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Post by **Sandman** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 7:24 pm

Which is why he hasn't posted since November of 06... good ridence to all those who turn there back on the best manga out there.... oh yeah welcome new comers hope you enjoy the forum.

Post by **psi29a** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 8:00 pm

Sandman wrote:Which is why he hasn't posted since November of 06... good ridence to all those who turn there back on the best manga out there.... oh yeah welcome new comers hope you enjoy the forum.

umm, ever heard of femtov2? Same guy, post a few hours ago...

Post by **Istvan** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:25 pm

I don't know why he bothers to keep posting, given how much he claims to have come to dislike the present nature of Berserk.

Post by **LordMune** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:58 pm

Istvan wrote:I don't know why he bothers to keep posting, given how much he claims to have come to dislike the present nature of Berserk.

Hey, fuck you buddy.

j/k

Post by **Istvan** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:26 pm

Hey, fuck you buddy.

You're just biased because you're his favorite.

Also j/k

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 2:43 pm

I mean I could understand why he would start to dislike the manga. Things haven't felt right to me either. Things don't feel as meaningful in the story as it used to. It's like the story isn't going anywhere. He left us in the same town for over 6 months and this Caska thing has really gotten boring to me. I still love the manga and think it's the best thing out there even in it's worst (to me) moment. I've kept myself from reading the last 4 or 5 releases, but they are on my comp. When I get up to 10 unread releases I'll check out what's happening. I'm just keeping up with the American releases right now.

Post by **Libaax** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 3:32 pm

I feel the same, Berserk at worst is better 99% of the mangas out there.

Its just alittle sad that the story isnt as good as before. But i am sure it will become at its best again when more things start to happen.

The last three realeses i havent cared enough to read direct as i have been doing for years. Its not as urgent to read it anymore and in another i wish to save a couple of chapters so i can read more at once.

Post by **psi29a** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:00 pm

I think we need to revisit the volumes when they are released because I think the story slide is skewed by the long chapter releases.

Miura labeled it the 'The Golden Age' for a reason. The newer story arcs are causality in motion.

Post by **Aldarion** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:00 pm

The first time I read Berserk I felt the same way as you, that it hasn't been as good as it was. But now that I've read it all again, I've started to appreciate the later chapters more. There are moments when shivers went down my spine.. It's just that, reading it chapter by chapter, waiting all the time, it takes some of the good feeling away.
And while it might be true that the arcs are getting longer, it's not as aimless as it used to be. Having only Guts, the sword and the monsters, the story was a little bit onesided. I just can't wait for the story to advance now, more than ever.

Post by **Libaax** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:17 pm

psi29a wrote:I think we need to revisit the volumes when they are released because I think the story slide is skewed by the long chapter releases.

Miura labeled it the 'The Golden Age' for a reason. The newer story arcs are causality in motion.

Thats a factor but not the hole truth.

Even when i read the start of the arcs with Farnese,Serpico that started all this. The manga had lost alittle of its spark even then.

The biggest factor is that pre eclipse the manga was amazingly good and thats hard to beat not matter how good its now or in the future.

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:12 pm

I just think the whole Berserk armor thing is where I started to get iffy about the series. It just felt like it was put there so that the manga would be more EXTREME or something. But seeing as how Miura thinks ahead of things I know it has it's purpose. It just felt better to me when I knew it was him that was doing the killing and not the armor.

Don't get me wrong about character and story development. I love it. It's just that when it takes 6 months to show 2 days in a town... that's just ridiculous. Part of me wishes that he would hire artists to draw for him, but the other part knows that they would never be able to do what Miura has done in terms of shear detail. They'd turn the artwork into something with flatness like Naruto or Bleach.

I guess what the big problem is that I don't have a large chunk of Berserk to sit down and read like I used to and I don't want to have wait another 4 years to sit down and read another chunk of story. It wouldn't be bad at all though if we were able to read this weekly or bi-weekly. But now we're lucky if we get one new chapter ever 2 months.

To tell you the truth though. If I made the kind of money Miura did and busted my ass to practically make every panel a work of art in my comic, I would take frequent breaks too.

Post by **psi29a** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:24 pm

The good news is that new berserk next week, and we at EG are busy getting ready for that big day.

Post by **MrFelony** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:06 pm

ya, i definitely agree with you about the armor being extreme. but i guess you could say that about the dragonslayer too

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:16 pm

Yeah, but at least he didn't need magical powers to swing it around. In fact, he was so manly and brutal that the sword became magical through shear ass kickary.

Post by **Libaax** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 10:01 pm

Dragonslayer isnt extreme cause its not magical to become strong enough to wield a big sword, specially if you train and fight it with your hole life like Guts did. Heck its fantasy, the big sword is almost a must.

Darken:

Once again i agree fully, the armour and the hole thing it does to guts the magical and inner struggle thing is what made me think "what the heck this isnt Berserk" I think Muira made a huge mistake with it but nobody is perfect.

Post by **Istvan** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:04 pm

In fact, he was so manly and brutal that the sword became magical through shear ass kickary.

That's one of my favorite parts of the later parts of Berserk, the fact that he killed so many astral beings that the sword has become specialized against astral beings. I just think that's really cool, and is presumably part of the reason for how Gutts will eventually be able to kill Griffith.

Post by **Libaax** » Sat Mar 31, 2007 12:30 am

That would be awesome, seeing Griffith freak out cause Dragonslayer can hurt him.

Then he would die knowing even though he was a god Guts was better thats so sweet i can taste it

Post by **Istvan** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:31 am

I'm really looking forward to the eventual showdown between those two (although it will be years, or even decades before it happens), I expect it to be cool on so many different levels.

Post by **Libaax** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:32 am

It better be cool cause we will be waiting for several years

Post by **Istvan** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:20 pm

Well, can you actually even imagine Miura not making such an event cool? Personally, I can't.

Post by **MrFelony** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 1:51 am

you really don't think that the dragonslayer isnt the least put extreme? i mean...seriously its an EXTREME sword. I'm not saying its at the same level as the armor, just that it is an acceptable form of extreme

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 3:22 am

Yeah... but the sword isn't doing the work for him like the armor does.

Post by **MrFelony** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:47 am

you mean its not...i cant think of a word that describes it well enough...we'll go with a mixture of massacre and pulverizing apostles, never breaking, being so massive and powerful that it can be used to break some of the hardest materials on earth... i see where you're coming from, but it is a pretty extreme thing.

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:17 am

Everything in Berserk is extreme. It's just with the armor it made it seem like he (Miura) was trying to keep up with other mangas and their character's "new found relics" or "powers". I just lose the sense of Guts winning by his own strength. That and the pace of the story is just getting drawn out. Like I said before... 6 months to show what happened in a town for 2 days. It's not just one thing that's bothering me with Berserk.

Post by **Buzkashi** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 5:58 am

Maybe he didnt want to end the novel with Gutts dieing and saw giving him relics or whateverthefuck is the only way to make sure that he kills griffith. Iono..