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I already knew about the SK.net diagram, in fact, I have it in my photobucket account.

Still, I thought it would be pretty difficult to explain my point if i used such a complex diagram (ok, its not that complex, but for what I wanted to explain, it was), so i decided to just make one on my own. I know it sucked, but i never intended it to be anything more than what it is......a kinder garden level drawing with little characters made on paint.
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It's Elfhelm you fool, ELFHELM! :P
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Rolos wrote:I already knew about the SK.net diagram, in fact, I have it in my photobucket account.

Still, I thought it would be pretty difficult to explain my point if i used such a complex diagram (ok, its not that complex, but for what I wanted to explain, it was), so i decided to just make one on my own. I know it sucked, but i never intended it to be anything more than what it is......a kinder garden level drawing with little characters made on paint.
It was only until reading your diagram that I finally understood the concept of the Berserk mythos. I feel enlightened, and will now read Berserk with a whole new perspective.
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This is one of the chapters of berserk I'm looking for more action than usual.

[spoiler]The kushan will fall in femto's hands hahahaha!Can't wait I hope he doesn't become as strong as a god hand though[/spoiler]
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Going by what I've seen on other threads, 293 should be out on Feb 22. If that's true, then all of this tension with Griffith and the Kushans should be resolved soon, and then Griffith will be king and everyone will love him. There's still the wonder of what's going to happen with all of the apostles, and the refugees, and the kushans. Wow, Miura's world sure does have a lot of mess to clean up. And this doesn't even include Guts' side of the story because he's always been outside of the normal everyday dealings of the people.
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Rolos Drawings > Skull Night Diagram..

But Damn Rolo have you ever heard of Photoshop? 8)

I concur that Muira does have a significant amount of plot to produce. Let's hope that he doesn't croak before this
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There is an implication that their will be an eclipse like event @ Wyndham when the Upgraded Emperor and Griffith Face-Off again. How could this occur since Wyndham has been evacuated and their will be no one to sacrifice. I guess we can speculate that the God Hand members will appear during the final battle between the Griffith and Emperor. But what for? A proper scolding or bitch slapping? Shall the Emperor Polish Griffith's Terd amongst the God Hand?
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Well we know that at the eclipse one has to sacrifice that which is dearest to them. That's why the count couldn't sacrifice Guts, because he only despised him. Seeing as Griffith probably only cares for his dream now, wouldn't that mean he has to sacrifice his dream at the next eclipse?

Or maybe the emperor himself will lead the eclipse?

Dunno but I hope to see the events unfold soon.
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I really doubt there is going to be an Eclipse. All this Eclipse speculation got started when the children of Whyndam had a dream about a giant shadow blocking out the sky. I think it was made pretty clear in the last chapter that the giant shadow is going to be the super-powered Ganishka.
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Gemino wrote:
I concur that Muira does have a significant amount of plot to produce. Let's hope that he doesn't croak before this
happens.

There is an implication that their will be an eclipse like event @ Wyndham when the Upgraded Emperor and Griffith Face-Off again. How could this occur since Wyndham has been evacuated and their will be no one to sacrifice. I guess we can speculate that the God Hand members will appear during the final battle between the Griffith and Emperor. But what for? A proper scolding or bitch slapping? Shall the Emperor Polish Griffith's Terd amongst the God Hand?
Turd Ferguson wrote:I really doubt there is going to be an Eclipse. All this Eclipse speculation got started when the children of Whyndam had a dream about a giant shadow blocking out the sky. I think it was made pretty clear in the last chapter that the giant shadow is going to be the super-powered Ganishka.
Don't know where you are all coming to your conclusions. The premonition specifically foretold of the event occuring once the fog had already lifted from the city. It also described a black sun dawning over Wyndham, and the shadow shown portraying the prophecy was outlined by a huge tornado. BTW I don't see any reason for the GH appearing during the actual conflict whatsoever.....as if Griffith would have any need of assistance.

Not sure how many people in Wyndham actually recieved the prophecy (just the kids if I'm not mistaken). But I'm sure there will still be a lot of civilians hiding out in the city regardless of any such warning. Not to mention, there will be plenty of human soldiers from the New BOH and of the unified Vatican forces (lending their assistance) to make for plenty of human fodder in case of an eclipse. Remember what Griffith did to the original BOH, so I doubt he'll shed any tears sacrificing his comrades once again. Let alone any surviving Kushan. We already know that with the Apostle Army fighting at Griffith's side, a huge contigent of apostles will already be amassed in Wyndham at the proposed time of the dark premonition.

IMO, with the inevitable ascension of Griffith to the throne, the corresponding events leading up to it.......And lets not forget Guts journey to Elfhell finally coming to an end......Everything seems to be coming to a head.

For the past couple years, readers have had a good idea where Miura was trying to take things with the story. Though predictable, perhaps doing so was a necessary evil, leaving the reader all too comfortable, just prior to having the rug pulled out from under them.

I have faith in what Miura has in store for us in the coming year.

Aetherfukz wrote:Well we know that at the eclipse one has to sacrifice that which is dearest to them. That's why the count couldn't sacrifice Guts, because he only despised him. Seeing as Griffith probably only cares for his dream now, wouldn't that mean he has to sacrifice his dream at the next eclipse?
Interesting how such a scenario would mirror the course of events from a 1000 yrs prior regarding the fall of Gaesric's empire and the legend of the 4-angels. The remnants (prior kingdom) of which linger in the depths below the Tower of Rebirth, smack dab in the middle of where Wyndham now stands.
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The Prince wrote: Don't know where you are all coming to your conclusions. The premonition specifically foretold of the event occuring once the fog had already lifted from the city. It also described a black sun dawning over Wyndham, and the shadow shown portraying the prophecy was outlined by a huge tornado. BTW I don't see any reason for the GH appearing during the actual conflict whatsoever.....as if Griffith would have any need of assistance.
I would suggest you go back and read the chapters again. The prophecy doesn't say a black sun will dawn. It says a giant black shadow large enough to cover the entire city will block out the sun. An eclipse, being the result of the moon coming between the earth and the sun would appear as a "black sun," but that's not what was seen in the prophecy. There is a huge difference between a sun-sized shadow blocking out the sun and making it look black (eclipse) and a giant shadow that's covering the city (the prophecy).

Furthermore, the shadow shown in the prophecy is drawn in an intentionally ambiguous manner. Could the shadow be a tornado? Sure. Is it exclusively a tornado shape as you're suggesting? Absolutely not.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with your comment about the event occuring only after the fog has left the city. The fog has already left the city, as seen in the last chapter. If you're trying to suggest the shadow couldn't possibly be Ganishka because the fog is gone, then you're wrong. The fog is already gone, but Ganishka is still there.

The prophecy also states that a "shining bird" will summon a storm and blow the shadow away. There is no way this bird is anyone but Griffith. Since we know Griffith and Ganishka are going to be fighting, and we know the bird represents Griffith, then it seems pretty logical to conclude that the shadow the bird is opposing represents Ganishka.

Finally, look at how Daiba describes what Ganishka will be like once he is done in the reincarnator contraption. He says what comes forth will be "monumentally ominous." Maybe it's just me, but a "giant black shadow" that "will block out the sun" and is "really scary" and "big enough to cover the entire city" fits the description of something that is monumentally ominous like a glove.
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Turd Ferguson wrote:The prophecy also states that a "shining bird" will summon a storm and blow the shadow away.
Although the storm could be an eclipse viewed from outside. :D
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Aetherfukz wrote:
Turd Ferguson wrote:The prophecy also states that a "shining bird" will summon a storm and blow the shadow away.
Although the storm could be an eclipse viewed from outside. :D
I wouldn't argue against that possible scenario, but then the Eclipse would be the storm, not the giant black shadow. :smoken:
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It's a toss up between Ganishka and the Eclipse being that Large Dark Shadow in the Dream.

How about it being SLAN'S Huge God Head. It has the silouhette of her dome peice. :D
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Gemino wrote:It's a toss up between Ganishka and the Eclipse being that Large Dark Shadow in the Dream.

How about it being SLAN'S Huge God Head. It has the silouhette of her dome peice. :D
I really believe the evidence strongly suggests the shadow is Ganishka, but Miura can do whatever he wants so who knows what he'll end up throwing at us. Maybe the shadow will turn out to be Jar Jar Binks.
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Turd Ferguson wrote:
The Prince wrote: Don't know where you are all coming to your conclusions. The premonition specifically foretold of the event occuring once the fog had already lifted from the city. It also described a black sun dawning over Wyndham, and the shadow shown portraying the prophecy was outlined by a huge tornado. BTW I don't see any reason for the GH appearing during the actual conflict whatsoever.....as if Griffith would have any need of assistance.
I would suggest you go back and read the chapters again. The prophecy doesn't say a black sun will dawn. It says a giant black shadow large enough to cover the entire city will block out the sun. An eclipse, being the result of the moon coming between the earth and the sun would appear as a "black sun," but that's not what was seen in the prophecy. There is a huge difference between a sun-sized shadow blocking out the sun and making it look black (eclipse) and a giant shadow that's covering the city (the prophecy).

Furthermore, the shadow shown in the prophecy is drawn in an intentionally ambiguous manner. Could the shadow be a tornado? Sure. Is it exclusively a tornado shape as you're suggesting? Absolutely not.

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make with your comment about the event occuring only after the fog has left the city. The fog has already left the city, as seen in the last chapter. If you're trying to suggest the shadow couldn't possibly be Ganishka because the fog is gone, then you're wrong. The fog is already gone, but Ganishka is still there.
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I did go back and you make a good case Terd,....Damn it all!

Though, where was it suggested that the fog cleared in the last chapter?

Regardless, I will wager one of these brass nuts, that at at some point or another a blackened sun will appear over Wyndham!

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Maybe the shadow will turn out to be Jar Jar Binks.
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Aetherfukz wrote:
Turd Ferguson wrote:The prophecy also states that a "shining bird" will summon a storm and blow the shadow away.
Although the storm could be an eclipse viewed from outside. :D
You are a wise man.

Before 292 came out, after reading the children's prophecy in 291, and how it was described, I could have sworn these events were foreshadowing that of an eclipse. When the children mentioned specifically how a shadow blackening out the sun would appear subsequent to the Kushans and its monsters disappearing with the mist from the city, without knowing the events of 292, I concluded this inferred the elimination of the Kushans and Ganishka's presence from Wyndham altogether at the hands of Griffith and his army.

But now considering what we saw with the vaporization of the Kushan army and monsters, by Ganishka's deadly mist, I can see how the prophecy may we in fact be in reference to this. This notion is almost cemented considering the fact that we see an almost exact image portrayed and replicated here....with that foreseen in the prophecy.

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Preview of next chapter:

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Hm, curious.
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from the blog...
# Reginald_Funkenstein Says:
February 20th, 2008 at 9:36 am e

Then I’ll ad lib the speech bubble:

“Keep your guard up gents” “That foolish noob BlackAxez is sure to return; his pride wouldn’t have it any other way!”
This is a win - win for everyone. ;)
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Sweet, can't wait for the next chapter!

Anyway, I'm bored, at work, and I'm doing some overtime, so I made this. Because the very first thing I though of when seeing the preview pic and especially the frame and poses of the guys, was the Fellowship scene with the 9 kings of men:

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ok one thing i just cant wait to see the berserker armour again whos with me.
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psi29a wrote:from the blog...
# Reginald_Funkenstein Says:
February 20th, 2008 at 9:36 am e

Then I’ll ad lib the speech bubble:

“Keep your guard up gents” “That foolish noob BlackAxez is sure to return; his pride wouldn’t have it any other way!”
This is a win - win for everyone. ;)
Actually, BlackAxez has been 'back', using different usernames in the blog comments (I've checked the IP). He has never left, in my opinion.

Also, I do like the filled in bubbles that you and Mune did, it did bring a smile to my otherwise miserable day.
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and this one.

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Ok, both of those were really good, citanuzuki666.
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:thumb: I like the last one :twisted:
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So crazy and good it was syphilicious
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