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Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:33 am
by Shisho
Chibi I believe means "kid" or "child". And a chibi form would be one that looks like a child or has childish attributes.

Puck isn't funny unless he's in Chibi, because he doesn't have the same expressive quality for humor. There wasn't anything specifically funny about him in the beginning. He was more like a character to present the story and dialog, because Gatz I'm sure didn't have anything to say. So it makes the story kind of boring if he just walks around and kills people. Think of Blame! without Cibo.

Early Puck was more of an inquiry into Gatz's character than comic relief. He did a couple of humorous things, and they got funnier as he was able to look more ridiculous doing them. I sort of ignore his character now, he's kind of cliche now. Like omg Ishidoro I'm your master, you're my student, you disappoint me, blah blah. Miura makes it easier too now that his dialog is so tiny in size. With the presence of the other cast now he's not really that essential anymore, because Gatz isn't a lone traveler anymore.

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 7:59 am
by Fuji Nagase
puck was supposed to serve as a character to keep guts from becoming too inhuman, right? now that he was "comrads" puck has little use. i never liked puck a lot. i dont mind him so much now, but the little flying animal sidekick is just too cliche for miura. hes so much better than that. but hey, im sure he has some kind of plan to make puck useful again.

anyway, im glad the chibi thing was cleared up. its a well known term in american anime fandom. either u like it or hate it, chibi is a common reference.

Posted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:40 pm
by Khelegond
You're probably the first two I hear complaining about Puck.

He's simply the so called 'comic-relief' of a hard story - at least, the most important one.

And I think he's the funniest sidekick I ever read anywhere. I can't help but laugh loud sometimes :)

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 9:04 am
by Silent Wayfarer
There's a quote I'm trying to think of, but the exact wording escapes me and I really don't want to spend the time leafing through all of Berserk to find it (ZOMG enzyme database searches!). It's somewhere along the lines of "Never look back."

It's definitely not the one Guts says after defeating Griffith, but I don't know who said it. It could have been Guts, or Griffith, but like I said, I forgot the exact words.

I will award ONE (1) free Internet to anyone who can help me.

Thanks!

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:43 am
by Fuji Nagase
im not really against puck, but hes getting less and less useful. i dont really mind puck all that much.

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 1:19 pm
by Skullkracker
since there's another elf in the group they turned into the most annoying thing in Berserk ever

I predict that once they get to Elfhelm it will be so ghey that Guts will immediately turn back

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2006 7:00 am
by Starnum
I like Puck.

However, chibi would be better translated as "small", I believe. Puck doesn't become chibi, he becomes SD (Super Deformed). This is often called chibi by Americans though, which is a misnomer, if I'm not mistaken.

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 7:08 am
by Fuji Nagase
well.. yeah, i actually.. ill agree with that. but as less of a japanese term and more of a "fangirl japanese" term, what i said i think still stands. sadly...
( as a more americanized japanese term, chibi can mean what i said maybe, but more literally, chibi is "small" i'd say. (i hope this all didnt confuse anyone)

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2006 11:05 am
by Skullkracker
nah

to sum it up, chibi is a way of making a character also look ridiculous when he acts ridiculous :P

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:03 am
by Starnum
Well, it depends. That's really SD, but if you want to call it Chibi, I believe that's accepted in America for some reason. The only time I've heard it used commonly, and correctly in America, is in reference to Chibi Trunks. You know, he's little, but not SD.

It's kind of like how people pronounce manga incorrectly. I hear it all the time at book stores, but they're saying it wrong see. However, it's kind of become accepted here, to say it that way, which bothers me really. Some people will say (May-nga), when it's actually (Mah-nga). So, that's how chibi is. You can call SD chibi if you want, but that's not actually what it's called, in Nippon anyway. Much how, in America, we say, Otaku, which is usually taken as an insult in Nippon. It's sad how things get corrupted like that. What bothers me is how most people basically disregard the culture of other countries. Most people, once they're told the truth, still prefer to do things like that their own incorrect way. I mean, the name of the country isn't even Japan, that's just another negligent corruption. I find all of it odd is all. Heheh, I'm just rambling really, so don't mind me.

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 10:27 am
by Skullkracker
at least this thread keeps on going, even if it's "all chibi" nowadays

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:44 pm
by evilester_me
Starnum wrote:

It's kind of like how people pronounce manga incorrectly. I hear it all the time at book stores, but they're saying it wrong see. However, it's kind of become accepted here, to say it that way, which bothers me really. Some people will say (May-nga), when it's actually (Mah-nga).

I pronounce it incorrectly, and I know it kills some people but my reasoning is I'm not Japanese. I don't speak with a Japanese accent so I say it the way I feel most comfortable.

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:53 pm
by Skullkracker
I feel good now, becouse I pronounce it correctly. Although I never really use the word in conversation...damn

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:57 am
by Starnum
evilester_me wrote:
Starnum wrote:

It's kind of like how people pronounce manga incorrectly. I hear it all the time at book stores, but they're saying it wrong see. However, it's kind of become accepted here, to say it that way, which bothers me really. Some people will say (May-nga), when it's actually (Mah-nga).

I pronounce it incorrectly, and I know it kills some people but my reasoning is I'm not Japanese. I don't speak with a Japanese accent so I say it the way I feel most comfortable.
No offense, but that reasoning makes no sense to me. It's not a matter of accent, that's just how it's pronounced. It would be like calling a comic, a (CO-mike) or something. Are you sure you just don't want to say it correctly, because you're used to saying it incorrectly? If so, as I've said, it's just simple disregard caused by laziness and a lack of respect. I mean, I don't care how you say it, these are just my views and thoughts. For example, as Americans, we know the metric system is more accurate, but we're to lazy and stubborn to convert. Also, the world has got to officially know that Japan is actually called Nippon, by its inhabitants. However, the majority of people just don't care. We're all just too lazy and disrespectful to correct it. It's easy just to be stubborn and do it our own way. I find it all sad, that's all *shrugs*.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 9:33 am
by Buzkashi
Heh, I just think "mah-nga" sounds really gay..

P.S : I never new about that Nippon thing. But thats just the same with alot of countries. Especially in the mid east. Practically everything from there including how to say the countries names are mispronounced by us americans.

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:47 pm
by akari
Starnum wrote:Also, the world has got to officially know that Japan is actually called Nippon, by its inhabitants. However, the majority of people just don't care. We're all just too lazy and disrespectful to correct it. It's easy just to be stubborn and do it our own way. I find it all sad, that's all *shrugs*.
Wait a moment. It's not disrespect to call Japan ... Japan. :sweat: It's normal.
Would you like to call German - Deutschland, just because germans use that word to call their country?

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:11 am
by Starnum
akari wrote:Would you like to call German - Deutschland, just because germans use that word to call their country?

Yes, and all the other countries too.

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 4:03 pm
by akari
Starnum wrote:
akari wrote:Would you like to call German - Deutschland, just because germans use that word to call their country?
Yes, and all the other countries too.
You couldn't possibly be able to pronounce all of them well. So it's good to have your own words for them in your mother language. (It's better than wrong pronunciation of original words IMO).
... but perhaps you could (?) - that just means you're special.
I bet 80% of other people couldn't, so it's better this way.

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 2:25 am
by raziel
After the capture of Dolrey castle and Griffith's popularity, Lord Owen comments on the increasing amount of enemies Griffith may have:

"The stronger the light, the thicker the shadows will fall"

Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:41 am
by PosseINeedYou
Volume 10 when Gutts pushes the jailer into the abyss after cutting his tongue out and says "I can't hear you. Speak clearly."

Also "A forest of ghosts... When he first stepped out, lit by a flash of lightning, those words sprang into my mind. He is... in front of me now, this man... no longer looks kinds!"

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:03 am
by ryusenka
"Damn straight!! It's puck!!" - puck

Best quote ever.

Another good quote
"She'll(Caska) bite it right off" - Guts

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:45 am
by Quest
i dont have any particular favourite quote. the only one i can even remember is: "when you meet God, tell him to leave me alone."

literally,
chibi=short or shorty.
ryusenka wrote:"Damn straight!! It's puck!!" - puck
shouldnt you change your sig then?
=)

Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:23 pm
by Eldo
Change your avatar to 180 px height, ryusenka. Read the rules regarding it.

edit: change your signature too please. read the rules regarding it -- psi29a

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 7:01 pm
by Sandman
"Everyones safe.... a few shapeds darker brown, but hey good job." Guts

Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:15 pm
by dialdfordesi
Hate is a place where a man, who can't stand sadness, goes. Revenge is darker than a bloodstain. Sadness is a dagger sharpened to strike at your heart. As days pass by, it only gets sharper and sharper. The only thing that's left is the sharp power of it.
-Godo