Little known Berserk facts...

[ollie210]

Hello, I'm new to posting here, although I'm an old had to perusing your posts. Anyway, I was looking at dailyrotten.com and found something interesting:

"Aug 18 1503: Pope Alexander VI dies. He was the father of seven illegitimate children, and during his reign chose as his lover the lovely sixteen year old Guilia Farnese. A portrait of Guilia dressed as the Virgin Mary appeared over Alexander's bedchamber door, but by no means was she his only liaison."

Perhaps this is who Farnese is named after? Maybe this has already been discussed, but I thought it was neat, so I thought I'd share.

Laters

[Buzkashi]

Probably. You see alot of things like that. Gaiseric being one of them. And Gashinka too.

[Your Dark Memory]

What? I'm not sure that is what happened...I think that when the behelit apostle started the "cerimony" demons started to appear...one of them possessed the goat guy.

As for Mozgul (sp?), I don't remember where he got his powers. Is it mentioned?

Mozgus isn't really an apostle, so he didn't have to use a behelit. He's more or less an apostle spawn of the Behelit Apostle, because the Behelit Apostle gave him his powers. >.<

[Khelegond]

Yeah, that freaked me out... I don't think he will, but hope Miura don't start contradicting himself, like so many writers who got successfull...(George Lucas comes to mind ).

[LordMune]

Or doesn't go batshit insane and start fuxing up everything he made up until that point (George Lucas springs to mind).

[Necromancer]

Berserk Anime Remake, now instead of that helmet griffith gets while tortured he gets a darth vader helmet.

[Khelegond]

Yeah, and when Gatts is aiming the hand cannon at Grumbeld (sp?), now Grumbeld shoots first!

rofl

[Skullkracker]

hah, when I first saw that part, I thought he did fire first, but the cartridge exploded in Guts's hand, which only made the shield blow to bits

would be a more badass solution

[k3mikal]

very interesting stuff
only after reading ur posts i totally understood the event at the tower with mozgus and co. thnks for that

Arresty said:

Also Guts is one of the best characters in any story out there. He was pretty 2D at the beginning, but now he has really developed. After volume 4 you really start to feel for him, and understand why he is the way he is. You really see him grow and change. You watch him from his birth to where he is today. You see him go through all parts of his life. Its not common to see this much of someone in a story, and to still make the characters development realistic and believable

I agree, although Muira uses the usual approach of gradually attaching the reader to the main character throughout the chapters, theres something different in the way he makes you feel for guts and experience even a little of guts's feelings.

A few things that i noticed; in the part where griffith catches princess charlotte when she trips, and then the king's brother julius comes and slaps him across the face, griffith bled on the other side of his mouth, not the slapped-side. dont really know if its worth mentioning
Another thing, that apostle who had his wife betray him, but then he refused to sacrifice his daughter in order to live longer, in the stream of bodies (souls?) coming out of hell, Vargas was on of those bodies, from what we know of Vargas he wasnt a bad guy, why did he go to hell? thats another thing am confused about :s

[Ellen]

I thought everyone went to hell when they died.

Or maybe that if you think you're going to hell, then you'll be going to hell.

[Necromancer]

As far as I know, all dead apostles and all sacrificed or killed by apostles go to that stream/vortex/whatever. Maybe like Ellen said everyone gets there. And it's not a hell or maybe you could call it that but it's not about being bad or not at all.

[Skullkracker]

maybe he just had his hell personalised for him

who did you mess up most? Vargas?
come and get it then!

[k3mikal]

might be, thinking of it as not being hell does make more sense indeed, i remember when the issue of the astral world and the "abyss" was brought up (cant remember which chapter and by who), it was mentioned that souls going deeper into the abyss never came back, and no one knows whats beyond that because no soul ever came back, so its not possible for Vargas to come back.
i recall Void saying something about the stream coming from Hell, is it called that as a description? to emphasis the torment of the souls? if its not hell, what is it? is there anything mentioned in the manga about it?

[Starnum]

Hm, I don’t remember seeing Vargas being sucked into the Maelstrom, but if he was, then whatever. However, as far as what Miura has shown us, life after death is nothing like what most people think it is in our world. In fact, it seems like dieing can be a bad thing. The way it seems to me, the dead have a high probability of turning into undead, especially if they’re in a place containing a high concentration of God Hand or Apostle influence. Those who don’t turn into crazy shit like zombies and evil spirits, probably either go into a type of sleep-state, or pass over into the ethereal realm. However, the Maelstrom seems to be reserved for sacrifices, apostles, the God Hand, and Idea. However, it is a type of vortex, so simply being to close to it is probably dangerous.

[Ellen]

Here is where we see Vargas, just for context

Wait... Am I allowed to show this?

[Necromancer]

I don't see anything

if its not hell, what is it? is there anything mentioned in the manga about it?

I don't exactly know how clearly it is mentioned in the manga. But it's a stream that flows through Idea. I think it feeds Idea, because people that believe in him make him real and those souls will never be able to forget him.

[psi29a]

Perfect time for k3mikal to re-read all the volumes. It is called the Maelstrom (sp?), basically the Vortex that pulls the souls into the Abyss.

Feel free to visit skullknight.net and look at their info, they have lots of stuff about how the different levels of the world overlap and have a great encylopedia.

Hell is just a reference, the real world notion of 'Hell' itself doesn't exactly exist in the world of Berserk.

[Ellen]

I don't see anything

:p
I didn't post it because I realized it was part of the first few volumes and hence bad to post. lol



OKie smokie:

[psi29a]

If it is berserk, then it is ok to post.

[k3mikal]

ahaa
will check sk.net for more info, thanks for explanation
i was rereading the volumes, looking for bits that i didnt understand last time i read, and found the perfect thread for that

another thing am still confused about, in that tower where Griffith was a prisoner, there were branded human skulls, i couldnt think of a suitable explanation for it, any ideas?

[Skullkracker]

well at second glimpse of that pic, I'd say all those baldies look very much alike (diiscusting), so maybe ha just confused one of them with Vargas showing that he is more and more human becouse his love for his daughter was stronger than his lust for life and power and he even regained his guilty fellings for what he did, but considering Miura's stile, it is a stupid explaination of the obvious

though it even could have been his own wife that comes for him first

OK too farfetched

about the tower, we think that there was an eclipse when the city was destroyed by the four angels/elemental kings/whatever, and it was in some way connected to Gaiseric, whose armor was very much like Skull Knight's...

in six words: we don't know anything certain either

[Devil_Dante]

is "don't" actually 1 word? I tought it was 2, so there are 7 words?

[ucrzymofo87]

"don't" is 2 words combined into 1 contraction

[Skullkracker]

FUCK MY GRAMMER!!!

[Sandman]

He was just fucking with you, no need to go all bold and caps and shit