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Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:05 pm
by Sandman
You never know the next kid that giffith mutates could choose to stay in human form but still have his demon powers.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:18 pm
by Necromancer
Babies with the power to choose something? Huh?
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 2:48 pm
by Sortep
babies 2.0 berserk style
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:16 am
by akurei
I figure I may as well add my stupid theory to the lot. This'll be a long one, and very unlikely, but anything might happen if you look far enough down the line, right?
*spoilers, obviously*
First a short one: I think Silatt will survive this ordeal and not only bring pride to the Bakiraka, but replace Ganishka as the Lord of the Kushite Empire. Dunno why...Prince Silatt just seems like he can do it. I also think he's somehow related to Raksasha of the Neo Hawks, who was exiled from the Bakiraka who-knows-when. Raksasha's exile is probably vital to the Bakiraka's current standing among the Kushan clans, and its undoubtably tied to Ganishka as well. That being said, I believe that Raksasha or maybe even Silatt will be the one to slay Ganishka. Otherwise it might be Guts, and if Silatt is involved that may prompt him to travel with Guts for a while seeking truth or Raksasha or the Hawks or what have you..

Now, for my big theory...............*drumroll*........be warned, its crazy as hell:
I get the feeling that Rickert will eventually rejoin the Griffith and serve him as a powerful member of the Neo-Hawks. Perhaps I'm reading too much into what Griffith said to Rickert on the Hill of Swords as well as what Guts said about Rickert not being able to hate Griffith but I believe Rickert wasn't left as the only other surviving member of the Hawks just so he could live a boring life out in the boonies with Erika. There's also his unexpected rescue by the Skull Knight, and then there's Godor's death, Rickert and Erika are the only ones out there now.. Finally there's the day Guts left the Hawk, other than Caska who had her own reasons...wasn't Rickert the only one to cry? Sure you might say he was just childish back then but, a child's dream can be quite a strong bond. Theres no question that Rickert genuinely believed in the Band of the Hawk, and in Griffith.
I don't think Rickert can let go of the Hawk Banner. Take the Hill of Swords for example, Rickert did all of that alone, for his pride as a Hawk. He'll never be able to forget that part of his life. Even though he was the youngest member, and it was hard to take him seriously back then with his baby face, in his heart I think Rickert will always remain a Hawk Soldier. If its true that he can't forget the past, and if its true that he can't hate Griffith...I believe he'll seek out that Hawk Banner again. Perhaps to confront Griffith himself at first, but in the end... I think he'll be the last sacrifice of the Band of the Hawk.
I know that most will think, Rickert won't join Griffith, he betrayed Pippin, Judeau, Corkus, everyone...but perhaps in Rickert's mind Griffith didn't betray their memory, or maybe thats what he'll convince himself of after seeing him again. The purpose of the Hawks were to push Griffith toward his dream. Each and every one of them was willing to place their lives on the line, sacrifice themselves if necessary, give up anything to ride into battle by Griffith's side. They shed their blood for him. He may feel like the Hawks died for that unspoken oath they beared, and he may decide that he, as a true Hawk, still believes in Griffith's dream. Or something like that, yanno the usual twisted logic that makes people do stupid stuff and fight the hero. He may even call Guts a traitor to the Hawks for standing against Griffith.
Another thing...Rickert always struck me as the weakest of the main Hawks crew. Even Corkus had his moments to shine, it wasn't much but it was more than Rickert had. It wouldn't surprise me if Rickert didn't feel as useful to Griffith as the others, like he was just chasing after them and never quite measuring up or something. Pushing himself as hard as he could, but he could never be like Guts or Caska or the others. An integral part of Griffith's dream. He may eventually convince himself to fight Guts in Griffith's name to prove something to himself as a real Hawk Soldier. Especially if he's granted power superior to other apostles by Griffith/Femto and tries to take Guts' place as Griffith's black knight.
Finally, If any of this comes to pass I'll feel sorry for Erika if Rickert has developed feelings for her over the years. It would be pretty depressing if he were to sacrifice her to stand by Griffith's side again and continue pushing on towards his dream, and regret it in the end when the vortex comes to claim his soul. It'd be even sadder when he and Guts clashed. The last Hawks fighting amongst eachother, and how Guts would feel looking down at Rickert after his body returns to its true form. Then a sad burial scene, leaving Rickert's broken sword on a battlefield... What a tragedy that would be.. Especially if Rickert got an awesome death scene like Judeau.
This theory is probably about as screwed up and out there as they get without laughin it off, you can blame my overactive imagination.

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:50 pm
by Sortep
long read no pictures.. too much for mind
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 5:19 pm
by misuru
akurei wrote:This theory is probably.... screwed up
it wasn't screwed up, just long as hell. and this is a berserk forum, everyone is pretty much on the latest chapter and if they're not, they deserve to have it spoiled. so you don't need to put in the spoiler warning.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 8:16 pm
by Necromancer
Sortep wrote:long read no pictures.. too much for mind
Hehe the exact opposite of a manga.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:27 am
by Sortep
manga good... war & peace bad
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 8:06 am
by Skullkracker
war & peace in mangas that is...
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:34 pm
by Khelegond
I think he was talking albout a book called "War & Peace", that has at least 1000 pages, and it's boring as hell

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 2:38 pm
by Sortep
yes it is... thank god american educational standards have dropped and it is no longer required reading for the poor children of future generations
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:33 pm
by Joeki
Caska is a rape magnet lol

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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:30 pm
by Skullkracker
Joeki wrote:Caska is a rape magnet lol

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couldn't hevave said it better myself...let's see:
I counted 4 (two pre- and two post-eclipse) unsuccessful and 1 succesful rapes (not including the Guts incident)...not that it counts...
EDIT: my profile says this is my most active topic...

imagine that!
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:35 am
by Sandman
akurei not sure that the Manga will go that far but if it did I think that would be a good twist to the plot. Here is some thing to add though Ricket does join Griffith and becomes an Apostle, mean while you have Guts getting Caska back and making another baby saying that they were done with Griffith until Guts hears about Erika That is when Godo visits Guts in a dream or aperition or something. Telling him to avenge his daughter and embuse the drangon slayer with is soul to turn it into a firey sword of death.......
Just had to add that in
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:59 am
by MrFelony
I think rickert ismore of a symbol of the days of the old hawks. guts probably wants him to not hate griffith just to preserve what the pre dungeon band of the hawks was...
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 4:22 pm
by Sandman
For him to grow as an adult thinking that Griffith is a good guy would be wrong he needs to know the truth so he can know what a selfish bastard he is. This should be a choice for him to make and I think Guts is going to wait until he is more grown up.
Posted: Wed Aug 03, 2005 8:48 pm
by Necromancer
I don't think Guts wants him at his side. He never wanted comrades again before. Because he knows with hinm they are in danger.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:27 am
by Skullkracker
since he is not haunted anymore during the night, I assume that everyone is safer at his side
(except when he's in the mood for: BERZERKER ARMOUR TIME!!!)
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:48 pm
by Sandman
He might not want him at his side but he definitely does not want him at Griffiths, plus he his guts's gadget man so I hope he stay to invent new shit for gut to kill as many things as possible.

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:20 pm
by Devil_Dante
Stupid theory: Guts makes friends with Griffith. As a nice gift, he let's Griffith wear his armor. After that, Guts says he don't want to be friend with him. Griffith gets mad, and the berserkers armor eats griffith alive lol.
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:46 am
by Skullkracker
...and transforms itself into sth really gay looking...iron maiden
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 9:06 pm
by Necromancer
Hehe, Iron Maiden somehow reminded me of the band (somehow...), Waynes World and Bill & Ted.
Duke: "Put them in the iron maiden."
Bill & Ted: "Iron Maiden? Excellent!"
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 11:17 pm
by MrFelony
Sandman wrote:For him to grow as an adult thinking that Griffith is a good guy would be wrong he needs to know the truth so he can know what a selfish bastard he is. This should be a choice for him to make and I think Guts is going to wait until he is more grown up.
I dont thinkhe really cares what rickert wanted in this situation. I think he wanted to preserve rickerts memory of griffith becuase in some wierd way, he wanted to preserve the love that he had for him prior to the incident...ya i am GUts' psychologist so i know this kinda stuff...
well stupid theory i guess. guts' name was meant to be spelled gatsu, miura just whiffed when they asked him the question and has been to embaressed to clarify it.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 3:13 pm
by Skullkracker
maybe he was just unable to explain the whole lot to Rickert
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:41 pm
by Necromancer
As I see it, Guts told Rickert the whole story.
MrFelony wrote:well stupid theory i guess. guts' name was meant to be spelled gatsu, miura just whiffed when they asked him the question and has been to embaressed to clarify it.
Stupid stupid theory.
