Zodd Theory

Post by **Sandman** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:52 am

Hi guys long time no type...

Well from what I see I gather that griffith will send Zodd to kill Guts or his mage (for the live of me I cant spell her name:)) he will fail and Griffith will consider him useless and kill him. Maybe you never know...

Here is a stupid one Guts cuts off his other horn and when Zodd returns to Griffith's side Griffith says "you hornless bastard die!!"

Post by **Shisho** » Mon Jan 02, 2006 12:04 pm

I'm fairly confident that Zodd is the strongest apostle. Grunbeld is most likely an apostle from what we've seen that relies on his toughness and bulk more than his combat skills. He wears armor and uses a shield whereas Zodd is just clothed in leather.

Besides you already seen how Zodd and Grunbeld interact with each other, you know that he respects if not envies Zodd as a fighter/warrior. Zodd is about the only apostle we know of that's been spending centuries fighting and searching for greater challenges.

It's pretty clear in the roles he serves too. He's Griffith's right hand apostle. Shit man he regenerates and flies too. So whatever, he's got it all.

Post by **Istvan** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 12:07 am

I mean he cant get even close to him without bleeding to death,so it doesnt matter how strong he if he doesnt have a way he can get close and hurt Femto.

As I recall, the reason he can't get close is because the pain from the brand is so intense it incapacitates him (and would kill him in time) not because of blood loss. While that is a problem, I had an interesting thought. Isn't one of the powers of the berserk armor that it blocks pain? So maybe Guts can approach Griffith now (this would also explain how the Skull Knight, who was also branded, could attack Void during the eclipse). Of course, there's still the problem of getting close enough to attack someone who can shatter cannonballs by glaring at them.

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 1:24 am

I dont think an armour even if its one like his can help him against Femto. It was Femto who did something and made his brand hurt him more.

Post by **Shisho** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 8:07 am

All I got to say is that fucking showdown is going to be the best thing ever drawn.

Post by **Loeviz** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:33 pm

Maybe Guts will make something out off Zodds other horn to counter Femtos "bleeding effect"

No but honestly here, Guts needs something magical so he can get nearby Femto alive. And I can´t really see Schierke make that item.. Unless the final ending will be when she´s grown up and perhaps gotten a little hawt

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:43 pm

Maybe Skull will give him the thing he needs or tell him how to get it. Since Skull has been able to get close enough to Void to attack.

Post by **Loeviz** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 4:55 pm

Ahh I forgot all about skullknight. Yeah there is a possibility that he will show him how to do so. Perhaps it has something to do with behelits ??

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:06 pm

Maybe Guts will do anything to take down Femto even it means doing something he doesnt want to.

Post by **Skullkracker** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:32 pm

like a sacrafice?
(or f*cking Ashlee Simpson?)

Post by **Artezul** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 5:41 pm

It plausible that Zodd's weakness are his horns?

Post by **Libaax** » Tue Jan 03, 2006 7:25 pm

Skullkracker wrote:like a sacrafice?
(or f*cking Ashlee Simpson?)

He woulndt go that far not even Guts that has slept with a demon would do that

Maybe Zodd will give him something when Guts kills him.

Post by **Istvan** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:26 am

I dont think an armour even if its one like his can help him against Femto. It was Femto who did something and made his brand hurt him more.

Femto didn't have to do anything, that's the problem. Guts brand hurts when supernatural evil gets near. The more powerful/evil it is, the worse it hurts. When he gets to near a God's Hand, the most powerful and evil beings in exhistance, the pain is to intense for him to function. That's why I wonder if the berserk armor will work, since it blocks all pain.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:29 am

The thing is he bled badly and felt extra pain when he saw them but he felt so much more when he tried to move against Femto,that cant be coincidence.

Even that didnt happen and my memory is playing, the armour is useless to him.

If it wasnt Skull would have killed Void a long long time ago.

Post by **Sortep** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:13 am

if it heads to the ending where guts prevails... he and skullknight both need something more to do anything against godhand...

Post by **Shisho** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:20 am

At the moment he has a magical seal on his brand too, and I believe there is a seal in the armor when they prepared it.

I also believe it was both bleeding + pain increase. They said that he'd be incapacitated by the pain and probably bleed to death from the blood pouring out.

It's obviously Void's magic and it's a possibility it was refined after Skull Knight. Maybe his brand doesn't function the same because it was an older version, and Void improved it with this mechanism as a precautionary thing to prevent any other sacrifices from uprising against them. There's usually a reason for why spells work the way they do. It isn't just some mysterious side effect.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:41 pm

Ah thanks shisho for making me remember that they left him for death which normal pain from being close to a God Hand wouldn't do.

Post by **Loeviz** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:35 pm

Yeah but isnt that mark on the berserks armor just for protection from Guts getting totally sucked into the rage and not to protect him from the god hand?

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:55 pm

I think its protecs him from evil spirit too. He wouldnt be able to sleep without it.

Post by **newbified** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:57 pm

Wasn't it the same design that Schierke put on Caska and Gutts before they left in the first place? Before they even came back and recieved the armor?

Post by **Loeviz** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:14 pm

Yeah I think it´s the same mark as Schierke put over Guts and Caskas brands

Post by **Eldo** » Wed Jan 04, 2006 9:06 pm

Casca and Guts has the same charm that minimises the pain felt when encountering a apostle or dark spirit/creature, and in addition, Casca has a magical necklace and Guts has another charm on the Berserk armour (although the charm on the Berserk armour for Guts is to retain his conciousness and not slip to his savagery, the beast).

Post by **Istvan** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:20 am

The thing is he bled badly and felt extra pain when he saw them but he felt so much more when he tried to move against Femto,that cant be coincidence.

Even that didnt happen and my memory is playing, the armour is useless to him.

If it wasnt Skull would have killed Void a long long time ago.

My impression was that the pain increased dramatically the closer he got, so he collapsed from it before reaching sword range. Also, as for Skull Knight, he rarely gets a chance at Void, and if you recall during the eclipse what stopped him wasn't pain/bleeding caused by the brand, it was Void bending space so his own sword came at him. The God Hand are extremely powerful and dangerous even without the brand. I just hypothesize that the armor might block enough pain to allow him to function, defeating Griffith is a whole different matter.

Post by **Shisho** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:34 am

I don't know if it's your guys' grammar, but I'm having a hard time understanding what exactly you're talking about.

Post by **Starnum** » Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:15 am

Shisho wrote:I don't know if it's your guys' grammar, but I'm having a hard time understanding what exactly you're talking about.

That's funny.

Um, I think the Zodd theory is pretty good actually. I could see something like that happening myself. However, I doubt Void ever interacted with the Berserker Armor. Why hinder future Sacrifices, when he could just destroy it. Besides, that would mean he would have had it after Skull Knight, and I doubt that, since it's been with Flora. They said it was created by the dwarves after-all. It may not be enough against the God Hand, and the seals won't help much against them either. No, the God Hand will require yet another level to defeat, I'm sure. That's most likely why Skull Knight gave it up. He's probably ascended above it. However, he may not be enough against all of the God Hand, especially Griffith. Shit, he just now got his new sword, but he hasn't gotten a chance to use it on Void yet. Maybe the two of them could take all five right now, but I doubt it. Now we have the Berserker Armor...but I wonder what comes next.