Fighters Discussion

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 9:16 pm

Sweet A.B.A. action

Oswald looks smooth.

Post by **Ayanami** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 2:12 am

Your pic or link is broke.

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:25 am

Japanese are playing NGBC right now and having lots of fun -_-. But I've heard mixed reviews about the game saying that it plays too much like SVC...and that is one broke ass game.

Post by **Ayanami** » Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:29 am

I will not mind it if it plays like SVC, as long as it is not broke like SVC.

Post by **Femto** » Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:34 pm

3rd Strike Evo 2005 results:

1st - Ohnuki (Chun-Li) - [Japan]
2nd - Justin Wong (Chun-Li)
3rd - Nitto (Yun)
4th - Mester (Yun)
5th - Ricky O. (Chun-Li) / Kokujin (Dudley)
7th - RF (Chun-Li) / MOV (Chun-Li)

PS: It's not just the brokenness that makes SVC a terrible game, it's the horrible hitboxes, the fireball whoring, the lame sound effects, the empty backgrounds, heck, the whole engine in general makes it a piss-poor fighting game. The game has "rushed" written all over it, easily the worst post-SNK game so far.

Post by **Ayanami** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:06 am

Femto wrote:PS: It's not just the brokenness that makes SVC a terrible game, it's the horrible hitboxes, the fireball whoring, the lame sound effects, the empty backgrounds, heck, the whole engine in general makes it a piss-poor fighting game. The game has "rushed" written all over it, easily the worst post-SNK game so far.

I know, I know, I meant the look and feel. Not the broke ass hit box problems, and teh crazy ass fire ball whoring. I also agree that the sounds and backgrounds were piss poor. But it had some cool sprites, and like you said, the main reason that it was not good was because it was rushed to all high hell. I am not too worried about it, but if it sucks, oh well.

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 3:50 pm

Fuck all this other SHIT!!!!

Here are THE TWO games that will dominate this year's JAMMA in Sept.

STREET FIGHTER IV (Atomiswave) HOLY MOTHER FUCK AFTER 8 long years!
and
VIRTUA FIGHTER V (LindBergh)

I won't believe it until I see some screen shots of SFIV. This was also hinted in the San Diego Comic Convention by an Udon rep before the Japanese arcade retailers released the list of games that would appear at Jamma. I wonder if it will be 3-D...It would be Capcom's first 3d Street Fighter (The EX series was made by Arika so shut the hell up). I doubt it will be 3-D since it's using the Atomiswave board. If they were making a 3-D game I think they would go with something a little more powerful than that...well anyway I'm not holding my breath for shit.

Post by **TheDarkness** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:08 pm

well i hope this new street fighter game will get one hell of a graphics overhaul compared to the last ones because that looks like crap.. not a thing improved from the original Street Fighter games...

Post by **Ayanami** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:42 pm

TheDarkness wrote:well i hope this new street fighter game will get one hell of a graphics overhaul compared to the last ones because that looks like crap.. not a thing improved from the original Street Fighter games...

Are you implying that SFIII 3rd Strike does not look improved? Not only does 3rd Strike look 100 times better than SFII hyper fuck edition or what ever, it is probably the best looking 2D fighter on the planet. Not only that, but there is a ton of fighting engine improvements and changes compared to SFII.

Post by **Tempest** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:48 pm

Ayanami wrote:
TheDarkness wrote:well i hope this new street fighter game will get one hell of a graphics overhaul compared to the last ones because that looks like crap.. not a thing improved from the original Street Fighter games...
Are you implying that SFIII 3rd Strike does not look improved? Not only does 3rd Strike look 100 times better than SFII hyper fuck edition or what ever, it is probably the best looking 2D fighter on the planet. Not only that, but there is a ton of fighting engine improvements and changes compared to SFII.

Word. I love the look of SFIII 3rd Strike, and the engine is quite a bit better than SFII.

And after seeing those EVO results, Femto, do you know if Daigo participated this year? I should think if he did he would have at least made it into the top 8.

I should that he was at least there, and maybe didn't participate in SFIII.

Post by **halfnhalf** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 5:59 pm

Tempest wrote:
Ayanami wrote:
TheDarkness wrote:well i hope this new street fighter game will get one hell of a graphics overhaul compared to the last ones because that looks like crap.. not a thing improved from the original Street Fighter games...
Are you implying that SFIII 3rd Strike does not look improved? Not only does 3rd Strike look 100 times better than SFII hyper fuck edition or what ever, it is probably the best looking 2D fighter on the planet. Not only that, but there is a ton of fighting engine improvements and changes compared to SFII.
Word. I love the look of SFIII 3rd Strike, and the engine is quite a bit better than SFII.

And after seeing those EVO results, Femto, do you know if Daigo participated this year? I should think if he did he would have at least made it into the top 8. I should that he was at least there, and maybe didn't participate in SFIII.

word on the street is that he wasnt there... dont take my word...

Post by **TheDarkness** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:04 pm

if that is the best looking 2d fighter in the world then i am curious as to what you think is the second best and what is the worst. In terms of graphics there are older games that look far better.... search for rise of the robots.

Post by **Tempest** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:18 pm

TheDarkness wrote:if that is the best looking 2d fighter in the world then i am curious as to what you think is the second best and what is the worst. In terms of graphics there are older games that look far better.... search for rise of the robots.

I don't know if I'd call SFIII the best looking fighter ever, but for a 2-D fighter it is quite good looking. The only one I could think that would graphically look better might be Guilty Gear XX, and that is just a matter of opinion.

And as for Rise of the Robots... meh, If this is the game you are talking of:

I don't think it looks graphically good at all. But comparing this to SFIII is like apples to oranges. It's a 2-D fighter, but it has 3-D like graphics. The best thing to do compare it to would be the genre it is trying to look like, a 3-D fighter, such as the Soul Calibur series or Tekken, or another 2.5-D fighter like Killer Instinct.

Also having looked around the reviews from some gaming sites around the web, it wasn't a good game at all, with stellar reviews titles as "This makes Shaq-Fu look good" and "Looking for an innovating and exciting fighting game? Then don't look here!", I don't think I'd play it even if I thought it looked that good.

Post by **Ayanami** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:37 pm

There are a lot of games that look like complete and utter shit. Rise of the Robots happens to be one of them. Others include the mighty Criticom, Rise2, (That's right, they made a second Rise of the Robots) and I think it is called Ragnegard or something for the Neo. (Not too sure the name because I try to forget about it.)

Tempest wrote:I don't know if I'd call SFIII the best looking fighter ever, but for a 2-D fighter it is quite good looking. The only one I could think that would graphically look better might be Guilty Gear XX, and that is just a matter of opinion.

I believe Femto covered this before. GGXX looks like shit compared to SFIII. Look at the animation closely on the characters and you shall see. What makes GGXX so pretty to people is the high res animation and all the pretty flashes and shit.

Other well done 2D fighters in the graphics department would have to be games like MOTW, Vampire Savior, and Last Blade 2.

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 6:40 pm

last blade and vampire savior look like shit to me when compared t SFIII or GGX. Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore. I want my SFIV and VFV. Forget everything else.

The Rise of the Robots thing made me laugh...

After seeing the new Samurai Shodown and NGBC vidz...they look pretty damn hot too. Especially Robert from NGBC, his new animations kick ass.

Post by **halfnhalf** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 10:30 pm

http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

yah darken's right SF4 on atomiswave. Isnt atomiswave like just ok...?

Shouldnt it be on naomi or cps3?

whats 3S on? im thinking its on cps3...

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Wed Aug 17, 2005 11:49 pm

OK... CPS3 is weaker than Naomi. Atomiswave is basically a Naomi board or Naomi 2 board... I don't remember which.

3rd Strike was on CPSIII

Post by **Femto** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 1:14 am

DarkenRahlX wrote:last blade and vampire savior look like shit to me when compared t SFIII or GGX.

HAHAHAHAHAHHA!

I'm sorry, I know I said we should stay out of each other's ways, but I can't help it. You really are fucking retarded and don't know shit of the things you're talking about.

Last Blade better than Guilty Gear? Why? Because it has twice the resolution? That's fucking laughable. Saying that Last Blade or Vampire Savior look like shit next to GGX is the talk of idiots. 3rd Strike maybe, and a big maybe here, but GGX has worse animation than fucking KOF. MOTW fucking destroys GGX, and the sprites are even smalller than the KOF ones.

Then again, saying that Robert's new animations in NGBC kick ass explaing how much you know about this stuff.

Post by **halfnhalf** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 5:13 pm

Femto wrote:
DarkenRahlX wrote:last blade and vampire savior look like shit to me when compared t SFIII or GGX.
HAHAHAHAHAHHA!

I'm sorry, I know I said we should stay out of each other's ways, but I can't help it. You really are fucking retarded and don't know shit of the things you're talking about.

Last Blade better than Guilty Gear? Why? Because it has twice the resolution? That's fucking laughable. Saying that Last Blade or Vampire Savior look like shit next to GGX is the talk of idiots. 3rd Strike maybe, and a big maybe here, but GGX has worse animation than fucking KOF. MOTW fucking destroys GGX, and the sprites are even smalller than the KOF ones.

Then again, saying that Robert's new animations in NGBC kick ass explaing how much you know about this stuff.

I've been wondering, what has GGXX done to you? You express so much hate and try to point out the smallest detail. Does slower animation in a sprite hinder your ability to enjoy a game?

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 6:41 pm

He just probably gets raped in GG everytime he plays it. Vampire Savior and Last Blade don't look that great to me. They look dated. Man...you act like I just said those games suck. Well I'm sure you think Jojo's Bizarre Adventure looks great since it is similar in style. Robert's new standing animation looks smooth. NGBC, Samurai Shodown Tenkai, and KOFXI still look dated though.

Having twice the resolution makes the game look better does it not? I don't care if it doesn't have tons of animation like 3rd Strike. It still looks great and is a fast paced game.

Femto wrote:Last Blade better than Guilty Gear? Why? Because it has twice the resolution? That's fucking laughable.

I think you mean "Guilty Gear better than Last Blade?" The way you say it makes it sound as if you're defending Guilty Gear, which I know you're not doing. And there is no MAYBE with 3rd Strike. 3rd Strike puts those games to shame in the animation area. Anyone with glasses as big as yours should be able to see that. You mucked up you're retort towards me. Next time try not to look like a fool. Instead of jumping on me you should be jumping on the guy who made the comment about Rise of the Robots.

Post by **halfnhalf** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:03 pm

Now if we want the best looking fighter, and somewhat decently balanced...

thats on atomiswave... man SF4 should look like this...

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:13 pm

Rumble Fish 2 looks and moves better than the original...but I don't want SFIV to use that style...Don't even know if SFIV will be 2D...Don't even know if SFIV even exists. It's just on that stupid list.

Post by **TheDarkness** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:17 pm

if there are rumors about street fighter 4 then they will probably be on Shoryuken.com so if you want to know register at their forum and search

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:18 pm

The list is on shoryuken.com

Post by **TheDarkness** » Thu Aug 18, 2005 7:23 pm

yeah but that is just it... i did a google search and i found this post on some other forum

DON'T SCREW THIS UP CAPCOM!!!

At the San Diego Comic Convention, Udon Comics confirmed something is in the works for the next generation of street fighter. Here's what some people who attended the ultimate street fighter panel had to say.

"I actually attended that panel, so I can confirm what he said is true. It's more like Udon rep answered the question (saying something is in the works), then Capcom USA rep followed up on it, saying Capcom has not forgotten its fans and is working on something. At the end of panel, Udon rep said if you have interesting ideas (i.e. fighting system, not storyline or anything non-technical) for the next SF game, post your ideas on Shoryuken.com."

Anyone who really... REALLY... follows the SF series know that this game has been in the works for a long long time. around the time SF3: 3rd strike was released there was talks that the next street fighter wont be released until 2007 cause of some goofy timeline capcom uses for their games (which explains the constant spin offs of the 90's between SF2 and SF 3).

...

I really hope capcom doesnt screw this up

taht is why i said that you should check their forum for rumors or even confirmed things (if there are such things)