharers. SHAME ON YOU, you cavier-devouring, cuban ciger-puffing...!

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:48 pm
by Gaiseric
I know I bought a few anime series that I wouldn't have if I hadn't seen a fansub of it first. Anime doesn't come out in theaters and most of it is not on tv here, so how can they expect us to throw 20+ dollars on a dvd not knowing whether we will like it or not? And rental places like Blockbuster do have anime, but they only have a small selection and its usually stuff thats 8 years old.

Like someone else on here said; The Japanese get to see it on tv for free, why cant we? Sure, they have sponsors paying for commercials that we dont have to sit through, but with things like Tivo, they dont have to watch commercials either.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:42 pm
by Libaax
They should be thankful to to groups like anime-faith. I would never buy anime dvds if i havent started downloading anime, until 2 years ago i didn even know about anime.

Posted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:43 pm
by Buzkashi
Just wow.

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:16 am
by Starnum
Gaiseric wrote:I know I bought a few anime series that I wouldn't have if I hadn't seen a fansub of it first. Anime doesn't come out in theaters and most of it is not on tv here, so how can they expect us to throw 20+ dollars on a dvd not knowing whether we will like it or not? And rental places like Blockbuster do have anime, but they only have a small selection and its usually stuff thats 8 years old.

Like someone else on here said; The Japanese get to see it on tv for free, why cant we? Sure, they have sponsors paying for commercials that we dont have to sit through, but with things like Tivo, they dont have to watch commercials either.
Yeah, it was I who said that.

I liked this part:

"I think there are some Japanese companies that really appreciate fansubbing."
Fuck corporate America! They just over charge us, and tend to butcher the shit anyway! Nuff said.

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 11:58 pm
by dos.azn
*nods, only DVDs ive ever bought were for berserk, everything else is just an unnecessary charge up my ass

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:11 am
by Kêthêrîc
it's the same with cd's. If you buy a cd for $15.00 and there is only 1 or 2 good songs on it, you got ripped off. If you download most of the cd and you like almost every song, you go out and buy it. My first anime purchase was "Master of the Dark Twilight." It looked cool...... but it sucked ass. downloading is good, it prevents me from buying a shitty product. if i like the product, i will support the maker.

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:16 am
by Starnum
You mean, "Twilight of the Dark Master", right?

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:58 pm
by Damien
Thats why I support Only My FAVORITE music artists and ANIME.

http://www.thewbalchannel.com/technolog ... etail.html

http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=653