Terminator 2 is the best action movie ever...

Post by **Gaiseric** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 8:39 pm

Libaax wrote:Gaiseric:

The movie Chow Yun Fat mows down people in the street is it The Killer?

I am downloading it right now.

Man this thread is by the best thing Femto has done in this forums.

The clips are great.

I laughed like crazy at The Commando clip

I believe that scene is in The Killer, but do yourself a favor and download The Killer, Hard Boiled, and at least the first A Better Tomorrow.

And now for another classic scene from Commando:

This is one basically the same as the first one I posted +/- some pieces, but the voices are more exaggerated, sounds like a dub.

Commando and the Terminator movies are dear to me because a lot of my friends lost their rated R virginity watching them at my house. (Mormons don't watch rated R movies)

Post by **Devil_Dante** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 9:17 pm

And now for another classic scene from Commando:

HAHAHAHA!

+1

Post by **Femto** » Tue Sep 19, 2006 10:01 pm

Malvado wrote:action movies are supposed to have plot?

Both Terminator movies have an amazing storyline.

The chicken and the egg thing in the first one still leaves me scratching my head sometimes.

Coincidentally, I bought Aliens the other day.

Haven't seen it in a few years, but it can't be better than T2.

EDIT: Just saw that Commando clip Gaiseric posted.

Holy shit!

Post by **Arngrim** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 2:41 am

Femto wrote:
Malvado wrote:action movies are supposed to have plot?
Both Terminator movies have an amazing storyline.

The chicken and the egg thing in the first one still leaves me scratching my head sometimes.

Coincidentally, I bought Aliens the other day.

Haven't seen it in a few years, but it can't be better than T2.

EDIT: Just saw that Commando clip Gaiseric posted.

Holy shit!

Terminator 2 (like gaiseric mentioned above) was the thing that took my rated R naitivity. Probably was around 6-8 years old, I can't remember, whenever the movie first came out on VHS. Babysiter asked me what movie I wanted to watch, pointed out a bunch of disney movies to me and then I said,
"That one!" *T2*
Was the most 2 hours full of ass kicking I'd seen in my child life since Burton's Batman. I don't know if it's the "greatest" action movie, and I don't say that out of smite, but in the fact I don't know if there's anything that does contend with that comes to mind.

The Matrix was just another clone of a clone of a clone. Wachowski brother showed Ghost in the Shell to a few guys at WB and bam, through in a few models of Cashern and GITS and all of a sudden people think the Matrix was the best fucking movie ever made with some supposed legendary bullshit philosophy.

Not trying to offend people that like the movie, I do too, but it's nowhere near the scale of what T2 has done for movies.

Post by **Starnum** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:57 am

Yeah, T2 is definitely classic, no denying that.

Whoa, was that a little Alyssa Milano I saw in that Commando clip? *Looks it up* Ha! sure enough. Heh, I remember seeing that movie a long ass time ago. Didn't know she was in it. Funny how these things turn up.

Post by **ZombieToaster** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:29 am

First of all, let me say that i have nothing against T2 but all you people gotta stop buttkissing it so much.

Once upon a time in the west is the best action movie ever made if you ask me. And for those hyperactive kids that will say that its not an action movie i say Total Recall.

Post by **Arngrim** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:19 am

ZombieToaster wrote:First of all, let me say that i have nothing against T2 but all you people gotta stop buttkissing it so much.

Once upon a time in the west is the best action movie ever made if you ask me. And for those hyperactive kids that will say that its not an action movie i say Total Recall.

I have to strongly disagree with you there. Once Upon a Time in the West (if we're talking about the same movie) is a definitive Western movie in the epic string of magnicifent seven/fistful of dollars/dynamite+seven samurai. By nature it has "action" in it but the story is more of the focus, so I don't really see the comparison with that and T2. Not to mention, again, could be wrong, the movie you speak of (if its the same Im thinking of) didn't have much of an impact stateside but was big in other western countries. Wheras T2 had a -massive- impact on not just action, but on entertainment in general.

There are several movies I have that are leaps and bounds better than Terminator 2, but they aren't labeled as "Action" nor on any margin of a scale of the amount found. Again, its one of the seldom movies to heavily focus on such and actually be -more- than "good".

Post by **swallow** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:52 am

Sorry ddem1 - I don't think that a Steven Segal movie could ever EVER be considered a classic. (By the way love the avatar.)

As far as the Matrix goes, Keanu Reeves has the fighting skills of well... Steven Segal. Terminator 2 is a classic given...

But no-one's mentioned Die Hard. I still get phobias of getting caught out without the appropriate footwear, and Alan Rickman must be one of the best bad guys ever (along with Tim Curry

). I also love the fact how John McTiernan said that if it had been about anything than money that it would have sucked the joy out of the whole movie.

P.S. I've always felt that Chow Yun Fat was a bit too rotund for an action hero.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 12:15 pm

Gaiseric wrote:
Libaax wrote:Gaiseric:

The movie Chow Yun Fat mows down people in the street is it The Killer?

I am downloading it right now.

Man this thread is by the best thing Femto has done in this forums.

The clips are great.

I laughed like crazy at The Commando clip
I believe that scene is in The Killer, but do yourself a favor and download The Killer, Hard Boiled, and at least the first A Better Tomorrow.

And now for another classic scene from Commando:

This is one basically the same as the first one I posted +/- some pieces, but the voices are more exaggerated, sounds like a dub.

Commando and the Terminator movies are dear to me because a lot of my friends lost their rated R virginity watching them at my house. (Mormons don't watch rated R movies)

I did have Hard Boiled before, i watched it half of it and feel sleep. Not cause the film was bad cause i was tired and sleepy before i even started watching.

Post by **ddem1** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:20 pm

swallow wrote:Sorry ddem1 - I don't think that a Steven Segal movie could ever EVER be considered a classic. (By the way love the avatar.)

Uhmmm that fatty Steven

Hmm action movies.... http://www.bad-good.org/host.wmv

A clip from Hostile Takedown

Post by **Starnum** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:05 pm

swallow wrote:As far as the Matrix goes, Keanu Reeves has the fighting skills of well... Steven Segal. Terminator 2 is a classic given...

You do realize that Steven Seagal could break Keanu Reeves into little pieces, I hope. I mean, the guy is a fucking 7th degree black belt in Aikido. He doesn't have much acting skills to speak of, but you can't deny that he's a master of martial arts. Van Damme can't touch this guy. I'm not a big fan of Seagul, but you have to respect his mad fighting skills.

Post by **ddem1** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 5:43 pm

Starnum wrote:
swallow wrote:As far as the Matrix goes, Keanu Reeves has the fighting skills of well... Steven Segal. Terminator 2 is a classic given...
You do realize that Steven Seagal could break Keanu Reeves into little pieces, I hope. I mean, the guy is a fucking 7th degree black belt in Aikido. He doesn't have much acting skills to speak of, but you can't deny that he's a master of martial arts. Van Damme can't touch this guy. I'm not a big fan of Seagul, but you have to respect his mad fighting skills.

And he's extremelly fat

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Sep 20, 2006 11:26 pm

Starnum wrote:
swallow wrote:As far as the Matrix goes, Keanu Reeves has the fighting skills of well... Steven Segal. Terminator 2 is a classic given...
You do realize that Steven Seagal could break Keanu Reeves into little pieces, I hope. I mean, the guy is a fucking 7th degree black belt in Aikido. He doesn't have much acting skills to speak of, but you can't deny that he's a master of martial arts. Van Damme can't touch this guy. I'm not a big fan of Seagul, but you have to respect his mad fighting skills.

Exactly he might not have the charisma to have been a great action star or the acting skills.

But you cant say his martial arts skills are bad.

I liked Seagal only for his fighting skills, its cool seeing someone kick ass with Aikido.

I saw in a documentary that they taught that kind of agressive Aikido to street police of Tokyo, Which means dont ever go near those guys

Post by **ZombieToaster** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:18 am

didn't have much of an impact stateside but was big in other western countries. Wheras T2 had a -massive- impact on not just action, but on entertainment in general.

Well impact doesnt realy have much to do with being good(altho most movies that have an impact are. so is not always the case.)

Sorry ddem1 - I don't think that a Steven Segal movie could ever EVER be considered a classic.

Its all a metter of taste. While the public may never see it. Segal has millions of fans that would dissagree with you.

As far as the Matrix goes, Keanu Reeves has the fighting skills of well... Steven Segal.

Are you serious? Have you seen any of segals older movies?
Keanu doesnt have any fighting skills at all. its all done by wires, stuntmans and 3d effects. while segal in his older movies prove that he is worthy of having those black belts that he has.(hes newer movies aint to good so dont think youve seen segal if you have only seen those)
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Post by **Femto** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:31 am

Face/Off is awesome too.

Great acting by both Nic Cage and Travolta.

The movie is pretty mindless though.

Post by **Arngrim** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:44 am

ZombieToaster wrote: Well impact doesnt realy have much to do with being good(altho most movies that have an impact are. so is not always the case.)

Oh I know what you mean, I liked the movie as well but in defense of T2, I was talking on terms of its creation spawning a great deal of possibilities (in other words, its a staple of movies in general). Its true that staples aren't always the "greatest" movies ever, but there are very few that aren't worth seeing, because they are essential for a reason.

Post by **Libaax** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:59 am

Femto wrote:Face/Off is awesome too.

Great acting by both Nic Cage and Travolta.

The movie is pretty mindless though.

Its the only good John Woo movie in hollywood.

Replacement Killers is also good action,Chow Yun Fat kicks ass as usuall.

Post by **Finito** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:55 am

I like some action with comedy like True Lies

Post by **swallow** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:51 am

I was only half joking about Segal, partly because my brother's a huge fan. About his fighting skills - during his old days when he still looked almost as good as Banderas you could probably have said that he was a pretty good fighter, but seriously, in his last movies, I got the feeling that he wouldn't have even been able to beat a toy pony, much less a pasty face Keanu Reeves.

Speaking of Banderas - how 'bout Desperado - that whole guitar trio scene was the best - especially the guy that had to do a whole half dance to get that bazooka in his guitar case working.

And yeah... True Lies must be one of my Schwarznegger favourites.

Post by **Libaax** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 3:24 pm

You know how thin he is has nothing to do with how good he fights right?......

He could be fat 80 year old and still break every bone in keanu Revees body

Post by **Finito** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:47 pm

Well being big doesnt make you weaker, it might lower your skills, but you still gain some strenght with the weight and keanu is such a wimp, I doubt an ex-master martial artist with some extra weight and getting old would have too much difficulty dealing with him.

Desperado was entertaining, the action at the start was pretty nice, but they fucked up the movie with:
-The drama : Some nowhere kid wantingto learn guitar selling drugs for his father getting in the middle of the fights and getting shot. The drama/love scenes with the chick was ok but it took too much time in my advice, reducing the action per seconds of the movie.
-The wasteful and useless allies : Those 2 guys he called were total canonfodder dying at their first appearance. They could of had done something worth it instead of rising our expectations only to deceive us and do some of the ugliest shittiest and most unessesary moves ever.
-The fact that they completely skipped the final battle was one of the worst thing I have ever seen... I mean omg imagine T2 ending with the car pursuit where he gets blown off in ice cubes...the lamezorz

Post by **Devil_Dante** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:24 pm

ddem1 wrote:
Starnum wrote:
swallow wrote:As far as the Matrix goes, Keanu Reeves has the fighting skills of well... Steven Segal. Terminator 2 is a classic given...
You do realize that Steven Seagal could break Keanu Reeves into little pieces, I hope. I mean, the guy is a fucking 7th degree black belt in Aikido. He doesn't have much acting skills to speak of, but you can't deny that he's a master of martial arts. Van Damme can't touch this guy. I'm not a big fan of Seagul, but you have to respect his mad fighting skills.
And he's extremelly fat

Last time I checked he had small titties

Post by **Starnum** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:28 pm

Gaining weight, or being over weight, doesn't decrease your skill at all. It may hamper your performance, but not enough that an untrained laymen would stand any kind of chance against a seventh degree black belt. I saw this special on kenjutsu one time, and the master of the dojo was a big ole fat guy, and he was still owning all the students in the class. Guys with far more training than Keanu, mind you. It was pretty interesting actually. Of course, in a match against two equally skilled fighters, the one with the better body really will have the upper hand.

Post by **MrFelony** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:35 pm

Femto wrote:Face/Off is awesome too.

Great acting by both Nic Cage and Travolta.

The movie is pretty mindless though.

I was watching the last part of that movie and just couldnt help but think it was incredibly stupid...but i guess its something you have to watch from the start...

Post by **Libaax** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:29 am

I just finished watching Versus.

It reminded me so much of Devil May Cry, demons brothers,portals to the other side etc.

The action was very fast,good. Best of all it had the best combo of music+action i have seen in a movie. There were so many diffrent kind of good music thrown in the movie. There was also funny parts.

Almost too gory.

After it i wanna see more action films like it

Lucky Versus 2 will be out soon.