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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 10:09 am
by Starnum
Yeah, I'm looking forward to the next chapter. I would like to see this fight be a good one, but I'm trying not to get my hopes up. ;)

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 11:27 am
by Brainpiercing
Well, by the looks of the teaser this fight may be much shorter than we originally thought...

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 4:18 pm
by oldboy
the raws are out....i hope the translation will come soon XD

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:07 pm
by MrFelony
nice to meetcha old boy. i think its a mix of suprise, worry, and "oh shit..." watch miura decides to focus on Farneze this chapter and that was the very last frame.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 5:11 pm
by LordMune
Femto wrote:Image
Now that's an expression of 'Oh shitz' on hıs face if I ever saw one. :D

If 256 is released while I'm still in Turkey on vacation ('tıl Monday >_> ) I WILL physically harm someone.

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 6:56 pm
by Sandman
Yes, must see the battle, must find raws :twisted:

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:23 pm
by Wandering_Mystic
hmm, I don't really think that look on his face is one of surprise. He's got those hawk eyes, like Griffith can get when things are intense. Plus he's not even looking at the pillar or the DragonSlayer, as if he knew that the pillar would slow down Guts attack just enough for him to make his strike. This chapter will be fantasticular. I highly doubt Miura would allow either one to die or even lose to each other so easily... So although we all know Guts will come out on top somehow, I'm excited to see Serpico display once again that there is more to him than meets the eye...

Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:42 pm
by oldboy
Sandman wrote:Yes, must see the battle, must find raws :twisted:
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Posted: Fri May 27, 2005 8:57 pm
by Libaax
Wandering_Mystic wrote:hmm, I don't really think that look on his face is one of surprise. He's got those hawk eyes, like Griffith can get when things are intense. Plus he's not even looking at the pillar or the DragonSlayer, as if he knew that the pillar would slow down Guts attack just enough for him to make his strike. This chapter will be fantasticular. I highly doubt Miura would allow either one to die or even lose to each other so easily... So although we all know Guts will come out on top somehow, I'm excited to see Serpico display once again that there is more to him than meets the eye...
If someone doesnt stop the fight or if Guts doesnt win i will be angry cause there is no way that Serpico should tie with Guts. Serpico isnt all that plus he is a mere human while Guts have faught Zodd the strongest of all apostles equally so Serpico should be a walk in the park....

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 12:13 am
by obi-pie
MrFelony wrote:nice to meetcha old boy. i think its a mix of suprise, worry, and "oh shit..." watch miura decides to focus on Farneze this chapter and that was the very last frame.
:shock:

haha that would be fuck up. but hell i cant wait till eg is ready with the chapter

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:05 am
by Wandering_Mystic
Libaax wrote:
Wandering_Mystic wrote:hmm, I don't really think that look on his face is one of surprise. He's got those hawk eyes, like Griffith can get when things are intense. Plus he's not even looking at the pillar or the DragonSlayer, as if he knew that the pillar would slow down Guts attack just enough for him to make his strike. This chapter will be fantasticular. I highly doubt Miura would allow either one to die or even lose to each other so easily... So although we all know Guts will come out on top somehow, I'm excited to see Serpico display once again that there is more to him than meets the eye...
If someone doesnt stop the fight or if Guts doesnt win i will be angry cause there is no way that Serpico should tie with Guts. Serpico isnt all that plus he is a mere human while Guts have faught Zodd the strongest of all apostles equally so Serpico should be a walk in the park....
It's funny you call Serpico a "mere human." What is Guts then, if not another mere human? He has been called that constantly by all kinds of apostles, but that didn't stop him. I think you're seeing this the wrong way. This isn't about who can slay or beat whom, but rather how far one is willing to go to fight for what they believe in, for what is important to them. The spotlight has been on Guts for a long time now, and honestly, he isn't doing as well as people think. The eclipse and the rise of the demons and mutilation of his comrades has totaly torn to shreds his original search for meaning in his life and forced him on a darker, even more uncertain path of revenge and hatred. Each step he takes on this path brings him farther and farther away from his humanity (literally and metaphorically through the emergence of the beast). It's getting harder and harder for him to keep his demons at bay, and if something doesn't change soon, he will be lost, transformed into the very kind of thing he hates so much. [/end guts analysis]

But with Serpico, this fight is important (at least to me) to really show more of what he is hiding in himself. He has his own internal struggles, not the least of which is his stange attraction to his half-sister, which doesn't seem to entirely sit too well with him either. Let me emphasize this: He is not stupid! He knows all too well what he is getting into, and how much of a suicide it is to take on Guts one-on-one. It should be obvious to everone by now that he is acting out of a desire to protect Farnese from the chaos that surrounds Guts.

That's why I look forward to the fight. Not to see one person or the other win or lose, but to see what kind of hidden reserves Serpico taps into and how far he will go for one of the noblest thing a human being can do, fight to protect a loved one.

(That said, Serpico has to face the music eventually and realize that there is no running away from the upcoming flood of demons and the like, but I admire him for going against all these odds in his own way, and for not sucking royally at it either ;-) )

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 5:04 am
by Struggler
Maybe it's that I havn't read many posts in this forum, but Wandering Mystic's post is one of the best I've read on the subject of Berserk.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 5:32 am
by Eldo
I just read 256. It's so fucking awesome.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 6:45 am
by Femto
Eldo wrote:I just read 256. It's so fucking awesome.
Shut up whore!

You're making the wait all the more excruciating! :P

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:03 am
by Struggler
You don't really need a translation you know. It's mostly just fighting.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:08 am
by Eldo
I'd say 70/30, more on fighting. Well, you do get to see the reason why Serpico doesn't want Farnese to go back, and various other stuff...

Heh.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 9:20 am
by Starnum
Yeah, good post Mystic.

*Elbow drops Eldo*

Man, I can't wait to read 256. :P

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 12:32 pm
by Brainpiercing
Ya, beat him Starnum, that spoilering whore.

If I weren't such an utterly peaceful person... :OWTH:

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:13 pm
by Libaax
Wandering_Mystic wrote:
Libaax wrote:
Wandering_Mystic wrote:hmm, I don't really think that look on his face is one of surprise. He's got those hawk eyes, like Griffith can get when things are intense. Plus he's not even looking at the pillar or the DragonSlayer, as if he knew that the pillar would slow down Guts attack just enough for him to make his strike. This chapter will be fantasticular. I highly doubt Miura would allow either one to die or even lose to each other so easily... So although we all know Guts will come out on top somehow, I'm excited to see Serpico display once again that there is more to him than meets the eye...
If someone doesnt stop the fight or if Guts doesnt win i will be angry cause there is no way that Serpico should tie with Guts. Serpico isnt all that plus he is a mere human while Guts have faught Zodd the strongest of all apostles equally so Serpico should be a walk in the park....
It's funny you call Serpico a "mere human." What is Guts then, if not another mere human? He has been called that constantly by all kinds of apostles, but that didn't stop him. I think you're seeing this the wrong way. This isn't about who can slay or beat whom, but rather how far one is willing to go to fight for what they believe in, for what is important to them. The spotlight has been on Guts for a long time now, and honestly, he isn't doing as well as people think. The eclipse and the rise of the demons and mutilation of his comrades has totaly torn to shreds his original search for meaning in his life and forced him on a darker, even more uncertain path of revenge and hatred. Each step he takes on this path brings him farther and farther away from his humanity (literally and metaphorically through the emergence of the beast). It's getting harder and harder for him to keep his demons at bay, and if something doesn't change soon, he will be lost, transformed into the very kind of thing he hates so much. [/end guts analysis]

But with Serpico, this fight is important (at least to me) to really show more of what he is hiding in himself. He has his own internal struggles, not the least of which is his stange attraction to his half-sister, which doesn't seem to entirely sit too well with him either. Let me emphasize this: He is not stupid! He knows all too well what he is getting into, and how much of a suicide it is to take on Guts one-on-one. It should be obvious to everone by now that he is acting out of a desire to protect Farnese from the chaos that surrounds Guts.

That's why I look forward to the fight. Not to see one person or the other win or lose, but to see what kind of hidden reserves Serpico taps into and how far he will go for one of the noblest thing a human being can do, fight to protect a loved one.

(That said, Serpico has to face the music eventually and realize that there is no running away from the upcoming flood of demons and the like, but I admire hiim for going against all these odds in his own way, and for not sucking royally at it either ;-) )

He is a mere human while Guts isnt a normal human,i mean he shouldnt have a problem with Serpico even if he doesnt want to hurt him cause there are kind of friends. I dont think Guts will look down on him or take it easy cause he is one of his crew,Guts has waiting to fight Serpico for a long time.

I'm hoping Guts finishis of him quickly and goes after Farnese.

I want to see Guts fighting an apostle soon maybe after this fight cause they can actually hurt him unlike most humans ;)

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:42 pm
by Femto
Libaax wrote:I want to see Guts fighting an apostle soon maybe after this fight cause they can actually hurt him unlike most humans ;)
Griffith?

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 1:51 pm
by Libaax
I was talking about the Guts now not when he was 15 years old. Guts is what about 100 times stronger then when he faught Griffith for the first time. Even in the begining of the manga when he faught the snake apostle he was very weak compared to the Guts now.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:12 pm
by Femto
I think it's too early to say that Guts is "the strongest human in the world" at this point. He is definitely powerful, and I personally think Serpico cannot take him directly, but c'mon, it's a whole planet that we're talking about here. Boscogn came out of nowhere and he was just as powerful as Guts. I know, he's gotten stronger, but that doesn't mean that there isn't someone out there fighting apostles for some weird reason too. Heck, Silke could arguably fry Guts with the proper spell and she's human last I checked.

Serpico could take Guts down in the right situation and with a little luck maybe. Guts was pretty much losing when he fought him the first time IMO. But I guess we'll never know for sure. Miura did a good job at leaving that particular incident open for discussion. We'll have to wait to see how the upcoming battle turns out to be sure.

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:17 pm
by Eldo
Femto wrote:Serpico could take Guts down in the right situation and with a little luck maybe.
*Opens mouth anxiously to speak, but closes it realising not everyone has read 256. :P *

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:28 pm
by Femto
I suggest that you edit that post right now because I am mildly pissed by the fact that you are borderline on spoiling this chapter. :evil:

Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 2:29 pm
by Libaax
Femto wrote:I think it's too early to say that Guts is "the strongest human in the world" at this point. He is definitely powerful, and I personally think Serpico cannot take him directly, but c'mon, it's a whole planet that we're talking about here. Boscogn came out of nowhere and he was just as powerful as Guts. I know, he's gotten stronger, but that doesn't mean that there isn't someone out there fighting apostles for some weird reason too. Heck, Silke could arguably fry Guts with the proper spell and she's human last I checked.

Serpico could take Guts down in the right situation and with a little luck maybe. Guts was pretty much losing when he fought him the first time IMO. But I guess we'll never know for sure. Miura did a good job at leaving that particular incident open for discussion. We'll have to wait to see how the upcoming battle turns out to be sure.

I didnt say Guts was the strongest human alive just that he is much much stronger than Serpico. But Guts is proabably strongest man alive.

Can you say something about Boscogn i'm not good with names,who was he?

And how can you think that he lost when he faught Serpico....

Haha Silke against Guts that would be intresting :P