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Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:34 am
by Quest
i have been rereading the series again.
does anyone feel that guts has completely shed his "If your always worried about crushing the ants beneath you; you won't be able to walk." attitude?

when he first met puck, he was this arrogant and rebellious person. his philosophy was that the weak should die and the strong dominate. he didnt care for other people at all. the weak deserved to be plagued by evil because they cannot help themselves.

compared to the guts now, he has changed a lot. its hard to pinpoint but i think his friendship with the original band of hawks changed his character a lot.

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 11:14 am
by Starnum
Yeah, that was a very dark period in his life, and he's grown as a person since then I believe. ;)

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2006 10:24 pm
by Istvan
compared to the guts now, he has changed a lot. its hard to pinpoint but i think his friendship with the original band of hawks changed his character a lot.
I'd agree he's changed a lot, but if you're talking about the changes since he met Puck, it isn't the Band of the Hawk that changed him, it's his new companions and (especially) working to protect Caska. After all, when he met Puck the Band was already dead (their death at Griffith's order is a large part of why he was that way in the first place).

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 5:37 pm
by Quest
Istvan wrote:
compared to the guts now, he has changed a lot. its hard to pinpoint but i think his friendship with the original band of hawks changed his character a lot.
I'd agree he's changed a lot, but if you're talking about the changes since he met Puck, it isn't the Band of the Hawk that changed him, it's his new companions and (especially) working to protect Caska. After all, when he met Puck the Band was already dead (their death at Griffith's order is a large part of why he was that way in the first place).
hmm you are right!
i got my chronology wrong... guts was arrogant and selfish after the band of hawks were all killed.
but before that he was quite the good and responsible guy.
i guess their death made him cynical. and his journey with his new party changed him to a good guy again.

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:07 pm
by Sandman
yup 8)

Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 10:12 pm
by Istvan
Probably quite a bit of it was his way of walling off his pain.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 1:27 am
by psi29a
There was no preview pic on the YA site, however I snipped this for you all. Enjoy, as this means we have the raw.

Image

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:17 am
by MournfulWoods
Hoo seems like trouble ! Gatts going to be sucked in that water summon or he's going to fall in the sea. In any case, can't wait to see how he's going to deal with that.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:12 pm
by Quest
i love it how with each chapter the armour is constantly reshaping itself!
=)

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:03 pm
by Wandering_Mystic
That pic up there is neat because it is in that frame that Guts lets rip some of his classic one-liners. Good stuff.

Oh and with any luck, the chapter might be ready for release really soon.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 4:59 pm
by Libaax
Quest wrote:
Istvan wrote:
compared to the guts now, he has changed a lot. its hard to pinpoint but i think his friendship with the original band of hawks changed his character a lot.
I'd agree he's changed a lot, but if you're talking about the changes since he met Puck, it isn't the Band of the Hawk that changed him, it's his new companions and (especially) working to protect Caska. After all, when he met Puck the Band was already dead (their death at Griffith's order is a large part of why he was that way in the first place).
hmm you are right!
i got my chronology wrong... guts was arrogant and selfish after the band of hawks were all killed.
but before that he was quite the good and responsible guy.
i guess their death made him cynical. and his journey with his new party changed him to a good guy again.

I give the most credit of changing Guts to Puck,cause it was he who had to work hard to change his dark heart. When he met the rest of current crew he was already soft compared to his old dark,cynical self cause he had been with Puck a time before them.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:06 pm
by Gundam_Bobcat
Keep up the good work.

Its going to be interesting to see how Guts fights the water snake thing. From the little preview it looks like the fight isn't going to go so easy for Guts.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:23 pm
by Istvan
Especially since I can't see how even someone as strong as Guts is with the armor activated could swim while wearing full armor and carrying the Dragonslayer. That'll be a real problem for him if (as it looks like) he falls in the water.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:43 pm
by Baz
Don't worry by the next page he is out of the water, it's not that big of a deal really.

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:46 pm
by Devil_Dante
Baz wrote:Don't worry by the next page he is out of the water, it's not that big of a deal really.
SPOILER! lol

+1

Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 10:59 pm
by TheDrizzit
wait a tick....didn't he swim in full armor with raider sword and Caska before? he said he wouldn't want to do it again but hell in this armor he's better. it shouldn't phase him...but then again he is getting a little soft and he also has a hole in his chest.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:01 am
by malice
I think that armor may have been lighter than his current one. It certainly could have been discarded if he needed, whereas I doubt he wants to lose any pieces of this one.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 12:55 am
by Baz
lol please Guts couldn't possible swim with the DS or his amour but there is a loophole to solve that problem. Really guys there is a lot more interesting stuff going on in this one I wouldn't get hung up on Guts swimming(as he doesn't).

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 3:04 am
by Gundam_Bobcat
Baz wrote:lol please Guts couldn't possible swim with the DS or his amour but there is a loophole to solve that problem. Really guys there is a lot more interesting stuff going on in this one I wouldn't get hung up on Guts swimming(as he doesn't).


Come on, the sword alone has to weight 300 lbs. I can swim with things that heavy any day of the week.

On a more serious note, I'm going to say it has something to do with magic either the witches or Serpico's winds.

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 11:05 am
by Baz
No you forget the amazing power of jumping! dun don darrr

Posted: Mon May 01, 2006 6:24 pm
by Starnum
Shit, I wouldn't clock that sword over 200 lbs. but you still shouldn't take physics so lightly. If the armor was a normal suit, it'd be a lot harder for him to recover, but as things are now, falling in the water isn't a terrible situation. I'd bet money against anyone here strapping on the sword and some full armor and climbing out of the ocean though, heh.