Evil Genius

panic wrote:hey bud's..
any idea bout oro's sub? he gave up on subbing huh?
..i mean comon, at least post some info bout 256

I am pretty sure it is in the FAQ but....

No bitching about release times, he will get it done when he can get it done.

Do something else with your time, liek read other mangas or go out and have a life. I currently have not noticed the delay because I am hardly home at all, and when I am its doing my turns for newage3.

Arresty wrote:Do something else with your time, liek read other mangas or go out and have a life.

Exactly, remember folks, this is a free service Oro and EG does for us. Don't look a gift horse in the mouth and bitch about release times.

you can but i dont think you'll be getting horses as gifts anymore. start expecting toasters and blenders. i dont have a life at the moment cause i choose to sit idly away before real life catches back up (starting a job soon >.<)

Yes, you have no idea how many times I tell people to fuck off on IRC. Really, don't bitch for a free service. Unless you pay us or make some 'donations', you don't have a right to complain. Start your own group with your own translators and editors if you see a problem. Status on the project is frozen until Nazgul comes back.

My friend works for a BT group that does TV shows. I know the proper etiquette.

panic wrote:hey bud's..
any idea bout oro's sub? he gave up on subbing huh?
..i mean comon, at least post some info bout 256, if you are still considering to sub or not,
or just say "forget bout it! no 256 this time!"
after such ending as 255 had you still keep people waiting!?

Aw, if you go on saying that enough I'm sure someone will give you a pity blowjob.

I know I don't post much. but I'm here every day lurking around waiting for something new reading the opinions (laughing at a few of them). But when someone starts bitching about the great things Evil G and his bunch do, I see it as a good time to say thanks, THANK YOU for what you do and how you do it. I mean school, good grades, your future or getting a bunch of hard up fanboys there fix, hard choice. Take your time get to, Please get to, but at your own pace most of us can wait. Now I'll return to my Life and leave you good people alone.

Arresty wrote:Do something else with your time, liek read other mangas or go out and have a life. I currently have not noticed the delay because I am hardly home at all, and when I am its doing my turns for newage3.

im too busy re-readin bleach

dos.azn wrote:
im too busy re-readin bleach

Ya, you're a bleach-freak....

But seriously, there's tons of good manga out there to spend time on while waiting for the next berserk chapter. For people who don't like bleach try Vagabond or BOTI, or something totally different like Eden, Appleseed, Blame, Monster. Even good old Rouroni Kenshin.

All of these are more or less available easily.

Thinking about the things I asked earlier I have come to some conclusions myself.... sort of.

I still do not understand why Guts would sleep with that female demon in the beginning. It seems a bit out of character for him now, but when Mirua was doing the first volume Guts's character still hadn't come into its own. So maybe Mirua took a liberty and chose to begin the manga like that because that was a cool way of starting it, which it was. He is boinking some hot chick and then blam, wham bam thank you mam! Honesly, how many of us haven't been temptet to do that just so we could avoid the post-orgasm pillow talk? Just me then? That's fair....

As for the Griffith thing, I find it hard to believe that Griffith was destroyed by his abandonment by Guts because it interfered with his future plans. First of all, at that point Griffith's plans had all but come to a conclusion. He had already become a noble and was one of the most revered people in all of midland. The ground was still hot from the scorched remains of his only noteworthy adversaries. He had fallen into the king's favor and he had managed to sweep the princess off of her feet.

Guts knew all of this. He knew that Griffiths plans had all come into fruition and all he needed now was to wait for everything to fall in place and be declared a king. For all intents and purposes he no longer had any dire need for Guts as a tool. So Guts chose that time to leave Griffith for a multitude of reasons, among which was that all the politics and controversy of a noble life was just not something for him. Sure, Griffith could think of a lot of good uses for a reliable man like Guts, but with Griffiths extraordinary skills for strategy and planning he could no doubt continue on just as well without him. There is no doubt in my mind about that.

I also don't agree with the sentiment that Griffith liked Guts so much because he had come to depend on him so much. First of all Griffith was a brilliant tactician, and any good tactician plans for all possible outcomes. So Griffith had no doubt plans for what to do if Guts should fail and get killed by an enemy in some random raid, not matter how unlikely it was. Second of all, Griffiths mysterious fascination with Guts traces back to their very first encounter (v04c04p173) where Griffith tells Guts "I like you." and "I want you.". This was way before Guts had proven how valuable an asset he was.

This pisses Casca off specially because those words spoken by Griffith was something he had never used about anyone before, not even about her who so loved him. And even before that he made Casca sleep naked next to Guts to save his life. He had always until that moment treated everyone in his Band of Hawk equally, like tools to be used by him and nothing more. Guts was the first person Griffith had ever made such a emotional connection with.

If Griffith was gay (which many a hater would frantically have you believe) then I would call his obsession with Guts love at first sight. Alas I don't think that Griffith was gay, but I do believe he did love him, though it was not a carnal kind of love.

That could help explain why he was so crushed when Guts left him. Sleeping with the princess was just about the stupidest thing he could have done at that time. I think he did it equally because he wanted to ease the pain of his breakup by finding solace in someone else's embrace and equally because he wanted to destroy himself (Otherwise then why not just sleep with Casca?).

Sure, he was caught off-guard without a weapon by the palace guards upon returning from his late night rendezvous with the princess. But being as strong as he is he could easily have stolen one of their swords and killed them all, they were after all pussies compared to Griffiths previous opponents. He wanted to be caught, he wanted to be punished and destroyed. He was in despair.

I am sure there is fancy psychological term for people wanting to destroy themselves after a breakup, but I don't know it. But I believe Griffith was suffering from it.

Another contributing factor could have been the fact that Griffith for the first time in his life experienced the bitter taste of defeat. Until then all of his plans had always worked out flawlessly as if the world would ever dance to the melodious tune of his tactics. Then for the first time in his life things did not turn like he had planned them. He perhaps knew that Guts would one day try and leave him but he was confident that he could defeat him and thereby force him to remain with him. But not only did his plan fail, but for the first time he had been defeated in battle also. (Ok, maybe the fight against Zodd was technically also a loss, but Zodd was a fairytale monster and no human opponent).

So in conclusion, Griffiths one sided love for Guts ended up ruining everything for him. Or so I think.

That's a lot of analysis, and it doesn't contradict anything I've thought about the manga, I don't know what was posted her so far.

Although I'm not sure he could have easily gotten rid of the guards. Fighting unarmed against a group of people trained with swords is really something different then when he had a sword himself.

Brainpiercing wrote:Although I'm not sure he could have easily gotten rid of the guards. Fighting unarmed against a group of people trained with swords is really something different then when he had a sword himself.

Come on man. We are talking about Griffith here. He managed to chop off one of Zodd's arms when he came to Guts's rescue. He cut it clean off, no joke, and I bet not one of those hundred or so soldiers whom Zodd had just killed even managed to scratch a hair on his muscular bovine body. Zodd is just about as menacing as a army of 1.000.000 guards. It was just a question of Griffith punching one of those wussy guards square in the face and knick his sword in the confusion. How many of those royal guards was it that Guts killed while breaking Griffith out, again? Griffith could have done it just as easily as brushing that manly golden mane of his away from his eyes. He just didn't want to, but then again he did reach for his sword, but maybe that was just a reflex.

Anywaste, I always thought that Griffith was brought down way too easily for my taste. Unless that is, that my speculations hold water, which we'll never know.

So you don't believe he saw Gattsu as an equal and a friend (where he'd known none before), but you believe he was in love with him? Don't you kind of have to believe the prior two in order to feel the latter?

Gattsu's unpredictability was something that Griffith understood and factored in very early in their relationship. That was part of his fascination, as is explicated when he stops Caska from tearing the metaphorical new one on Gattsu after the first battle post 3 year lapse. He simply neglected to factor that unpredictability in concerning their own personal relationship, and I think that's what truly broke his spirit.

I wouldn't say he believed he'd tamed that aspect of Gattsu to his own expectations, but I think he had turned from believing he could climb the bodies regardless of who they were for a while with Gattsu. That's why it was necessary for the Godhand to show him the true spirit of his entire ordeal in the past-looking memory. He strayed from his dream because Gattsu affected him to the core as a friend and a kindred spirit, and when this one and only equal chose to use his unpredictability to escape Griffith's hold, this had a catastrophic effect on his personality.

The result: self-deprecating decline, as the psychologist would say. He became overwhelmed, and his ambition and his depression clashed.

Fighting against an entire regiment of Midland gaurds couldn't save his ambition when they pressed a ring of steel halberds around his neck, and even if it could, the King couldn't just forget about that one guy that tapped his unhealthily beloved daughter. He was faced with a no-win situation, and perhaps his depression stayed his hand as his internal helplessness at losing Gattsu manifested physically with the crashing of his ambition down around him. It was because of this alone that he was able to commit even Gattsu's life to the sacrificial brand in the end.

Gattsu, on the other hand, did absolutely believe that Griffith was set into the culmination of his path. That's why he thought the lines about "You'll get past this, it's like a pebble in the road." It was Griffith's own misunderstanding of himself that left him unable to be patient, to reap his sown manifestations.

Griffiss makes alot of good points in contradiction to what you say, but in the future leave discussions like this for http://www.evil-genius.us/forums/viewtopic.php?t=806. That thread is for newbie discussions, we have covered most of this many times over. I don't feel like discussing most of my opinionis right now, too lazy, but I believe that grffith could not have gotten out of the fight, or the odds were against him. Griffith for starters had no weapon, and it woudl have been hard to get one. Think of Guts when he fought 100 men, he didn't get out of that unharmed and he had a sword from the beginning, and is better at fighting multople opponents than griffith. Griffith is much more of a 1 on 1 fighter then guts is.

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*right click....save image as* good shit

Wow, you guys really need 256...

Since Nazgul's not here and people has been annoying on both IRC and forums, I've decided to release my own chapter 256 until Nazgul comes back. This is a 'substitute' copy until Nazgul's back in action and releases an EG 256. Again, I don't care if my work is shit, don't read it if you think so. I did this real quick as to not come to conflict with my study. I did notice some mistakes, like some of the phasing I should have used to portray the meaning better. Heh, no feedback is absolutely necessary...

http://s26.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0OSJ ... ZHDL555RGX

I uploaded it on yousendit. If you want to host it or something, it'll be cool. Hopefully this will make the most of you satisfied and stop bitching about release dates.

I know it's not necessary but after the desperate waiting, and even after 'watched' (can't say reading) the same [UR]DAN raw 3 days ago, all I can say is:

"hey it's nice, thanks".

And then:

"now I'll be more mad about the next chapter ;+)".

Heh, Eldo that's pretty nice of you. However, I think I'll pass and get the good one when it comes out. Still a nice present for those hardcore "impationists"

Your nice Eldo, I would have just kept telling people to shut the fuck up.

Seriously people, I thought it was common knowledge. Don't bitch about release dates.

Meh, I didn't care much about it, I just wanted to test out photoshop and my editing skills. I'm slowly learning photoshop. I'm planning to be an editor as well, to lessen the workload of the other members.

cool, thanks eldo. i didnt mind the wait. its like being celibite. once you get used to it you dont mind it but given the chance fuck it .

Eldo wrote:Meh, I didn't care much about it, I just wanted to test out photoshop and my editing skills. I'm slowly learning photoshop. I'm planning to be an editor as well, to lessen the workload of the other members.

I hear ya, I hear ya. But I am still going to wait for the EG release though.