Swordplay and other fun sword stuffs.

Post by **Sortep** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:30 am

which is really why a tactical fighting discussion shouldn't be left in the hands of the laymen... (namely us) maybe kheleghond has some rights to the discussion... but really anything we say outside the realm of testable academic physics is really just amateur conjecture

Post by **Starnum** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:47 am

Dragon Slayer, FTW!

Post by **Khelegond** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 2:29 pm

Sortep wrote:which is really why a tactical fighting discussion shouldn't be left in the hands of the laymen... (namely us) maybe kheleghond has some rights to the discussion... but really anything we say outside the realm of testable academic physics is really just amateur conjecture

Nah...I could never really argue beside the facts I know in general. I never done Kendo/Kenjutsu, so a man can't really argue without both points of view.

Fencing - the sport - is absurdely fast paced. The sabre is extremely fast, but I never thought it could be strong at the same time - but in the last competition two scenes proved me wrong. First, in a slashing attack against the enemy's mask, the attack was so hard that the mask was dislocated in his head. And the second attack ripped the body wire (a wire that gets from the sword, through your clothes and out on your back to count the points) with a slashing attack.

Foil and epee, on the other had...are a bit lighter. The people fighting with it don't rely on strenght, they just do the necessary force to slightly touch the enemy. It's cool, but it's too much 'sport'. I like the 'real swordplay' aspect of the thing

Oh, and definitely yes, Dragon Slay 4tehwin!!!!!11

Post by **Starnum** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 10:54 pm

Khelegond wrote:
Sortep wrote:which is really why a tactical fighting discussion shouldn't be left in the hands of the laymen... (namely us) maybe kheleghond has some rights to the discussion... but really anything we say outside the realm of testable academic physics is really just amateur conjecture
Nah...I could never really argue beside the facts I know in general. I never done Kendo/Kenjutsu, so a man can't really argue without both points of view.

Yes, I must concede as well, because it's the same with me. I don't know much about fencing, as I've only trained with a katana. Started with a bokutou of course and worked my way up.

However, continued swordplay discussion sounds great, because I love the art. Any form of swordsmanship is the shizzle IMO, really.

Post by **ryusenka** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:29 am

Just give me a gatt and I'll blow all your arses before you even get to me.

Post by **MrFelony** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 6:35 am

just give me a gatt and teach me guncotta and i'll blow or slice everyone away

Post by **Starnum** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 8:35 am

ryusenka wrote:Just give me a gatt and I'll blow all your arses before you even get to me.

No thanks, I don't swing that way.

Post by **Khelegond** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 2:11 pm

Yesterday there was a demonstration in my club (where I do fencing). There was some showing (spinning, aerodance - or something like that, aerobics, Yoga and all...boring all the way). But the last ones were Karate (great), Kendo (cool!), Kenjutsu and Fencing.

Man...I wish I had the time to do both. Kenjutsu is amazing - the flowing movement of your arms, the sword positions...it's really, really cool...

Post by **Brainpiercing** » Fri Aug 18, 2006 11:43 pm

Even just our show fighting is so much fun. Sure it's hopelessly... well... showy, because one thing you would never do with real swords is bash them together like there's no tomorrow, but it's still a damn load of fun. I just wish my guys were a bit more reliable, I haven't held a sword in weeks.

Post by **Starnum** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 2:19 am

Khelegond wrote:Kenjutsu is amazing - the flowing movement of your arms, the sword positions...it's really, really cool...

Yeah, I love it.

Brainpiercing wrote:I just wish my guys were a bit more reliable, I haven't held a sword in weeks.

Yeah, I know how you feel. I've fallen out of practice myself. I mean, it’s like riding a bike, but I haven’t been training properly like I used to, here lately *sigh*. I’m only at an intermediate level myself. At this pace I’ll never reach the advanced level. Besides, the katas I’d have to learn to move on are, um, freaking hard. Hm, maybe someday. For now I’m content with the level of skill I do have, enough to protect myself at least, and a bit more. Other than that I’m content spending time with my daughter. I haven’t completely stopped, but I don’t really have the time or money to go to the dojo anymore. Maybe I can pick it back up later. For now I do some training at home, but it’s easy to get distracted by this darn computer, anime, manga, and video games, heh. As for master and grand master level, forget about it, heh.

Post by **TheDrizzit** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:29 pm

Hehehe I remember the days (last month) of going head to head with katanas. Sure, they chip up then pretty much fall apart in your hands before you have a chance to cleave the blade but nothing will ever beat just training by sparring. "One cannot become a master if hes never been on the battlefield." BudK has some nice foam katanas for practice, I'm really tempted to pick up a pair then find a training partner and just wail away at each other. Too hot here in Texas to do anything though. I think I would die. ^_^

Post by **Arngrim** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:24 am

Starnum wrote:
Buzkashi wrote:Why dont you guys all save yourselves the trouble and learn how to shoot a gun.
Thanks, I already know how.

Btw, I was originally going to say Kenjutsu, but I didn't want anyone to misunderstand what I meant. Katanas do it better.

I'm going to be taking Eishen Ryu and Kendo again come October/November. Eishen Ryu is more swordsmanship and less "fencing".

Post by **Gaiseric** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:43 am

Jet Li owns fencing.

Post by **TheDrizzit** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:09 am

I think the next time Scarborough Faire comes around here I am going to go ask them to make me a Guts sword from the Hawks Raiders days. I wanna see A: if they can and B: How much it will be...that would be freakin' sweet and I would train with it all the damn time. But I bet I wouldn't be able to lift it so it will give a goal to shoot for.

Post by **Arngrim** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:15 am

TheDrizzit wrote:I think the next time Scarborough Faire comes around here I am going to go ask them to make me a Guts sword from the Hawks Raiders days. I wanna see A: if they can and B: How much it will be...that would be freakin' sweet and I would train with it all the damn time. But I bet I wouldn't be able to lift it so it will give a goal to shoot for.

Depends what they make it out of. I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but if you're hoping to "practice" with it, you best hope you make ahnald look like a pup. I'm not very familiar with broadswords, but even katanas reach a certain point where too much weight is absurd (I'm talking 20+ pounds). What you're looking at may very well reach 200 pound status if we're talking iron or steel brotha. Just so you know, and yes, that will be -hella- expensive.

Post by **Starnum** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 1:06 am

Yeah, normal people can use even the sword Gatts used during the Golden Age. My katana only weighs two pounds, if even that, and they don't get much heavier than that. Even nodachi aren't that heavy, they can just be unwieldy, due to their length. I saw an awesome replica of the Dragon Slayer for sale on this Italian site once. It was made out of latex I believe, and was selling for nearly two hundred dollars. I wanted to get one, but haven't had the cash to basically throw away yet, lol. I still might get it some day, we'll see, heh.

Post by **Sortep** » Mon Sep 11, 2006 2:29 am

actually a cost effective way to get your hands on a golden era guts sword would be to take your ass down to a junk yard... find one of the old big heavy unwieldly cars and snag the axel out... thats really good metal... then just work it yourself... it's not too hard