Prediction of Gut's New Allies

[Eldo]

Well, I don't think Griffith saved her in the "I can't let her die" kind of way. It's hard to tell, but maybe he felt sorry for her, maybe guilty. Maybe he just doesn't want people to die anymore, or maybe he just wanted to make Guts suffer by doing something he wasn't able to do. Whatever the case is, I wouldn't call Caska "Griffith's weak spot," both she and Guts are far beneath his notice now.

Griffith saved her because of his 'conscience'. His vessel, Casca's baby, 'made' him. I don't think it was an act made purely on his own decision. It was the vessel that made him react.

And I think Caska is way out of her league with the kind of enemies Guts is facing now, even at her peak

Yeah, I kinda half agree with you. Remember, she got absolutely wasted by Wyald. Guts struggled fighting the 'regular' apostles (Snake Baron, Count, Roshinuu) But I think she'll stand more of a fighting chance once she arms herself with some enchanted magical weapons.

[Arresty]

It is true it doesnt really matter if Caska forgives Griffith or not... At least not if we look at her fighting ability...
But then again... Griffith saved her from the falling rocks (after Zodd dove into the fairy-cave) so that is also his weak spot. Maybe Gatsu will use her for bait!

My opinion on this matter, is it was the child who saved her. Griffith commented when he was hugging her that it was dealing with the influence of the vessel he had used. I am assuming at that moment it was the kid taking control to save her. Well not really taking control, but more putting the caring thought into Griffith's mind.

Like Guts said to Rickert when he wanted to go with guts when he found out about the eclipse, guts said he couldn't fight Griffith since he could never really hate him, I think caska would probably be like that too. though I hope I am wrong

I doubt she can actually forgive Griffith for what he did, but I also don't know if she could hate him like Guts does. If she regains her memory I think she would probably stay with Guts, but maybe not. I doubt she would go back to Griffith. If she does team up with Guts she would make a powerful ally, even though her technique may not be able to kill an apostle. She is still good with tactics and would be useful dealing with normal men. Also with practice, and possibly a magical weapon she could maybe become effective against weaker ones, but not close to what Serpico can do.

Their is a chance that when she regains her memory she may turn down both Guts and Griffith. Since I doubt she would want to go back to Griffith she won't do that. But if she can't honestly hate Griffith like Guts can then maybe she would refuse to help on the revenge. She may also hate Guts for letting it happen. She has blamed Guts for everything else that ever went wrong. She may do it again, and tell him to get lost.

Edit: I took forever to write this post and realized Eldo said the same thing as me about the child.

[Eldo]

Edit: I took forever to write this post and realized Eldo said the same thing as me about the child.

I said nearly the same thing about Casca too, well, along the lines .

I'm not entirely sure that once Casca regains her memory, she'll fight against Griffith and alongside Guts either. Once she faces the truths of reality, she'll regain her memory. I thought, at one point, once Casca regains her memory, she'll ask Guts to forget about revenge, and live happily ever in seclusion or something . But the series of events that occured so far changed my opinion for now.

[Arresty]

One thing I was thinking of when I wrote my long post over there. Well more just took me a while to write then long, but back on topic. I was thinking the story would suck if Miura ended it by Guts and Casca giving up on revenge and living happily ever after. I think if that is what Casca wanted I think Guts might actually follow her. But I doubt Miura would do that. Would be missing a great battle and all. Unless it all takes place at elfhelm. Since Casca doesn't have that revengeful personality, in my mind, I am doubt she will want to fight back. Now since it would suck with that I think what Miura may do, which also fits her personality, is she somewhat blames Guts, since none of it would have even happened had he not left. She may want to live her own life without him. That would really piss Guts off and that might send him back on the revenge path. And maybe also find a way to make Casca fall back in love with him. I think that could be a possible outcome.

[Libaax]

Thats impossible cause not even Casca can stop Guts from his revenge since he hate Griffith so much.

Also forgetting about wouldnt do anything for them, if Griffith takes over the world or whatever he wants its not like he is gonna forget Guts is alive. Also there is the thing about the brand that makes that they can never live in peace unless Griffith is wasted.

The things that has happened is too much to just forget.

[Gatzz]

It is true it doesnt really matter if Caska forgives Griffith or not... At least not if we look at her fighting ability...
But then again... Griffith saved her from the falling rocks (after Zodd dove into the fairy-cave) so that is also his weak spot. Maybe Gatsu will use her for bait!

My opinion on this matter, is it was the child who saved her. Griffith commented when he was hugging her that it was dealing with the influence of the vessel he had used. I am assuming at that moment it was the kid taking control to save her. Well not really taking control, but more putting the caring thought into Griffith's mind.



Doesnt matter if it was his vessel (i also read the same story...)
If it is something that he cannot control, it is his weak spot.
His "vessel" did everything in it's/his lifetime to protect Caska... and even Gatsu.

[Eldo]

Doesnt matter if it was his vessel (i also read the same story...)
If it is something that he cannot control, it is his weak spot.
His "vessel" did everything in it's/his lifetime to protect Caska... and even Gatsu.

If it his indeed his weak spot, then Guts would have to use Casca as bait...something he is not willing to do. The vessel's 'compassion' only extends to Casca, and I see no other method to exploit this 'weakness'.

[Libaax]

God Hands must have a weakness or else they would be perfect and we know nothing is perfect.

[Arresty]

Thats impossible cause not even Casca can stop Guts from his revenge since he hate Griffith so much.

Also forgetting about wouldnt do anything for them, if Griffith takes over the world or whatever he wants its not like he is gonna forget Guts is alive. Also there is the thing about the brand that makes that they can never live in peace unless Griffith is wasted.

The things that has happened is too much to just forget.

Well currently Guts cares more about Casca then he does about revenge. He would stay by her before taking revenge right now. Now also the brand may be a permanent curse, that we don't even know if killing Griffith will end it, just hope it does, but the brand does not attract evil in certain places. Like where Flora lived or the mine before it was destroyed, or Elfhelm. So they could settle in Elfhelm and then the brand would not attract evil. Also Griffith does not care about the existance of Guts. He does not care whether he is alive or dead. He would have already killed Guts if it mattered. Remember he said earlier that he is nothing. So to Griffith Guts doesn't matter.

[Femto]

God Hands must have a weakness or else they would be perfect and we know nothing is perfect.

Well, they are called GOD-Hand, so I'm assuming they're perfect. It would suck if they have some weakness though, I prefer it when Guts destroys Apostles by pure strength. I didn't like it when Guts defeated Mozgus after finding his "weak spot," it seemed a little cheesy to me. He did it with class though, which is why it doesn't bother me as much.

[Libaax]

Thats impossible cause not even Casca can stop Guts from his revenge since he hate Griffith so much.

Also forgetting about wouldnt do anything for them, if Griffith takes over the world or whatever he wants its not like he is gonna forget Guts is alive. Also there is the thing about the brand that makes that they can never live in peace unless Griffith is wasted.

The things that has happened is too much to just forget.

Well currently Guts cares more about Casca then he does about revenge. He would stay by her before taking revenge right now. Now also the brand may be a permanent curse, that we don't even know if killing Griffith will end it, just hope it does, but the brand does not attract evil in certain places. Like where Flora lived or the mine before it was destroyed, or Elfhelm. So they could settle in Elfhelm and then the brand would not attract evil. Also Griffith does not care about the existance of Guts. He does not care whether he is alive or dead. He would have already killed Guts if it mattered. Remember he said earlier that he is nothing. So to Griffith Guts doesn't matter.

Currently being the important word, i just dont think Guts would leave his revenge even if Casca begged him.

Also Griffith will stop thinking Guts is nothing when his army of apostles and monsters get fewer thansk to Guts.

[dos.azn]

God Hands must have a weakness or else they would be perfect and we know nothing is perfect.

Well, they are called GOD-Hand, so I'm assuming they're perfect. It would suck if they have some weakness though, I prefer it when Guts destroys Apostles by pure strength. I didn't like it when Guts defeated Mozgus after finding his "weak spot," it seemed a little cheesy to me. He did it with class though, which is why it doesn't bother me as much.

why would it be cheesy, everyone we've seen had a weak spot. wyald's weakness was that he was afraid to die/too distracted trying to fuck caska. mozgus's weakness was that lil opening thing. the count's weakness was his affection for his daughter. everyone of them has a weakness, gutts will just have to find what they are

[Arresty]

Thats impossible cause not even Casca can stop Guts from his revenge since he hate Griffith so much.

Also forgetting about wouldnt do anything for them, if Griffith takes over the world or whatever he wants its not like he is gonna forget Guts is alive. Also there is the thing about the brand that makes that they can never live in peace unless Griffith is wasted.

The things that has happened is too much to just forget.

Well currently Guts cares more about Casca then he does about revenge. He would stay by her before taking revenge right now. Now also the brand may be a permanent curse, that we don't even know if killing Griffith will end it, just hope it does, but the brand does not attract evil in certain places. Like where Flora lived or the mine before it was destroyed, or Elfhelm. So they could settle in Elfhelm and then the brand would not attract evil. Also Griffith does not care about the existance of Guts. He does not care whether he is alive or dead. He would have already killed Guts if it mattered. Remember he said earlier that he is nothing. So to Griffith Guts doesn't matter.

Currently being the important word, i just dont think Guts would leave his revenge even if Casca begged him.

Also Griffith will stop thinking Guts is nothing when his army of apostles and monsters get fewer thansk to Guts.

I really think Guts right now would not abandaon Casca no matter what. Also if Guts just went to elfhelm and they stopped thier Griffith would not care abuot him anymore. Maybe some of the apostles may want a crack at him since he is so strong, but Griffith could care less. He even said in V3 that he didnt' care that he was killing apostles.

[Femto]

God Hands must have a weakness or else they would be perfect and we know nothing is perfect.

Well, they are called GOD-Hand, so I'm assuming they're perfect. It would suck if they have some weakness though, I prefer it when Guts destroys Apostles by pure strength. I didn't like it when Guts defeated Mozgus after finding his "weak spot," it seemed a little cheesy to me. He did it with class though, which is why it doesn't bother me as much.

why would it be cheesy, everyone we've seen had a weak spot. wyald's weakness was that he was afraid to die/too distracted trying to fuck caska. mozgus's weakness was that lil opening thing. the count's weakness was his affection for his daughter. everyone of them has a weakness, gutts will just have to find what they are

I'm talking about physical weak spots, and I think Mozgus was the only one that had one. Maybe cheesy is not the word, but a "weak spot" on enemies is like the easy way out. It kinda reminds me of the Death of Superman. The fight with Doomsday was awesome, and you could really tell that he was powerful. Both he and Superman were beating the crap out of each other for many issues, but then Superman found a weak spot, and the battle was over in one issue. You're waiting for a grand finale to the fight, and then you realize that the whole battle was pointless because if Superman had known from the beginning how to attack, he wouldn't have died.

It's good for video games of course, but weak spots are generally not a good idea. Roshinu didn't have any weak spots I think, and that is one of the best fights in the series just because of how Guts manages to be inventive with his attacks. Would you like it, if the all-powerfull Zodd had a weak spot?

[dos.azn]

but mozgus' real weakness was his arrogance. im sure the others had physical weak spots too, but they werent as dumb and cocky enough as mozgus to leave them exposed. i mean really, mozgus was one cocky mofo

[Concealed_Rage]

Most likely if caska chooses not to seek revenge for Griffith actions "which is a good chance", guts would leave her at the safe haven "Elfhelm". If you remember, that was the original reason they were going there, to find a safe place where caska's brand wouldn't attract all types of demons "has something to do with elves, i don't remember". Guts would leave her there while he continued on no matter how much she pleaded "i am sure it would eat him up inside", because he is already to involved and dedicated to the destruction of the gods hand "or just one of the members anyway" and who is to say they would be safe if they stayed at Elfhelm, how long before Griffith realizes that guts and his group is getting stronger and stronger every passing day, disposing of his apostles with no sign of stopping, how long before they are deemed a threat and Griffith sends his army to destroy them like he did with the witch of the woods. he has to fight if he wants to live and escape the fate of all who are tied to the gods hand, hell.

As for a happy ending ha, this is berserk this is guts. I cant see a happy ending with guts, I foresee a ending similar to cowboy bebop.

[Grahf]

Point put nicely Femto. I agree that the "weak point" in the armor is pretty lame.

[Starnum]

Yeah, we don't want all the enemies having weak spots. Mozgus was enough, maybe another later on, but that's about it.

[Arresty]

With Mozgus I woudl have loved to see Guts finally muscle his way through that armor. That woudl have been a much cooler ending then, oh I can poke here, that was easy.

[Libaax]

Most likely if caska chooses not to seek revenge for Griffith actions "which is a good chance", guts would leave her at the safe haven "Elfhelm". If you remember, that was the original reason they were going there, to find a safe place where caska's brand wouldn't attract all types of demons "has something to do with elves, i don't remember". Guts would leave her there while he continued on no matter how much she pleaded "i am sure it would eat him up inside", because he is already to involved and dedicated to the destruction of the gods hand "or just one of the members anyway" and who is to say they would be safe if they stayed at Elfhelm, how long before Griffith realizes that guts and his group is getting stronger and stronger every passing day, disposing of his apostles with no sign of stopping, how long before they are deemed a threat and Griffith sends his army to destroy them like he did with the witch of the woods. he has to fight if he wants to live and escape the fate of all who are tied to the gods hand, hell.

As for a happy ending ha, this is berserk this is guts. I cant see a happy ending with guts, I foresee a ending similar to cowboy bebop.

Exactly!!

everything you just said is what i have been trying to say in my last posts.

About the happy ending it cant be one in Berserk even if Guts deservs one.

one.

[Starnum]

Yeah, Mozgus' weak zone was CCBB.

That's a Xenosaga II reference, by the way.

As for the happy ending, you can't say that it's not possible that there will be one, as you don't know that for sure. I think there will be, but I'm not saying it's a definite thing. We'll just have to wait and see.

[Libaax]

Well i didnt say i knew for sure that there wont be a happy ending in Berserk but it just feels like it wont have one.


About the God Hands weakness im talking about something like the humancolus in FMA that they are week against their human remains or something like that.

Cause no matter how strong Guts gets he cant do anything against Femto if he bleeds to death by go near Femto.

[Eldo]

I don't believe Guts will be the one to bring down the God Hand. Even SK couldn't harm him. That's not saying it's not possible though, but not with the current strength the group's in. There's gonna be magic-a-brewing...

God I'm TIRED.

[Libaax]

I don't believe Guts will be the one to bring down the God Hand. Even SK couldn't harm him. That's not saying it's not possible though, but not with the current strength the group's in. There's gonna be magic-a-brewing...

God I'm TIRED.

Guts must be the one bring down Femto or else there is no point to everything he has done after the eclipse.

Yeah the current group streangt is very week thats why i hope he find stronger people than Serpico and co. The witch is the only one who is usefull to Guts.

[Eldo]

I said the God Hand as a whole, not Femto alone.

No matter how many people they have, and how strong they are, they *cannot* beat the God Hand, or even a small measly group of apostles. I believe there's gonna be something else that Muira intends to surprise us with that will make it possible to take down the God Hand. And that's stating the OBVIOUS. Berserk is one of those anime that you cannot predict the ending to. Mainly because the gap in power between our heroes and the villians are so great.