Most disturbing image(s) in Berserk (or other manga)

Post by **Necromancer** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 12:38 am

martyr3810 wrote:That movie is for us growing sociopaths out here. Oh and I suppose its got its special appeal for the necros and sadists/masochists/sadomasochists.

Sounds great!

Post by **Khelegond** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 2:08 am

martyr3810 wrote:Its not good advice until you take it (=

...wich I'm not going to.

Yet, my curiosity will strike in no time. Must...forget...this...thread...

Cheers,

Khelegond

Post by **J2 Cool** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 7:32 am

The eclipse, no doubt. Especially seeing it animated the first time and seeing the series just take a huge twist. It was shocking, breathtaking, frightening, and yes, disturbing. So much death and pain, carelessly delivered to the very people we cared about in the series. Seeing Guts struggle was sad and powerful at the same time. The scene where he's pinned I think is the most disturbing. Felt like we, the viewers, were being raped almost, with everything we wish didn't happen, happening in front of us helplessly. And again, Guts struggling.. But you begin to become numb to some of the gore as Guts does. Living a life filled with demons will do that and by now especially you almost want to just see the limbs come off the apostles and yearn for them to be chopped in half. I'm sure Guts has the same type of hunger.

Post by **Necromancer** » Fri Jun 24, 2005 9:04 pm

Found an Ichi the Killer torrent tracker. *starts the download* weeeee.

Post by **Loeviz** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 11:36 am

Ichi The killer is truly a really disturbed movie, and I have seen the uncut version...

Otherwise I have to say that some thing´s in Berserk are a bit over the top, but that´s one off the thing´s I like about it

Post by **martyr3810** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:37 am

New scene to add..

Sin City (American comic but I'm counting it as manga )

Cutting off a guys legs, bandaging them up and then dragging him through a field and then taking off the tourniquets and letting his dog get the scent of blood and then eat him alive.

Post by **J2 Cool** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 8:43 am

martyr3810 wrote:New scene to add..

Sin City (American comic but I'm counting it as manga )

Cutting off a guys legs, bandaging them up and then dragging him through a field and then taking off the tourniquets and letting his dog get the scent of blood and then eat him alive.

Yes, that qualifies. Brutal scene in the movie.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 12:13 pm

martyr3810 wrote:New scene to add..

Sin City (American comic but I'm counting it as manga )

Cutting off a guys legs, bandaging them up and then dragging him through a field and then taking off the tourniquets and letting his dog get the scent of blood and then eat him alive.

How dare you count american comics as manga

Oh Sin City sounds even better now and the movie will be out july 1 here

Post by **halfnhalf** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 4:27 pm

Techinally Sin City is a graphic novel, not a comic. But yeah its got some pretty graphic scenes, watch the movie and you hear the greatest quote from Bruce Willis.

(the movie and grpahic novel are practically the same, frame by frame is the exact same)

Post by **Brainpiercing** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:02 pm

what's the difference between a graphic novel and a comic? I thought it was just a more pompous name for the same thing.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:19 pm

It is i mean Viz and DH call the mangas i buy from them Graphic novel instead of calling them manga.

Post by **LordMune** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:23 pm

A graphic novel is usually a crappily (or "experimentally") drawn comic book with too much text. The term is also used for regular comics, as to make nerds feel intellectual. Since I stick to manga, I don't have to make up silly names to make myself feel un-stupid.

Post by **Brainpiercing** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:33 pm

hmm, some people refuse to use the name manga even for japanese comics because they think it's too pompous (well, they say it's comics, too).

anyway this is technically OT.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 10:43 pm

Nevertheless graphic novel sounds good so i dont mind people calling a manga that.

Post by **Femto** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:23 pm

To put some more off-topicness into this, I prefer to call them comic books myself. LordMune has it right, some people like to call them graphic novels because it sounds fancier or more mature but fuck that, they'll always be comic books to me and I don't care if people think I'm reading "kid's stuff" because of that name. I don't have a problem with calling a manga a comic book either, because it's really the same thing technically. Calling it "manga" is just an extra bit of information that tells you it's a comic book coming from Japan.

I'm pretty sure this has been talked about before.

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:26 pm

I call everything comic books. Because that's what they are. You have comic books, comic stips, and story boards. In Japan I'm sure they call all our comic books manga... because manga is japanese for comics.

I just call everything comics because I speak English and Spanish, not Japanese or Engrish.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:30 pm

But calling a manga manga is good cause then people know what you are talking about. If you call for example Berserk a comic book, people who havent read it will think its a comic book from the us or some other place not a comic from japan.

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:34 pm

I see what you mean. But int that case, what should we call comics from Europe, Canada, and Korea?

Post by **Femto** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:50 pm

I call them comic books from Japan sometimes.

Besides, it doesn't matter what country they are from as long as they are good, right?

Post by **LordMune** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 11:55 pm

DarkenRahlX wrote:I see what you mean. But int that case, what should we call comics from Europe, Canada, and Korea?

They don't have specific names- japanese comics had one from the onset, and it is useful for, you know, informing people that it is indeed a comic book, but in black and white, the wrong way around, and probably quite different from traditional "comics".

Post by **Libaax** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:04 am

DarkenRahlX wrote:I see what you mean. But int that case, what should we call comics from Europe, Canada, and Korea?

Comic books from Korea is called Manhwa,comic books from China is called Manhua.

In the us,canada or europe they are just called comic books cause they look similar and follow the same rules so they dont need diffrent names.

Post by **Brainpiercing** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:40 am

Hmm, are Manwha and Manhua original names or just adopted versions of the word manga? Or is possibly the other way around that the man hua sound was adopted by the japanese as manga?

Post by **Libaax** » Thu Jun 30, 2005 12:58 pm

I think they are adopted versions of Manga cause there werent any manhwa or manhua before manga.

Post by **martyr3810** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 6:17 am

Yeah, Manwha/Manhua are just ways of saying KOREAN/CHINESE manga... it was just a way of differentiating from Japanese manga...

Manga is the father of Manwha/Manhua.

Post by **DarkenRahlX** » Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:42 am

And American Comics is the grandfather.