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Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:52 am
by Buzkashi
Besides the fact that serpico is gay with his powers. But yea he was lookin badass at that point.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:28 am
by k3mikal
sidenote, one of my friends looks exactly like serpico :|

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:28 am
by Pergatory
sooo made my weekend :D

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 11:55 am
by Recro
Awesome thanx again EG for the excellent work!

is it just me or do these chapters need to be longer?
the waiting hurts but great stuff keep up the good work

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 12:02 pm
by nine_inch_neos
Thankx for the chapter!! can't wait for the next!!

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:20 pm
by Wandering_Mystic
Thanks for the all the work you guys go through! I do have something to point out though, which I think is pretty important. I read the raws, and noticed that the EGs ending was pretty horribly mistranslated.

on the 18th page, when Guts starts speaking to Farneze, instead of saying "I came here to get you because we need your help", what he is really saying according to the raw is rather more like "This is where your family is, the world of the nobility that you are familiar with" (Koko niya omae no oya kyoudai ga iru. Omae no mishitta kizoku no sekai da)

Then, on the next page (19), he doesn't lamely say "Will you come along with me?" at all. He says something like "Is this the end of the line for your journey?" (Koko ga omae no tabi no shuuchakuchi ka?) To which she correctly replies "No"

Page 20, on the right panels, it doesn't necessarily say "I realized that this group isn't the right place for me", but rather "Inside this cage of stone I finally realized this is not the place for me to return to. It is a place I already set off from a long time ago" (Kono ishi no kago no naka de youyaku wakarimashita. Koko wa watashi no modoru basho de wa nai. Mou mukashi ni tabidatta basho na no da to)

Then the rest of the page, instead of "Such a castle of stone I know so well calls for me again. Now is the time. I'll just miss you from time to time. That's all" she says "I was just feeling nostalgic, so I tried stopping by. That's all" (Tada natsukashikute, tachiyottemita, sore dake desu)

I didn't mean to be a prick or anything, but it is completely different from the english that was released, no? In the Japanese, it is pretty clear Farneze is going with Gutts and leaving the nobles. I hope this makes the chapter seem less bizarre and abrupt.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 1:26 pm
by Eldo
Actually, if you're interested, maybe you can help EG out with translating Berserk. We need all the help we can get.

Thanks for the corrections.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 3:57 pm
by Kenju
Well christ, that completely changes the entire chapter.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 4:45 pm
by Wandering_Mystic
I'd be glad to help out. Normally the translations worked pretty well, it's just this instance where I was completely blown away by the difference in interpretation.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 6:54 pm
by Starnum
Wow, that's pretty interesting. You should definitely talk to Nazgul if you want to help us with the translations. That really does make a big difference. Heh, I'm just the QC guy, but I want to apologize to everyone for this error. Also, I noticed some of my notes were also mistranslated, so there are a few grammar errors as well. I'm going to talk with Nazgul about this, and I personally think we should do a re-release. I can't guarantee this, but we'll see.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 7:35 pm
by k3mikal
i still cant see why farneze didnt go with them :/

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 8:15 pm
by Skullkracker
dang

this makes the whole thing sound much much more logical

still, I can't shake the feeling that the next chapter is gonna be...huh...pages of no-action blabbing

PS: thank you Mystic, I'm gonna sleep that much better tonight

WHOOOHOOO, snake powered Farnaze to the rescue!!!

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:14 pm
by Libaax
I was very suprised that Farnese choosed her family who she dont like before her friends but thanks to wandering_mystic we know now what she really said.



Thanks for the chap Nazgul and co !

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:14 pm
by Oro
Thats very strange i got my transaltions from skullknight.net like always , and thay are pretty much correct all the time,anyways if Wandering_Mystic can pm me the correct translations, i'll really appreciate it.
page 5

noble 1: he has the strength of four men, a real monster!!

noble 2: incredible, we should recruit him into our army...!!

noble 1: we really need him...

noble 2: yes, he must recruit him...

noble 3: yeah, with such a skilled knight, we'd get an advantage over Tudor&!!

noble 3: wha!!

page 6

nobles: what is this thing!?

Isidro: haha! game over, time to die tigerpuss!

Isidro: (...i must impress them to build my reputation)

Puck: im taking the donations for the saving of your lives

Puck: i think so far you owe only 3 millions, I am charitable!

Puck: now who wants to be the first saved?

nobles: bugs!? what is that... fairies!?

nobles: so cuuute!

Ibelera: hot stuff!

noble: donate how much!?

Puck: just empty your pants.

noble: this isnt very charitable

nobles: what little monsters&

page 7

noble ladies: ahhhhhh!

Farnese: sensei!

page 8

Farnese: what&?

Schierke: magical thorned snake totems.

Ibalera: cat pricked itself?

Schierke: i kept them in case we would need them. good for attacking and tying up evil opponents if they have physical selves, it follows their odo (ki???).

Schierke: you can control them with this ring&

Schierke: Farnese, do you want to try it?

Schierke: here:

page 9

Schierke: now you can control them, use emotions from your heart

Schierke: just concentrate Farnese with your mind and visualise your target

Farnese: &..hmm

Schierke: yes. doing well Farnese, go on like that.

Ibalera: good with reptiles for a beginner.

page 11

Magnifico: Roderick!

Roderick: take that thing!

Roderick: hey. how do you know lady Farnese?

Guts: i'm a friend. no time for talk.

Roderick: well then, time to fight as a captain

Roderick: shes mine

page 13

Roderick: aaaa

Roderick: Farnese, whaddya!?

Farnese: the weakness.... you can hurt it with the silver Roderick!

page 14

Roderick: wha& silver&

page 16

Guts: looks like that guy did his job this time

Schierke: ¬ yet

Ibalera: hes flying around...

page 17

Isidro: what? theyre all stopped and trembling?

Schierke: i used a spell to stop them in their place

Ibalera: simon says no move.

nobles: whoa..wu..not moving.. stopped.. wow

page 18

Schierke: you did a good job

Ibelera: cute girls power

Farnese: sensei

Guts: i came here to get you, because we need your help

page 19

Guts: will you come along with me?

Farnese: ...no

page 20

Farnese: i realised that this group isnt the right place for me. such a castle of stone i know so well calls up for me again, now is the time. ill just miss you from times to times. thats all.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 9:28 pm
by Baz
Yeah but if you look it was a newbie who did SkullKnight's one. If you're going to use their Translations you should wait for "puella" or one of the other normal tranlators to do it.

P.s this new Translation explains a lot thanks.

Posted: Sat Aug 27, 2005 10:06 pm
by Devil_Dante
I thought it was kinda bizar at the end of the chapter. Too bad I don't know any japanese. Thanks Mystic guy.
And a re-release is a good idea.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:15 am
by altekterror
Thank you thank you, definatly evolving into something no one can predicted, except for the nobles wanting to " Yes, we MUST recruit him..."
await more updates!

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:29 am
by Wandering_Mystic
Nazgul, I was looking over the raw, and I saw quite a few differences. I'll write something up and PM it to you sometime tomorrow. It'll take me an hour or two, and it's late over here.

Luckily it was mostly an action chapter anyway, and the most important thing was the ending. Nevertheless, a lot of the chatter in between seemed almost completely unfaithful to the original, so if any of you thought that people were saying strange things or were a bit out of character, that's why.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 12:30 am
by Eldo
Your signature is way too big. Please read the guidelines and reduce it to the appropriate height.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 4:23 am
by Necromancer
Huh, really interesting how this failue changes the whole ending. Now Farnese will go with them.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:38 am
by Buzkashi
k3mikal : Your av is way to fuckin huge. Come one now baby. 150x300

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 6:49 am
by k3mikal
roger that

edit: sorry i had it scaled to edit it on photoshop and forgot to rescale it to the appropriate size after i finished.

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 7:13 am
by evilester_me
I dunno...I kind of thought it would be cool if Farnese stayed with the nobles. She could influence political decisions regaurding the new bank of the hawks if she stayed behind but this ending does make more sense

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:40 am
by Baz
Hmm.. Did anyone else pick up on the whole Rose and thorn theme, that Schierke was using and how reminiscent of the SkullKnight's Coat of Arms it is. I had always thought SkullKnight's armour was make by the Elf King after Puck said he had a 'Fairy's scent'(ch 142), but perhaps it was Flora who make it or who knows they may have worked together? :shock:

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 3:07 pm
by Skullkracker
it's like barbed wire

yummy