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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 7:23 pm
by Shisho
psi29a wrote:I read the thread to be 'Miura is one sexy bastard'. 8)

Thanks swallow for adding a lil life to the forums.

PS: wasurera, if ya gotta add more info, then edit your last post. No need to post again unless someone responded to you.
Yeah I read it as "sexiest".

Believe me his work illustrates more than sexist behavior. (In reality if he was to be accurate of the middle ages there wouldn't be a Casca the warrior.) I think it's amusing that people are still stupid enough to believe what people portray in their comics expresses their personal opinions, or is in some way true to real life.

If you were actually interested in his real opinion you might try reading his interview to get a better understanding of how he created Berserk. He's an observer of sorts.

Ignore the ethereal beings and magic, we're concerned about the facts of a period and that there might be a woman in the story who is adversely affected by it.

By this account he's also a child molester.

Is he sexist, or the sexiest? I don't know and I don't really care, as it won't stop me from reading or enjoying Berserk.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:53 am
by Fuji Nagase
so even if you were fucking with us, i still have to give my 2 cents. you see, i dont give a rat's ass if you just said you were fucking with us b/c you got burnt by the flame so listen up.

swallow,
if you are indeed a woman, then you must know that all women experience their periods differently. some can barely feel it while other are bed ridden for 2 weeks and it doesn't matter how kick ass they may be, they just cant get up.

caska is one of the most non cliche kick ass female characters in most anime/manga. it is so disrespectful to call miura a sexist when if anything, he redeems women of that time.

caska is NOT a victim of sexism.



if you are so set on bitching about sexism and enlightening all of the evil men, you would do yourself a favor and find a REAL problem. ...maybe in REAL life.




if you want to worry about what is not realistic in berserk , why not question the otherworldly creatures, the behlit, or even the eclipse? instead you question a personal and very subjective physical reaction to a fictional character's period.

so there. i hope this thread burns in hell. i dont want to think about how useless and unneeded it is.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 3:38 am
by swallow
Sortep wrote:Understand Swallow, the nads of the Sortep are the hardest material in the universe. So feel free to break your foot upon them. Other than that, I just got a little riled up because I can't stand when people pull the "Selective Woman Card." But otherwise, happy menstruation! :twisted:
I didn't find anything you said offensive, that kick in the 'nads is for a completely different reason. What you plated them in copper?

I'm sorry if you're pissed Fuji, the main reason I started the thread was because I was bored at work - what was I supposed to do, finish off my paperwork instead of pointlessly antagonising people on the internet? (There's a reason that Australia has one of the lowest productivity rates in the world.)

If you want Psi, please give me an 'Don't mind me I'm a dumbass' title, I'll wear it with a degree of pride. I've been feeling like a dumbass lately (not for fucking around on the forum mind you, just life in general).

Oh, and that offer of hot cocoa is still up.

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 5:31 am
by Sortep
No, the nads are solid titanium... unfortunately it's genetic... women call me the "chin breaker" .... i'm simply curious why i deserve a kick to the nads? why would someone desecrate the illustrious sortep? penguins like me damnit!

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 1:28 pm
by psi29a
swallow wrote:If you want Psi, please give me an 'Don't mind me I'm a dumbass' title, I'll wear it with a degree of pride. I've been feeling like a dumbass lately (not for fucking around on the forum mind you, just life in general).

Oh, and that offer of hot cocoa is still up.
I'll take that hot cocoa. I enjoyed the thread, so no need for the title. That is reserved for when everyone agrees a person deserves it.

Whatever gets people talking and more or less about interesting shit. 8)

:worship:

Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 2:31 pm
by Khelegond
swallow wrote:And if you really wanted to win that fencing competition, you could have just shat your pants rather than running to the bathroom all the time, but considering the spectators, it was probably for the best that you didn't. :?
Nah, it wasn't a 'shit factor'. It was the colics that kicked in. Sweating, feeling abdominal pain (in a sport where you keep moving and twisting your torso all the time) was painfull :)

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:05 pm
by Kanzetsu
I lol'd
Great little read about a pointless debate there, made my 4am =D

Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:19 pm
by Brainpiercing
Kanzetsu wrote:I lol'd
Great little read about a pointless debate there, made my 4am =D
At least it was mildly interesting, unlike some post I just read.

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:24 am
by Lady Envy
Meh. Some girls get sick when they have their period. I do.

I don't think that part was exactly sexist. The only thing I find sexist in Berserk is the fact that Casca gets raped so much.

Of course it wouldn't matter. But you'd need energy for a battle. And your energy would be low if you were dealing with some bad cramps.

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:59 am
by Shisho
I don't know if you noticed, everyone gets raped in Berserk.

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:56 am
by Brainpiercing
That's actually true. Well... partly - did Isidoro get raped? Maybe not him.

And all those other guys, they don't get raped, either, Farnese and Serpico. Nor does Puck, unfortunately.

So it should be: Every old main character gets raped. Even Griff got buttfucked, albeit for money.

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:16 am
by Ollie
swallow wrote:There's not an emoticon out there which can show how much I'm laughing right now. Some of you realised I was screwing with you... others not so much. Except I still want to kick Sortep in the 'nads - only as a sign of affection mind you.
Aww, and here I was, thinking that you were an angry lesbian. I was about to recommend you to one of my female friends, too. ):

Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 1:35 pm
by Eldo
Ollie wrote:Aww, and here I was, thinking that you were an angry lesbian. I was about to recommend you to one of my female friends, too. ):
You can, uh, introduce her to me. Just out of curiousity. I'll set her straight.

As for Casca getting raped so much, she's not the only exception. Most women in the manga gets raped pretty excessively, although they're more like trivial and secondary characters. At first, I hated Farnese, but now I'm starting to grow attached to her.

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:27 am
by Shisho
Brainpiercing wrote:That's actually true. Well... partly - did Isidoro get raped? Maybe not him.

And all those other guys, they don't get raped, either, Farnese and Serpico. Nor does Puck, unfortunately.

So it should be: Every old main character gets raped. Even Griff got buttfucked, albeit for money.
They just haven't shown the flashbacks is all.

Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:25 am
by Brainpiercing
Ah, what the world is waiting for : THE SHOCKING PUCK SEX VIDEO!!!

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 9:24 pm
by Lungs
Hahaha! Puck sex! That'll be pathetic... I feel ashamed having read it.

I think one of the funniest thing about feminism is when females try and call men sexist... ahhh! What's going on there, eh. A waste of time, I think. Say I'm slapping some 'bitch's' 'ass', and she turns round and calls me sexist (or chauvinistic, or socially retarded)... should I reply to that by castrating myself and start hanging out in male locker rooms - knowing that an epiphany, regarding gender difference, is but an arm's reach away. WHAT THE FUCK. See? How does that make sense. It doesn't. If someone calls you sexist, you call them sexist. And hopefully the argument closes. Nothing else will work.

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:57 pm
by Sarah
I haven't read all the posts but to reply to the earlier ones.. Not every woman gets as bad as Caska did in that scene but some do (I do!) I related to her in those moments more then thinking it was pathetic :o

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:14 pm
by MrFelony
lol i thought this was SarahofBorg posting for a sec. i was like "oh she's back?" :lol:

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:18 pm
by Sarah
MrFelony wrote:lol i thought this was SarahofBorg posting for a sec. i was like "oh she's back?" :lol:


Sorry to disappoint :p

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:02 am
by Shisho
So how many modern women today go fight rigorously with swords and armor on a grueling battle field on their periods anyway?

A show of hands will do.

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:09 am
by Tempest
Miura and I would like you to Say Hello to Postfeminism (NSFW Image ahead)



Now dance puppets, DANCE!

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 6:56 am
by EnglishJim
Sick!...But true. I hope. :P

Heh, the serious posts keep piling up. When swallow logs in to see this she's gonna laugh her ass off. :lol:

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:04 pm
by Sortep
War is a time of rape... midevil wartime was even more so.. you put a female on the battlefeild... combatants no longer have to go the villages to do their raping.. it's like putting in an express lane.. it's unfortunate but that's how war was back then.. muira paints a picture of how strong caska is because she overcomes (until the eclipse) these challenges... as far as the tentacle stuff goes... i wouldn't be much better off than caska... and i defy someone to say they would be

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:53 pm
by Spiderking
Also another reason she could have fallen is from stress,the rain, doing battle, and leading the men. With her on her period that makes it all that much harder. It wasn't the best reason, but still it does make sense. That she even went to battle is amazing showing just how tough she is I mean she is fighting men and is having to push extremely hard. That is showing how strong she is, she stopped Adon's attacks while other troops got slaughtered by him. That's an example on how tough her character is.

To the rape part of Berserk notice all those who did it are not good people, it is showing how evil and wrong rape is, not one person who had good character did such a thing only people with problems. Rape is also very real it happens all to much because people in reality are not good, always looking for their own self gain over anything else. So it is merely a reflection on human life so we can see how truly vile we are.

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:58 pm
by psi29a
Just so you know, at last in the US, if the person says no at any point in time during sex, it then is not consensual. Even if you stop, the act of pulling out is rape and that person can be charged.

Rape is a serious issue.