Berserk Chapter: 270

Post by **Libaax** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:36 am

Casca when she was herself and not a veg was an interesting and strong character. Liked her alot which is why i would hunt down Miura if he killed her now

Post by **Quest** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:51 am

yeah.
caska, being literally a blank slate, has the most potential in character development.
it just doesnt make sense to just throw that away.

Post by **Libaax** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:55 am

Also with her story surviving the eclipse,it would a tad anti-climax if she got killed by some monster now.

Come to think of it,cant wait to when she gets back to normal. Wonder how the proud Casca will react to have been a veg for such a long time.

Post by **Deathbringer** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:11 pm

Wonder how´ll she react to Farnese?

Post by **Wandering_Mystic** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:45 pm

Cat fight!

Post by **Sandman** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:52 pm

I wonder if she will remeber any of her experiences while she was in that state and if she will keep her lesbian tendences? Does anyone remeber if Mirua told us about how Caska felt about Witches? That would be funny if she came to and she hated Witches.

Post by **Libaax** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:45 pm

Deathbringer wrote:Wonder how´ll she react to Farnese?

She wont react she will see it very fast that Guts doesnt even look at Farnese that way,no matter how much Farnese wants it to be.

Post by **Istvan** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 11:36 pm

A better question then would be, how will Farnese react to Caska, if Caska recovers her mind? Also, what will her new role in the party be?

Post by **jistanidiot** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 3:33 am

Istvan wrote:A better question then would be, how will Farnese react to Caska, if Caska recovers her mind? Also, what will her new role in the party be?

She'll either leave the party or accept her new role. I hope she doesn't go psycho and try to har Caska or Guts.

Actually I think Caska will recover her mind and the party will break up with some new characters joining and several old ones leaving. However everyone will be working on taking down the GH, and I think the'll see each other again before the end. I just hope this story has a happy ending.

Post by **Quest** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:18 am

is guts raging against the entire godhand?
or just griffith?

Post by **Ayanami** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 5:43 am

I assumed it was just Griffith.

Post by **Quest** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 6:41 am

Ayanami wrote:I assumed it was just Griffith.

i thought as much.
when they finally meet for a climatic battle, it will be worth the long long long wait. someone's dream gotta give.
=)

Post by **psi29a** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:33 pm

I was re-reading the golden age over the course of a week.

Besides the literal shit ton of forshadowing, I've pretty much come the conclusion that Gaiseric is Skullknight, the five angels (as seen in the picture, disregarding that someone said 'was it 4?') are the five god-hand.

I say this to spark more debate, however I see that Gaiseric was like Griffith reborn, however Gaiseric made a choice to contradict 'fate' or Idea which put him at odds with the God Hand and thus they took away what he had created.

This time around, Griffith (Femto) has been reborn is created a great army to once again build his Kingdom like that of Gaiseric. Guts even makes a comment that nothing has really changed while in the tower of rebirth.

Perhaps a few details have changed this time around, but Guts is the broken cog in the machine of fate. The free radical in Idea's design. "The Struggler" as Guts is called by SK, can help SK defeat God Hand. To SK, the God Hand (or angels as they are called through out the series... sometimes) destroyed his Kingdom.

Now, of course i haven't thought of every single detail, but I think this is an alternative from the four angels being the elements since in Miura artwork it shows five total. It could be that one of the god-hand was killed, or Skullknight was a member of the god-hand but left, and thus why they need Griffith as Femto.

I have a feeling we will never know till Miura finally inks some more story for us.

Other thoughts I entertain is that Zodd says "so you wish to set him down on your path" to SK about Guts when he aquires SK's old armour. This gets me thinking more than anything.

Post by **Gundam_Bobcat** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 4:22 pm

Other thoughts I entertain is that Zodd says "so you wish to set him down on your path" to SK about Guts when he aquires SK's old armour. This gets me thinking more than anything. Very Happy

Yea that gets me thinking to, what did SK do while wearing that armor? Along with this party situation, i think the state of it will become more clear if or when they reach the elf homeland.

Post by **Sandman** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:44 pm

So as it is now Guts only has three major things to do, One get to Elfheim to save Caska, Two take down Griffith, Three take care of Kushan or else they will never be at peace.

And maybe a chance that guts will also go after the God Hand them selves, after all is said and done.

The next pivit point would have to be Elfheim, I hope we learn a lot more about all the mysteries of berserk when they reach the island.

Post by **Istvan** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 11:34 pm

If Guts does end up taking down the God's Hand (with or without help) I would think it would only be on his way to fighting Griffith. His goal all along has been to defeat Griffith, the reason he went around killing apostles was because he had no way to get to Griffith, so he killed them instead. Certainly if he gets a chance he'll kill the God's Hand, but they aren't his focus. I expect that if he ever kills Griffith, the series will be just about over (maybe a chapter or two to wrap up, but that's it).

As for Elf Home, I think there are good odds we'll get some answers there. After all, an entire island of sorcerers and witches ought to know more then just about anyone else they could meet about the various questions we have.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:21 pm

I for one dont think a guy like Guts who hates these monters and apostles will leave the God Hands alone after he kills Griffith. If he kills only Griffith then someone else will take his place,he must take down the system.

I dont think he will have to go after them since they will surely try to help Griffith cause they will think if he can kill one God Hand whats to stop him from killing more of them.

Post by **Eldo** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:36 pm

Personally, I think if Guts does somehow kill Griffith, the other God Hand won't leave him alone or let him go that easily, and the apostles will keep coming. But I have to say, if Guts does have the ability to kill Griffith, I think he has a fair chance to beat the other God Hand as well. Finally, Skull Knight has to settle his vendetta with Void, which I truly don't think will be left out in the series.

Post by **Quest** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:48 pm

i dont think guts even cares for the godhand.
unless they are in his way to griffith like some shounen manga where the main character has to beat all the mini bosses along the way in order to face the mega boss.

he will just kill griffith and wander the rest of his life searching for 'strong' opponents to beat.
or he will settle down with caska.

=)

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:53 pm

Eldo wrote:Personally, I think if Guts does somehow kill Griffith, the other God Hand won't leave him alone or let him go that easily, and the apostles will keep coming. But I have to say, if Guts does have the ability to kill Griffith, I think he has a fair chance to beat the other God Hand as well. Finally, Skull Knight has to settle his vendetta with Void, which I truly don't think will be left out in the series.

Yeah the apostles were there even before Femto was born.

It would be awesome to focus alittle on SK'story and then end it with his revenge.

Quest:

There are no peace for him if they are left to send out apostles.

Just think about what if he leaves them alone and he comes to a city with Casca. A city who is ruled by apostles who eats his people, the old cold hearted Guts wouldnt care about the people. But Guts as he is now wont leave that apostle alone. Thats why he wont let the others God Hands be cause he has seen what thier apostles can do to people.

Post by **Eldo** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:54 pm

Quest wrote:i dont think guts even cares for the godhand.
unless they are in his way to griffith like some shounen manga where the main character has to beat all the mini bosses along the way in order to face the mega boss.

he will just kill griffith and wander the rest of his life searching for 'strong' opponents to beat.
or he will settle down with caska.

=)

He quite possibly doesn't...but he'll probably want payback from Slan.

Like I mentioned before, if he was going to be completely free of the God Hand's influence, they must be taken down. Remember, he's branded, so even if he still takes down Griffith, he'll still spend the rest of his life running from the remainder of the God Hand, the apostles, and the spirits that will continually haunt him. Settling down seems impossible with the brand on his neck.

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:58 pm

Ah i forget about the brand.

That makes it even more impossible to leave them alone if he will hunted by them as he was before the seal.

Post by **Quest** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:08 pm

yeah eldo, you make a good point about the brand.
maybe like some cheesy cartoon, if you kill the source of the brand(ie. griffith), you will remove the curse as well.
=P

now that libaax and you mentioned it, it seems more and more likely that there will be some reason for guts to off the entire godhand for some closure to the whole story.

then again, will it ever end with closure or left open ended?
=)

Post by **Libaax** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:13 pm

Guts might not get a happy ending but not even Muira can stop him from destroying the God Hands.

Post by **Eldo** » Wed Mar 22, 2006 1:15 pm

Well, in my opinion, I don't think it's so corny or cheesy. We've been told time and time again by people like Skull Knight that Guts is special, because he opposes fate as such, which I believe that Skull Knight will manipulate to his advantage to toppling the God Hand. Skull Knight has been trying to fight against the God Hand for centuries, and he's failed many times.

We can't debate about the ending of the story yet, because we don't know if it even has passed half way yet. If Miura does plan to write 50+ volumes of Berserk, we've still got a long way to go.