Evil Genius

I'm probably going to see Silent Hill tonight. I never played the game altought I looked around on the net a bit to infrom myself ( I never go watch a movie before reading some stuff about it).

So I'll probably base my opinion of it on the movie alone without comparisons to the videogame. My twin told me it's good so I'm pretty sure I'l lenjoy it. Seems like the visuals are good and the atmosphere too.

MournfulWoods wrote:............... My twin ...............

cool.

Femto wrote:

Buzkashi wrote:What did you find so bad about it?

Acting, dialogue, storyline, you name it.

- They build up Pyramid Head throughout the whole movie and he amounts to nothing in the end.

- The husband character (forgot his name) contributes absolutely nothing to the story.

- The Silent Hill games are sublte in their horror and the violence was just unnecessarily excessive in the movie.

- Didn't even come close to having the atmosphere found in the games.

- The last 30 minutes or so were the same "here, let me spell out word by word what this whole movie is about" that we see in every single stupid anime.

- That huge cult thing kills the "I'm alone in this strange world" thing the games do so well.

I really could go on.

I guess the music was alright, and Pyramid Head was cool too, despite having nothing to do with the story.

People say it's a good video game movie and I agree with that in places, but that's just proof that there shouldn't be movies based on video games at all.

Just keep both mediums away from each other and spare us the crappy video game movies and the even crappier movie games.

Yea sure it wasn't very scary. But it was still a fun movie to watch. I mean the games did scare me more though. I never actually finished 3.

I also saw a couple movies in the past week:

Silent Hill --- 5/10
Never played the game so I went in not expecting anything. It was suspenseful, but not scary. The violent/gory ending was cool, overall it was nothing special. Rent if interested, otherwise you arent missing much.


RV --- 2/10
Girls are stupid and they talk you into seeing the dumbest movies. Boring family movie with only a couple funny scenes. Best to avoid this one, unless you really like RVs or something... I didnt even get my 7 bucks worth out of her, dammit.


Mission Impossible 3 --- 7/10
Guns, gadgets, explosions, sexy women, and exotic sports cars; its got all the requirements for your basic guy movie. Almost non-stop action and no ridiculously stupid stunts like Transporter 2. Would have given it a point and a half higher if the bastard would have stayed dead, but of course hollywood would never kill off the main character, that would be sad.

Deathbringer wrote:Hostel is fucking awesome, ´nuff said.

Meh. I wasn't that blown away by it. The eyeball thing stuck with me, as did the Achilles thing.

I'm back from watching Silent Hill in Theater and it was good. There's a few anoying things like the fact that the story with the father, without being useless, didn't brought a lot more than closure and hints. The sceneries and visuals were great, the atmosphere was perfect and the music was fitting. So the mood was great.

The story wasn't incredible but it was definetly enjoyable and interesting. Dialogues were good except for 1 or 2 scenes (I didn't like the scene were the father phones the archives, it was kinda rushed and....unnatural).

Violence wasn't excessive at all. I mean, you do realize when watching a horror themed movie that you're going to see some blood. There was some hard stuff, but it's not that much, it's only in some key scenes.

Pyramid Head was really well done. He doesn't do much stuff as Femto said, but does it needs to ? I don'T think so. We don't need another Nemesis-like creature. His parts added to the creepiness, and he didn't become redundant.

I'd give it a 8/10

MournfulWoods wrote:Violence wasn't excessive at all. I mean, you do realize when watching a horror themed movie that you're going to see some blood. There was some hard stuff, but it's not that much, it's only in some key scenes.

I'm sorry, but pulling people's skin off and ripping them apart is unnecessary and adds nothing to the film. The whole scene with the nurses was a fucking joke. Any two-bit director can show exploding brains and chopped entrails and yeah, it's a horror movie, but that doesn't mean you can't be tasteful about it.

You know what creates tension and atmosphere?

Walking through many hallways with no enemies in sight in complete silence and then hear a noise in the backgroung and stumble upon a wheelchair turned to it's side with it's wheels still turning. That'll make you piss your pants, not people you have no attachment to being maimed left and right.

As for Pyramid Head, if he doesn't need to do anything, then what's the point of having him in there? He adds nothing to the movie, except for a couple of "oh, look! it's pyramid head" for people that have played the game. As cool as he was, his role in the movie was completely useless.

Even the visuals, which a lot of people had been raving about, were, save for a couple of things, underwhelming in my eyes.

The movie was extremely lacking, just another bad video game movie when all is said and done.

I could argue about why I think you're wrong. I could take the points your wrote one by one and answer them with my points of view. But I don't think you'd give any credits to what I'm saying.

It was just my own critic of the film.

MournfulWoods wrote:I could argue about why I think you're wrong. I could take the points your wrote one by one and answer them with my points of view. But I don't think you'd give any credits to what I'm saying.

It was just my own critic of the film.

What a worthless reply.

If you liked the movie you should explain why it is so.

You're just some guy with no opinion otherwise.

I could, I could, I could, but you won't.

What the point?

Femto is right in that it was lacking alot of stuff. But I still thought it was a pretty solid movie. And honeslty I enjoyed watching it. There hasn't been much in the horror genre latley anyways. So its not like its super shitty in comparison. Or am I forgetting a movie. I dont know.

Okay then

Femto wrote:If you liked the movie you should explain why it is so.

I said it all in my previous post. If you want me to extract that information from that text, my points would pretty much be :

*Great visuals ( I don't see how you could deny that this movie is pretty. It had good visual effects and a great set of locations. It migth not be the best looking film, but it IS indeed visually well done. )

*great mood, atmosphere ( that would be with the camera work, directing and music (wich I all liked))

*The story was decent, enjoyable, interesting.

*There was good creepy scenes AS WELL as some nice gore scenes (I liked the gore scenes, they made the story looks nasty, It's a type of horror based on gruesome graphics, and it mixed well with the rest of the movie wich was more based on creating tension and atmosphere horror)


Now do you give some credits to my toughts about the movie ?

MournfulWoods wrote:Now do you give some credits to my toughts about the movie ?

God knows why you're so worried about me validating/crediting your opinion, but I'll say only this: play the game.

Yeah, you're probably thinking "why should I have to play the game to enjoy the movie?" and the truth is that it most likely won't make you enjoy the movie. It will however, serve as a ground for comparison and it'll make you realize how much better the movie could've been.

Most of the things you liked about the movie (story, visuals, gore, atmosphere) were average/terrible to me because I've had the game to judge it by.

Why is this necessary?

Because shit would probably taste great if we didn't have honey to compare it to.

Of course, if you're happy with something that is mediocre, then this is all a waste of time.

Oh, why don't we all agree that it's just as bad as Advent Children, but they made the movie to please the hard core fans? I'm not quite sure if it worked, but as long as there's a profit to be made, everyone involved in the movie is happy. I guess if you have no expectations or standards for the movie, you can find it enjoyable. Overlook the plot holes here and there, and the rest is gravy.

If you want a movie with gore, watch Ichi the Killer. If gore is classified as horror, then that should do it. It will scare you shitless.

I agree with Femto about the Hitchcock's approach of direction. I do consider this approach more suspenseful than seeing a guy being brutally gnawed by a dog with no teeth, or a drug addict stabbing some random guy with a blunt needle.

You know what creates tension and atmosphere?

Walking through many hallways with no enemies in sight in complete silence and then hear a noise in the backgroung and stumble upon a wheelchair turned to it's side with it's wheels still turning. That'll make you piss your pants, not people you have no attachment to being maimed left and right.

quoteworthy.

Ho well, a Warcraft movie is just about to be announced.

This movie will be with live actors adding the chance that it will suck by 98%.....great.

I think you're just not giving enough credit to the movie Femto that's all. You can be so negative in your critics.

everyone is an idiot except femto.

Quest wrote:everyone is an idiot except femto.

So you are saying you are an idiot yourself

The Davinci Code movie out yet? anybody seen it? b/c here, they release the movies VERY late. And I don't want to waste my time and movie if the movie sucks.

i was being sarcastic.
=P

da code is not out here yet.

World of Warcraft has been rumored to be jumping platforms to the Xbox 360 for some time, but if The New York Times is correct, the next jump it makes will instead be to the world of film.

The Times is reporting that Blizzard will announce Tuesday that its massively successful, massively multiplayer online role-playing game is set to be made into a big-budget fantasy picture along the lines of Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings films, with Warner Bros.' Legendary Pictures handling the production.

Director, cast, release date, and budget are all undetermined as of yet, but the paper quotes Blizzard CEO Paul Sams as saying that the goal is to make "one of the best films in the world," a World of Warcraft pic that will appeal to gamers and non-gamers alike. He said Legendary Pictures management was keenly attuned to what Blizzard wanted out of a World of Warcraft film. Legendary's first film was Batman Begins. Other projects being brought to the big screen by Legendary Pictures include Superman Returns, The Ant Bully, Where the Wild Things Are, and Frank Miller's 300.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149638.html

MournfulWoods wrote:I think you're just not giving enough credit to the movie Femto that's all. You can be so negative in your critics.

Well, that's the point of being a critic. You point out the negative aspects that you see, the things that detract from the movie.

Just because someone made a movie does not mean it is to be praised. I understand Femto's points, and can see how he might not like the movie since it was, after all, based on a video game. As a stand-alone movie, it might be good. Unfortunately, this is not the case. It had the title and francise behind it, and Femto felt that the movie didn't do it justice.

MournfulWoods wrote:Now do you give some credits to my toughts about the movie ?

And why exactly should he do that since you won't do the same? This is one of those things, a two-way road. You bash (not rationally argue) him point-for-point and expect him to do that? Please. I haven't seen the movie, and based on the conversation I probably never will. Of course, the horror genre bores the living shit out of me so that doesn't help.

Well, that's the point of being a critic. You point out the negative aspects that you see, the things that detract from the movie.

No, doing a critic implies that you see the good AND the bad. Femto seems to see only the bad of the movie and therefore I think that his critic is somewhat biased.

And why exactly should he do that since you won't do the same?

I pointed out some things that I didn't like in my first review. I agree with Femto on the points that the dialogues weren't always good. I also agreed that the story wasn't spectacular and could have been told in a better way, without being bad. I don't mean to change his opinion and I never said my opinion was better.

You bash (not rationally argue) him point-for-point and expect him to do that?

Now maybe you didn't read the whole posts or something. I only did a critic of the film. I never «bashed» Femto. I only said that I don't think he'll give credits to my opinion on the movie because he's already made his mind about the movie. Is that bashing ? Tell me where I've been bashing him because I don'T see it. It's not like I'm angry at him for not liking the movie. He can hate it for all I care, but I don't have to agree with him.

MournfulWoods wrote:No, doing a critic implies that you see the good AND the bad. Femto seems to see only the bad of the movie and therefore I think that his critic is somewhat biased.

Re-read my posts, I'm sure I've mentioned at least a couple of things I liked about the movie, albeit briefly. I have more "bad" things to talk about simply because the bad far outweighted the good.

Good things about the movie?

Pyramid Head looked great, despite having no purpose in being there.

The music was good too but they ripped a lot from the games instead of composing new scores and it felt awkward for one that has heard the music a million times over already.

The most succesful thing the movie did in my eyes, is making it feel like a survival horror game. You see the main character walking through many hallways searching for clues to open up new places. Seeing her try to open those drawers in the school and then look for a key or removing that hotel thing from the corpses mouth was 100% Resident Evil/Silent Hill stuff.

All of that doesn't manage to make it a good film though.

I agree about the survival horror feeling.

About Pyramid Head's usefullness, I guess he could have been more of an important character yeah. But his presence wasn't pointless I think. it added to the horror, the creepiness. I would like to see the game though and learn more about this character. I'll probably check it out this summer.

I'd say Silent Hill is probably the best videogame to movie adaptation yet.



Now, has anybody heard about Hard Candy ? I heard it's pretty good but it didn't play in theaters where I live. I think it's coming out on DVD in september. The first 8 minutes of the movie can be watched here : http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808728077/trailer (click on the «more chocolate» clip link)

V for Vendetta: 9.7/10 could have had more action scenes but It was excellent with what it had.