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[Aetherfukz]

Indeed. Eureka Seven certainly did NOT jump the shark at any point in the series.

[papasith]

"Jumping the shark is a colloquialism coined by Jon Hein and used by TV critics and fans to denote the point in a television program's or file series' history where the plot veers off into absurd story lines or out-of-the-ordinary characterizations. This usually corresponds to the point where a show with falling ratings apparently becomes more desperate to draw in viewers. In the process of undergoing these changes, the TV or movie series loses its original appeal. Shows that have "jumped the shark" are typically deemed to have passed their peak."

most of these anime's and what not have a big turning point or twist (see m night shamayln) which can be good or bad.

my opinion is when a twist happens in an anime, such as eureka 7, it can be what divides it from a good and a bad anime . How the "twist" is handled and how the characters grow and develop because of it are a big part of what i enjoy from a story.

but then again some people watch shows for the action and couldn't care about the story line or charcater development *shrug*

[The Prince]

The Fonz will always be cool in my book.......

[Aetherfukz]

"Jumping the shark is a colloquialism coined by Jon Hein and used by TV critics and fans to denote the point in a television program's or file series' history where the plot veers off into absurd story lines or out-of-the-ordinary characterizations. This usually corresponds to the point where a show with falling ratings apparently becomes more desperate to draw in viewers. In the process of undergoing these changes, the TV or movie series loses its original appeal. Shows that have "jumped the shark" are typically deemed to have passed their peak."

There wasn't so much a point in Eureka 7 where a twist occured, it was rather a gradual build up to that. And, as you quoted, jumping the shark implys falling ratings which Eureka 7 certainly did not have. It also did not lose its original appeal, because from episode 1 on it was clear that the LFOs were kinda like Evangelions with their own will. All these points are true for Berserk too (although the eclipse "twist" in the anime was rather harsh) - so I'd say it's just a case of the Herald throwing around buzzwords. No offense.

[papasith]

eh mabe twist was a bad way of phraseing it, i liked what happened in them, i guess i will say wihen the tone, and or events i nthe anime/ story changed, instead fo twist

[Aetherfukz]

No matter the semantic, Eureka 7 did not jump the shark. Jumping the shark is a defined term, so saying Berserk and/or Eureka 7 jumped the shark (like the Herald did) is just flat out wrong. One might not like where the story goes, but one cannot accuse something of jumping the shark when, by definition, it didn't.

[arke]

And, as you quoted, jumping the shark implys falling ratings which Eureka 7 certainly did not have.

You've got it backwards. Shows "jump the shark" for a variety of reasons, one of which is falling ratings. However, they could have strong ratings the entire time and simply veer off into weird territory by the writers running out of ideas (middle of BSG comes to mind here). HTH.

[papasith]

i feel like you are trying to argue with me when i am on the same side of the arguement as you, as i was saying it did not "jump the shark" but thats all my input (been off topic long enough )

i started blassreter today, seem pretty good i have high hopes for it

[The Herald]

No matter the semantic, Eureka 7 did not jump the shark. Jumping the shark is a defined term, so saying Berserk and/or Eureka 7 jumped the shark (like the Herald did) is just flat out wrong. One might not like where the story goes, but one cannot accuse something of jumping the shark when, by definition, it didn't.

Obviously I'm using the term loosely, but I never said that Berserk has 'jumped the shark':

All the shit changed and its so vastly different, its almost at the point where it's jumped the shark, but because it's released so slowly it feels like it has gone on forever, the story, while in reality not much as happened.

As for Eureka 7 I apologize, I was wrong with what I said, and I've let it known before that I hate animes with existential shit like that going on. [spoiler]I was all excited about how the people of the planet they were on was not connected to Earth but in some other solar system and they had lost connection with Earth for some reason. I absolutely hated how Earth was no longer inhabited, and that made no sense to me. I believe that was to what I was referring when I said jumped the shark. I've learned my lesson, don't use that term again (though from how my film teacher used it I was under the impression I was using it correctly)[/spoiler]

[Aetherfukz]

@arke: Yeah, jumping the shark isn't that clearcut, but still usually more than 1 of those facts combine to let a show jump it. Just falling ratings without any major change in the plot or setting doesn't imply jumping the shark. It just means audience losing interest with the themes of the show, or executive meddling (Firefly was cut because apparently not enough people watched it, yet I think nobody would imply the show jumped the shark).

@papasith: Yeah, we're on the same side

@topic: Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is so awesome. I love how the series (just as the first) manages to shift from something very serious in one second to a completely lough out loud joke in the next, and still after that the serious tone isn't lessened by it. And they are really faithful to the manga this time, and the story is fast paced, which I like. I should read up on the manga again, I stopped reading some year and a half ago[spoiler]IIRC after the chapter where scar supposedly takes Winry as a hostage so Ed and Al could fight Gimbley (if that was his name, the balls out insame state alchemist with a ponytail).[/spoiler]

[Rolos]

Started watching Gintama.
Meh.
Meh.
Meh.
A thousand Meh's.

The jokes are funny, I know they are, but the laughter just doesn't come. I cant put my finger in what makes the jokes un-funny, all I know is that I don't feel inclined to laugh when I hear them.


Besides, every time they speak of the Amanto, I cant help but think its just a very thinly veiled insult towards Occident in general.

[Starnum]

No matter the semantic, Eureka 7 did not jump the shark. Jumping the shark is a defined term, so saying Berserk and/or Eureka 7 jumped the shark (like the Herald did) is just flat out wrong. One might not like where the story goes, but one cannot accuse something of jumping the shark when, by definition, it didn't.

Obviously I'm using the term loosely, but I never said that Berserk has 'jumped the shark':

All the shit changed and its so vastly different, its almost at the point where it's jumped the shark, but because it's released so slowly it feels like it has gone on forever, the story, while in reality not much as happened.

As for Eureka 7 I apologize, I was wrong with what I said, and I've let it known before that I hate animes with existential shit like that going on. [spoiler]I was all excited about how the people of the planet they were on was not connected to Earth but in some other solar system and they had lost connection with Earth for some reason. I absolutely hated how Earth was no longer inhabited, and that made no sense to me. I believe that was to what I was referring when I said jumped the shark. I've learned my lesson, don't use that term again (though from how my film teacher used it I was under the impression I was using it correctly)[/spoiler]

I haven't seen all of Eureka Seven yet, but even I know that it didn't "jump the shark". You have a better understanding of the phrase now though, so it's fine. No need to beat a dead horse. Unless it's possessed by an evil spirit and trying to rape Farnese, then you can beat it all you like, heh. You don't like existential mecha anime? Ah, that's too bad. I think of myself as an existentialist, so I love it! It's almost like it's own sub-genre of mecha anime these days. I haven't seen all the different ones yet, I think, but I've liked the ones that I have seen.

[The Herald]

No I like the ones with aliens and far flung space travel, hence the interest in Macross. But if I had to choose what I liked better, The Galaxy Railways, with no mecha, or Gundam Wing with tons of it, I'd have to say I like the first better. I like Starwars for the aliens, not the machines, so the same goes for anime with me. I thought that Eureka 7 was going to go down the alien route, not the existentialist route, so that pissed me off. But on a scale of 1 to 10 of enjoying it, I gave it an 8, and it only lost two points because of what I've previously said. But what I love about Eureka 7 are the characters and music, haven't seen stuff that good in a while. Does Eureka 7 have a corresponding manga?

[Rolos]

Just watched the latest episode of TMOHS S2.

Brilliant.

[spoiler]They have completely captured the feeling of tedium this arc was supposed to give off. I seriously wanted to punch the screen when I realized it was going to be just another loop.
To do something this unpopular, something so little people will understand, just for the sake of creating the proper atmosphere for the last episode of the arc takes balls. Real courage.
I admire the creators of this series. I really do.[/spoiler]

[Aetherfukz]

Uh, Haruhi S2 6 is out? Gotta download that straight after work today.

Also, I finished Darker Than Black yesterday. Very cool series. And although the ending doesn't really tell us what the hell Contractors, Dolls, and the Gates REALLY are, it's a nice ending without too much cliffhangerisms. Still, can't wait for the second season which will air this october (and hopefully still have Hei, Mao and the gang as protagonists).

[spoiler]Awesome, it seems Hei, Yin AND Mao will be back for more action and philosophical slice of life scenes:
[/spoiler]

[Starnum]

Well I'm only on episode 33 of Eureka Seven, but I'm a little surprised at all the crazy shit that's happening in the show now. I always knew there was something up with Eureka, but I wasn't expecting this other stuff so much. Well you could tell there was something weird about the planet too, so I guess I just didn't know what to expect. I'm totally digging it though, interesting concept. I've had similar ideas before for a Sci-Fi story about the planet being kind of like that.

[spoiler]By "like that", I mean the concept of the planet being a living sentient being. I assume that's what they're getting at with the "anti-bodies" and shit. I mean, you can't get anymore obvious than that. The concept of humankind being a parasite on the planet isn't knew, but this is the first time I've seen it in an anime like this. Of course, I still haven't seen it all, so there may be another big twist I don't know about or something. So I'll leave it at that for now. Oh, also the stuff with the mecha, and how they also seem to be alive, reminds me of Eva. I like the way they're handling it in this anime though, they're doing alright at making it their own, you know? At least their explanation of the origins and nature of the mecha are more detailed. It does remind me a little of Eva though, but that's okay. I don't mind when shows borrow concepts from other things, as long as they make it their own, and I think this show does that.[/spoiler]

Yeah, I'm really enjoying the show a lot more now. I'm just surprised it took them nearly 30 episodes to start explaining things, but that's how it goes sometimes. I enjoyed the show before, but you could always tell there was something more that they weren't telling you. Now that shit is starting to hit the fan, I'm really starting to get into.

[Rolos]

Uh, Haruhi S2 6 is out? Gotta download that straight after work today. Also, I finished Darker Than Black yesterday. Very cool series. And although the ending doesn't really tell us what the hell Contractors, Dolls, and the Gates REALLY are, it's a nice ending without too much cliffhangerisms. Still, can't wait for the second season which will air this october (and hopefully still have Hei, Mao and the gang as protagonists). [spoiler]Awesome, it seems Hei, Yin AND Mao will be back for more action and philosophical slice of life scenes: [/spoiler]

You should read the new Darker Than Black manga in the meantime.
Its supposed to be the intermediate stage between Season 1 and 2.
Dude, do you know of any good series I could watch right now? I am kinda out of good ones.

Well I'm only on episode 33 of Eureka Seven, but I'm a little surprised at all the crazy shit that's happening in the show now. I always knew there was something up with Eureka, but I wasn't expecting this other stuff so much. Well you could tell there was something weird about the planet too, so I guess I just didn't know what to expect. I'm totally digging it though, interesting concept. I've had similar ideas before for a Sci-Fi story about the planet being kind of like that.

You should watch Blue Gender.

[Aetherfukz]

Haruhi S2 06: Meh. Meh. Meh. Yeah I get it that they are stuck and it sucks [for them]. But after 5 episodes of it the joke (if it even is one) gets kinda old. Still, its not like it didn't devour the episode, seeing as there are always subtle differences, and Kyon... just Kyon. Without Kyon I would have never watched more than the first episode of Haruhi. He's witty, he's ironic, he's genre savvy, he's awesome. Best narrator ever, as I said before.

Bleach 228: While at the start I thought, WTF, 24 minutes of straight up fanservice? - This was an episode of Bleach that made me really laugh out loud more than just a few times, something which Bleach wasn't able to do since, I dunno, probably the times when Renji, Ikkaku and some others went to Ichigos School for a time (Hilarity ensued) which I think was aroud the Bounto arc? While Bleach may always made me smile or giggle, this episode was REALLY fun. I can live (and I rather like) those kind of filler episodes. Byakuka in beach-wear? Hilarious. Seeing what he builds in the sandcastle contest after seeing what Rukia did? I couldn't stop laughing. Also, Boob Buckets...

Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is also really taking off with the last few episodes. Can't wait for the next one [spoiler]wherer Mustang will "kill" Maria Ross. That story arc was so awesome in the Manga.[/spoiler]

@Rolos: Do you know which group does the Darker than Black manga? I'm really interested in reading it. But I only saw links to a chinese translation once
Also, about anime suggestions. I dunno, too. All the good stuff I have at home you've seen already (and some I got because of recommendation on this board anyway), but stuff that I still have on my to-watch list when I don't know what to watch include:
- Heibane Renmei
- Coyote Ragtime Show
- Gokusen
- Shakugan no Shana

I don't know more than their respective wikipedia entries (without spoilers) about these series, but always read good stuff about them. And if you haven't watched Genshiken season 1+2 already, you should definately do it, it's really funny and.. um.. slice-of-life'y

[Starnum]

You should watch Blue Gender.

Another friend of mine has also recommended this series to me, so I'll probably check it out sometime, thanks.

[papasith]

You should watch Blue Gender.

Another friend of mine has also recommended this series to me, so I'll probably check it out sometime, thanks.

I will give a third, i think you would like it

[Rolos]

@Rolos: Do you know which group does the Darker than Black manga? I'm really interested in reading it. But I only saw links to a chinese translation once

http://mangashare.com/release/info/1508/1

Also, about anime suggestions. I dunno, too. All the good stuff I have at home you've seen already (and some I got because of recommendation on this board anyway), but stuff that I still have on my to-watch list when I don't know what to watch include:
- Heibane Renmei
- Coyote Ragtime Show
- Gokusen
- Shakugan no Shana

I don't know more than their respective wikipedia entries (without spoilers) about these series, but always read good stuff about them. And if you haven't watched Genshiken season 1+2 already, you should definately do it, it's really funny and.. um.. slice-of-life'y

Thanks dude!

PD: I've watched both seasons of Genshiken. Freaking hilarious. I thought the first season was just ok, but the second one was really good.


EDIT: Good GOD! I just read the first chapter of the Darker Than Black manga, and its pure crap! I haven't read anything this bad since...ever! I cant remember ever reading something so artificial, contrived, boring, pointless! How could you possibly take something so good, and turn it into pure, distilled bovine feces?
sigh....the worst part is that I am still gonna read the whole thing, for the sake of the story.....

[Rolos]

Just watched the first episode of Gokusen. The story seems a little stereotypical (GTO + estrogen), but some things about the setting look interesting. I'm refraining from forming an opinion for the moment.

[Starnum]

I finished Eureka Seven, the ending was pretty awesome. I think I might watch Casshern Sins next. I watched the first couple of episodes and it looked like something I would like as well. I'm going to download Blue Gender and watch it after that probably. Thanks for the recommendation guys. I'll keep my eyes open for other suggestions for shows to watch in the future, so you guys keep on posting about stuff.

[Aetherfukz]

Watched "The place promised in our early days" a few days ago. Overall I liked it but the story was rather... strange. Like a lovestory coupled with science experiments about parallel worlds strange.

Also I started with Heibane Ranmei yesterday, watched 2 episodes so far. Really interesting plot premise: First scene, a girl falls from the sky, some time later she awakes in a city where there are Heibane (which have angelic wings and halos, but wear casual clothes, work in bakeries, etc. One even smokes a lot). The girl also grows wings which looks extremly painful and bloody, and she gets a halo which is some electric thingy it seems because at first her hairs get pulled up all the time through static. Strange premise but looks very interesting. Gotta watch more of it after work.

[Rolos]

Just finished watching The Wings of Honneamise.

Beautiful.

Thats the only word that comes to my mind when trying to describe it.

The animation was remarkably good, the art style, if a little archaic, agreeable to the eyes, the characters, easy to sympathize (despite the outlandishness of everything about their world), and as for the plot, its was, as some would colloquially put it, "just fucking beautiful".

If anyone feels like watching it, here's a torrent: http://www.torrentz.com/search?q=The+wi ... Honneamise