Zolo = Guts!!!!!!!

Post by **Sandman** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:07 pm

I just relized last night that Zolo from one piece has the same voice actor as Guts from Berserk!!!! I checked it out today and its true Marc DIRAISON does both voices!!!! This makes me want to watch One Piece even though I dont really like it. Marc did a remarkable job with Guts's voice I want to see how well he voices a pirate hunter.

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Post by **Buzkashi** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:40 pm

I never watched berserk in english. Maybe i should.

Post by **Eldo** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:50 pm

I'm not sure if watching something you don't like because of a voice actor is really worth watching. Plus, it's dubbed, I haven't watched anime dubbed in a long time. Subs for teh win.

Post by **Sandman** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:50 pm

Yes you should the voice actors really bring out the emotion, the best part was when Guts yells out "GRIFFITH!!!" that always makes me shiver.

Eldo to tell you the truth it has some points that I dont like but for the most part it is interesting a kid trying to be King of Pirates who has heard of such a thing??? And cursed fruit that makes you invaunrable what is up with that??? Well I was going to give up on watching but knowing that Zolo is Guts make it that much more interesting. So I guess its not just the voice actor, but its no berserk that is for sure it might lose my interest soon who knows

Post by **Tempest** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 10:51 pm

And when Guts sings "Berserker" in the outtakes.

Post by **Necromancer** » Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:58 pm

When I first saw Berserk in english, I thought the japanese voice is better. But later after I got used to the voice I didn't like the japanese anymore.

The DVD Outtakes rock.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:54 am

I really really prefer Subs.

Post by **Skullkracker** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 7:53 am

I watched Berserk in English as well...except for the last two episodes...although everyone did a decent amount of screaming there it didn't quite have the same feeling. The English voices matched those personalities incredibly well.

and Guts had a freakin' cool voice

Post by **Loeviz** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:38 pm

I was thinking on getting ahold off One piece, but cant buy it yet in sweden, and dont got a place where I can DL it either

Post by **LordMune** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 12:39 pm

Who the fuck cares about english voice actors?

Post by **Sandman** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 5:01 pm

Well when an actor does such a good job portraying a deep character like Guts with nothing but your voice, that is an accomplishment worth recognition. Also if there is a second season of berserk they had better get the same voice actors. I also think that the outtakes make the DVDs worth getting and watching in English.

Post by **Libaax** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 9:49 pm

I checked this topic just cause i thought you were talking about the japanese voice actor for zolo and Guts were the same.

Dubbing is one of the worst things i know......

Post by **Sandman** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:26 pm

Yes it is true that Subs are the way to go... with berserk I put the english voices on and the sub titles on also and they were nothing alike... that is how I know Subs are better

And another thing in the japan version of One Piece Zolo is Zoro, I bet they changed it in the US because they didnt want people to be confused.

Post by **Libaax** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 10:33 pm

But i must say that the guy who played Spike in the english version av CB was great. I rented the movie long time ago and didnt know anything about subs back then.

Other than that dubbing sucks;)

One thing i dont like is that the japanese vocies in OP sucks bigtime everyone except Zoro,Usopp(sp?) and Crocodile.

Ruffy's who is a fav of min in the manga sounds like a 50 year old woman....

Post by **LordMune** » Fri Sep 02, 2005 11:00 pm

In other news, Midô Ban = Guts.

No filthy american imperialist-capitalist dog voice-actors here.

Post by **Ayanami** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:20 am

Necromancer wrote:The DVD Outtakes rock.

"Biatch please, don't hate the player, hate the game!"

"ha ha ha ha ha"

"Who let the dogs out!"

As for dubs versus subs. I think it is a weak argument. If you don't know a lick of japanese, then why watch it in japanese? To hear the truncations of the voice in a language you don't freaking understand? I think the anime rant that Eldo posted had it pretty good. Any who, there are some horrible dubs out there any way, Berserk is not that bad, should not be a big deal to watch it in English.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 3:36 am

Well I watched Berserk in english after I seen it in Japanese it IS a nice change if the DUB is DECENT.

Post by **Ayanami** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:10 am

Damien wrote:Well I watched Berserk in english after I seen it in Japanese it IS a nice change if the DUB is DECENT.

That is all I ask, is that you give it a chance. Some of the otaku people that I know are so ghey for Japanese anything that they just bash the dub for no reason.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 4:29 am

Yeah but, I can understand where you are comming from, but It can't be seriously trashed like the one piece dub that is absolutely horrible. Thats lack of caring about a series.

Post by **Buzkashi** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 6:12 am

Sandman wrote:
Eldo to tell you the truth it has some points that I dont like but for the most part it is interesting a kid trying to be King of Pirates who has heard of such a thing???

Naruto.

Post by **LordMune** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 10:21 am

Reasons dubs, even decent dubs, are bad;

1. It's not the original. Plain and simple. It's a second-hand interpretation of a script. It's the same with subs, but if they get it wrong it's less heinous.

2. American voice-actors all sound the same. As do japanese voice-actors, but not to the same extent.

3. If Goku sounds like a little girl in the japanese version of DBZ, then he is supposed to sound like a little girl, period.

4. Americanization. Way too common- japanese concepts don't often translate well to american equivalents.

5. It is way too easy for the licensor to make subtle changes to the script; either by changing the mood of a scene simply by manually directing the voice-actors, or simply censor the shit out of the show. America is big on censorship for a country that values free speech.

If it's at all possible for me to read a book in its original language rather than a translation, I damn well do so.

Ayanami wrote:If you don't know a lick of japanese, then why watch it in japanese?

Albeit I do know a small lick of japanese, so I guess this argument didn't apply to me in the first place...

Post by **Skullkracker** » Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:26 pm

I wonder what Skull Kight would sound like

...and come one Mune, don't tell me American voice-actors are that similar
there's a bunch of them and at least they are good

I hate most Hungarian dubs becouse they are literally done almost by the same people
and most of them suck

Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:39 pm

HEhehehe Mune. Ever seen Cyborg009? Was a danish guy who dubbed all the voices for the serie. Lots of grammatical errors and stupid voices

. Now tell me if you had seen it with the original voices, it wouldn't be half as fun as it is right now.

!

Post by **Necromancer** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:43 am

I hate the whole german translations. Yeah it's my mother language but they suck, so much errors and most voices especially in anime sound gay.

Post by **Libaax** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:11 pm

Ayanami wrote:
Necromancer wrote:The DVD Outtakes rock.
"Biatch please, don't hate the player, hate the game!"

"ha ha ha ha ha"

"Who let the dogs out!"

As for dubs versus subs. I think it is a weak argument. If you don't know a lick of japanese, then why watch it in japanese? To hear the truncations of the voice in a language you don't freaking understand? I think the anime rant that Eldo posted had it pretty good. Any who, there are some horrible dubs out there any way, Berserk is not that bad, should not be a big deal to watch it in English.

That's whats the subtitles are for arent they?
For example bollywood movies are big in my native country of somalia and many other countries despite we dont understand thier language.

First of all japanese is a wonderful language to listen too,nothing against english but japanense rocks.

Most importantly the original language is allways better, i mean if i watch an american movie, i dont go and get the dubbed version in german or something.....