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It is possible he is not in the height of his power currently since he is on the material plane and most of his power is still as a god's hand. but my thoughts are he is trying to allow other god's hands to influence the world OR give himself more power in the world (on the other hand not like he needs it)
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Stupid theory: Skellig is Japan.
Or maybe Skellig is in the Bermuda triangle, which explains why ships keep getting lost there. It's what happens when a ship crashes into Skellig, since of course they can't see it until they run into it.
That would be hilarious.
Sadly, thats not the way reality layers work. If it was, then people would stumble with (invisible) trolls and whatnot every time they took a stroll through the forest.
Ah, but in this case it isn't that Skellig has existed at a different layer of reality, but rather that the witches who live there cast a spell of invisibility over the place, so ships can still crash into it on accident. As to why they set it up that way instead of the way Flora designed her home, my guess would be they did it for fun, because they think it's amusing.
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You really think wizards are that mean? ... no, you're right, it's a lot like the whole siren thing, with cerces and other stories of the like. the odyessy i'm referring to if anyone is confused. at this point i think that berserk will become a full on greek tragedy, just like troy, where our hero dies in a stupid way, just to show how fragile we humans are.
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The Herald wrote:You really think wizards are that mean? ... no, you're right, it's a lot like the whole siren thing, with cerces and other stories of the like. the odyessy i'm referring to if anyone is confused. at this point i think that berserk will become a full on greek tragedy, just like troy, where our hero dies in a stupid way, just to show how fragile we humans are.

Some say that the name Shiercke comes from the bastardization of Circe.
Even if that's not true, it is undeniable (well....I cant deny it) that Miura has taken lots of elements from Classic Greek tragedies and incorporated them to Berserk under a different light. The struggle against one's fate, for example, is the defining characteristic of Greek Epics.
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I just hope that Guts' struggle against fate won't end up like Oedipus', where his struggle led to the fulfillment of his prophecies. It may be the way things go, however, since the people that usually beat fate are the tricksters and Guts has never been one to take anything but a direct approach.
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dialdfordesi wrote:I just hope that Guts' struggle against fate won't end up like Oedipus', where his struggle led to the fulfillment of his prophecies. It may be the way things go, however, since the people that usually beat fate are the tricksters and Guts has never been one to take anything but a direct approach.
If you are Bugs Bunny perhaps.....

But in the end who has ever beat fate in a Greek tragedy?
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dialdfordesi wrote:I just hope that Guts' struggle against fate won't end up like Oedipus', where his struggle led to the fulfillment of his prophecies. It may be the way things go, however, since the people that usually beat fate are the tricksters and Guts has never been one to take anything but a direct approach.
I'm not so sure about that direct approach business. One of the things Guts excells at is split-second choices based on his amazing reaction speed. He's basically a master of improvization. I could easily see some fated situation coming up and him escaping the "inescapable" destiny by basically making some split-second decision and seeing the (supposedly impossible) way through.

Not sure if that made sense, but it's the best I can explain it at the moment.
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I think Heracles beat his fate. Yes, he did kill his first batch of kids, but after repentance he came back and led a great life. Now Medea is another one, she also succeeded by doing something wrong, which was leave her husband and kill the children she had with him so that he would later have no claim to her throne through their children. Horrible, yes, but still necessary to succeed ... sound familiar to anyone we know and love?
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maybe the relationship between the Skull Knight and Flora was such along time ago, or similiar to what Schierke and Guts will form. Nonetheless, I expect Schierke will play an increasingly significant role in upcoming chapters.

I predict Caska will die before she has a chance to regain her memory, but not soon enough that the story behind her is not given a chance to be revealed to the others, which is probably going to happen soon, as well as his past.

I think it is a certainty that Guts will get a power-up in Elfhelm.
Here are some options:
-a new sword (it's unlikely he will get new armor as he just got some)
-magical powers similiar to the Skull Knight
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You saw what he did with magical powers against the Kushan demons, I bet Schierke will have further importance in a combat support role

He will also go on some quest to save the good people of Elfhelm and test out his new abilities

Schierke and Guts have something in common, they both would like revenge on Griffith. Farenese, Serpico, and Isidro, as well as all the other characters accompanying Guts, will likely be cast aside as the story progresses.

That's what I expect will happen. Miura might kill off everyone except Schierke and Guts
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I still think that Farnese is too important, even moreso that Schierke, because of her dynamic. She is one of the most dynamic, and in many ways is Guts' foil. It's pretty obvious about the relationship between Guts and Scheirke though, being like Flora and the SK. Though, we don't really know the extent of that relationship now do we?
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The Herald wrote:I still think that Farnese is too important, even moreso that Schierke, because of her dynamic. She is one of the most dynamic, and in many ways is Guts' foil. It's pretty obvious about the relationship between Guts and Scheirke though, being like Flora and the SK. Though, we don't really know the extent of that relationship now do we?
I expect this relationship between Guts and Schierke to progress into the highlight of the story surrounding Guts in future chapters

I personally like Farnese, even more with her long hair that she unfortunately cut off. I expect she will end up with Serpico, though. Seeing as how she is learning magic now, she may also play a more critical role in future events.

I think someone within this group will betray Guts somehow.

What does everyone else think, then?
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I think Farnese's brother is a prime candidate for betrayal. He's weak, out for himself, and he decided to go to Skellig because Puck said he could make a profit.
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I agree.

I am eager to learn what will happen in Elfhelm, though. Without a doubt in my mind, I know it is going to be big.

It won't be so simple as Guts dropping off Caska and going back to get revenge. Things are going to take a completely different course, that's what I'm counting on.

I really do believe some serious stuff will happen. People that have been accompanying Guts up until now may die. Caska may even die soon. The demon dog in Guts will begin to maifest itself more. I don't know
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turkey wrote:
The Herald wrote:I still think that Farnese is too important, even moreso that Schierke, because of her dynamic. She is one of the most dynamic, and in many ways is Guts' foil. It's pretty obvious about the relationship between Guts and Scheirke though, being like Flora and the SK. Though, we don't really know the extent of that relationship now do we?
I expect this relationship between Guts and Schierke to progress into the highlight of the story surrounding Guts in future chapters

I personally like Farnese, even more with her long hair that she unfortunately cut off. I expect she will end up with Serpico, though. Seeing as how she is learning magic now, she may also play a more critical role in future events.

I think someone within this group will betray Guts somehow.

What does everyone else think, then?
Farnese is more important that Schierke, evident by what insights the story has given into her life. In the manga she was also one of the few characters who was shown before the great eclipse. And she is not going to end up with Serpico for four reasons: 1. he's her brother, and he knows he's her brother 2. she already threw herself at him when she was naked when they were only slightly younger and he rejected her, which thereby gives her no cause to think that anything would happen again 3. she's in love with Guts 4. she's got Roderick as a backup.

As for betrayal, I don't think Magnifico is going to have that big a role to play, it's going to be someone else. I'm suspecting Casca, after she's regained some of her sanity.
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Wouldn't it be something. The behelit Gutts is carrying is in actually meant for Casca, who ends up summoning the Godhand, or actually becomes a Godhand herself (maybe replacing Slain)? It seems to me that Slain prior to be a demon queen, was close to the Skull Night and actually maybe had something. She must have betrayed him.
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dialdfordesi wrote:I think Farnese's brother is a prime candidate for betrayal. He's weak, out for himself, and he decided to go to Skellig because Puck said he could make a profit.
I don't know IMO the guy seems to have is act together.....When you consider he is secretly plotting with Puck to take over Skellig with the hopes of breeding elves for export. Brilliant!
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I agree, Magnifico has got it together. He's not a warrior, he's a politician, a merchant, and he's good at what he does. He is one of the sons of the legendary Vandimion family. Don't you think you all (all eg members) would shit themselves upon seeing those demon tigers just like Magnifico did? Like hell you wouldn't. He was lucky his sister was there to take the tiger's eye out with that candle stick. I also agree that Casca is a prime candidate for a new apostle. She could be like Griffith's apostle lover and Charlotte his human lover. It's perfect!
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Now if only there was someone left for her to sacrifice...wait, she can sacrifice Rickert! He hasn't been branded yet!
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nah, I don't think Caska is going to become a Apostle or God-hand. I bet there is g oing to be a big catch to her having her memory restored, though. If she even gets it restored, that is.
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You know, I am wondering whether there are any female apostles?
Maybe Slan was a dude before becoming a godhand and when she became Slan she had a gender change?
Casca could become a apostle and sacrifice her femininity for it.
You never know. :lol:
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Nah, I'm sure Slann was a woman. Besides, I don't think you can really sacrifice something like a concept or gender, it needs to be living people as far as I can tell, you know? We've seen female apostles too, like the chick that killed Corkus. She's also the very first apostle we see Gatts kill. It's the very first thing you see in Berserk, on the first page of the first volume. Gatts and her were doin' "it" and then when she transformed he blew her head off with his cannon. She thought she had lured him into a trap, but really it was the other way around. He knew who she was and he was getting revenge for Corkus, yes, even for Corkus. Heh, I always thought that was cool. Berserk is awesome from the first page. ;)
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Don't forget about the pirkaf (sp?) girl.
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or, according to some, Rakshas.
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Is there a reason people assume the behilt that gutts carry's is for caska? until i saw everyone talk about it i never got the impression it would be for her. then again in retrospec it seemed to obvious for it to be for gutts.

Now wouldn't it be awsome if it was for puck? i mean he is always in the bag with it...

on that note i wonder if only normal humans are able to become apostles? (ruleing out elfs, possible witches that i can think of)
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There's no way to know, it could just be bringing it to it's next (unknown) owner.
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