Superhero comics and other comics.

Post by **Femto** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 8:44 pm

Buzkashi wrote:I finished off right when Thorr came. Does the main line of Civil War go past issue 3 as of now?

No.

The 3rd issue just came out this week.

Post by **Eldo** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:37 am

Thor working with SHIELD surprised me. I thought he would work for the other side because he respects brave warriors saving people out of altruism rather than working within the system. I have to think that the human side is in control, rather than Thor himself.

Post by **Libaax** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:00 pm

I was hoping he was like his cool Ultimate version, not ever working for the man. But it seems like his 616 is a fool like Tony.

Post by **Femto** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:22 pm

For those living in the US, Joe Quesada will be tonight's guest on the Colbert Report.

Post by **Libaax** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:24 pm

Wow another commersiel for CW.

anyone read Batman 655?

I am so glad that the run of one of the best writers in comics has started in my fav comic. Before i could only dream about Grant Morrison writing Batman.

Post by **MrFelony** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:05 pm

So i heard that there is a rumor going around that tom cruise is gonna star in the iron man movie...http://www.cinematical.com/2006/07/25/t ... in?src=AOL

Post by **Libaax** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:18 pm

I heard they dont want him starring it cause he is too famous or just wierd as he is these days.

Post by **MrFelony** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:56 am

i really hope they stick with that opinion.

Post by **Femto** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:02 am

Nobody gives a shit about Tom Cruise.

Let's get that stupid talk out of this thread.

Post by **MrFelony** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:10 am

I think you'd give a shit if Tom Cruise was chosen to play Iron Man

Post by **Eldo** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:11 am

I don't think Tom Cruise will play Tony Stark, just a gut feeling of mine.

Marvel don't really choose any Hollywood superstars like his status (however famous or infamous) as their lead roles.

Post by **Libaax** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:07 am

I dont care how wierd he is, he is one of the best at what he does.

Not that he would be good in IM, he is too famous.

Post by **MrFelony** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:22 pm

his movies recently havent even been very successful have they? war of the worlds maybe...I dont think cruise draws the fans in like big execs may think he does.

Post by **Libaax** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 5:33 pm

Haha you must be joking. MI3 was uber hit in the rest of the world. It topped 99% of the countries in the world

It sure didnt do bad in US iether.

Cruise is great cause he pick roles he is good at like Collateral which he was cool in.

He is prolly the most famous male actor in the world right now cause he attracts from fangirls to people like me who likes his movies for the genre they are.

Pitt and the rest are way behind.

His wierd vibe right now might hurt him alittle but people has short memories noone will remember in a couple of years.

Back to comics.

I just read Fables up to issue 50. Its so unique comic. Have started to read Hellblazer too.

Post by **Tempest** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:36 pm

Ever since coming home I've been goingto Borders and reading a few comic series each time I go in there. I pick some stuff up, get a soda, and sit in a big comfy chair, relishing in my geekdom. It's mostly been Marvel because I'm more familiar with the stuff, but I'm trying to branch out. So far I've been able to read:

House of M
Avengers Disassembled
1602
Infinity Gauntlet (I never got to see the last two issues)
The Ultimates Vol 1 and 2
Parts 1 and 2 of Ultimate Galactus
Ultimate X-Men Vol 1

I've looked at a number of titles they have there and will soon be reading:

Red Son
Batman Yer One
Any Hellboy I can get my grubby hands on.

Post by **Femto** » Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:55 pm

Read 100 Bullets.

Post by **Libaax** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:37 am

Vertigo is the best line for at the moment.

I mean 100 Bullets,Fables,Y the Last Man,Hellblazer,V for Vendetta,Watchmen Sandman etc.

People really should try Vertigo more often.

It made very sad when i saw Black Panther comic sold more than double the number of issues 100 Bullets did last month.....

People will read anything that are supes apparently no matter how bad they are.

Post by **Femto** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:39 am

Yeah, Vertigo produces a lot of fine, thought-provoking comic books, but you know what?

Superman/Batman is just as enjoyable, albeit in a different way.

Post by **Libaax** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:50 am

I know but i wasnt comparing them to that comic.

My point were in top 100 its only superheroes which is sad cause that means they will stop making comics like 100 Bullets who are needed more than a tenth Batman ongoing comic or a crappy comic like Black Panther.

I enjoy Vertigo comics like 100 Bullets,Fables,Y the last man more than 90% of the supes i read. Cause they give you what supes can never give.

I read just today a great column by Erik larsen that people should buy the comics type they want instead of buying a comic like Black Panther where all the fans compare how it sucks but they still buy it and Marvel will keep making comics like that.

Which is why i dumped Nightwing from my pull list despite it was one of my comics before the new writer. Which was good cause it seems alot of other fans stopped buying NW too and voilà they put a new great writer on the series.

Post by **Femto** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:00 am

I don't think DC expects to have the same amount of sales with Vertigo titles that they do with franchises that have been firmly established for over 60 years.

I agree that 100 Bullets should be appreciated by a wider audience but I wouldn't worry about DC pulling the plug on them.

It's won many awards and is critically acclaimed, they'll never give that up.

Same with Fables.

EDIT: Link me to that Erik Larsen column if you can, I'd be interested in reading it.

Post by **Libaax** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:10 am

Vertigo live on trades. I check trade wise which sells best. Vertigo do better than most superhero in trades. Which is a given since many people buy trades when they are new to a series that existed a while.

I know DC wont pull the plug on Vertigo titles cause many of them are like 100 Bullets,Fables criticly acclaimed. 100 Bullets and Fables together have 20 Eisner Awards.

I just wish more people tried Vertigo books cuase they are missing many great ones just cause they arent Superhero.

Anyway where are you on 100 Bullets? I am on vol 7.

Edit: here http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=20

The column isnt only about that but further down its about how to make yourself heard by showing in sales which comics they should keep making and which not to make.

Post by **Femto** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:14 am

I just read vol. 5, The Counterfifth Detective.

Probably the best so far.

The thing that's really impressive is how much story is in the artwork itself, things that aren't in the dialogue.

It's forced to read the series a bit more slowly so I can pay attention to the drawings.

Risso is one amazing artist.

Post by **Libaax** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:18 am

Risso is amazing. I call him Frank Miller at his best with colors

Then i heard he was a fan of FM and when i saw the art i should have guessed it.

His art is soo perfect and makes the writing even better.

Yeah that story was the best. Poor detective.

He was the coolest of them and how he ends up sad.

Post by **Femto** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:32 am

It's amazing how he can make every character look completely different from the other.

On the one hand, you have someone like Michael Turner who draws pretty much the same hot woman over and over with only minor variations.

On the other hand, you have Risso and the countless women he's drawn all of which look entirely different, can easily be told apart and all of which are every bit as good looking as the next one, but in very different ways.

His drawings have only the exact number of lines and shades necessary to show the picture, nothing less, nothing more. His art is polished down and boiled to it's essential storytelling elements without Jim Lee's detail or Adam Hughes' flash (which is not to say that these two guys are bad, they're just good for different reasons).

I've learned a lot from just looking at his art.

He really is amazing.

Honeslty? The book is worth buying for the art alone.

Add Azzarello and the dark, twisted world he's created and 100 Bullets is a no-brainer purchase.

PS: Risso pisses all over Frank Miller.

PPS: I read the Erik Larsen column and he's right about lots of things.

Post by **Libaax** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:53 am

I also like how diffrent his characters are, i mean most artist even the good ones have characters whose face look similer but not Risso.

His female characters look very cool, thier face look like old school beuty.

I wonder if he has done another comic, just to see how he in other comics.

For me no one comes near Sin City artwise.