Most disturbing image(s) in Berserk (or other manga)

Post by **akari** » Sat May 21, 2005 7:16 pm

IMHO the most terrific thing is to make a shocking scene without all that "disturbing"

stuff, which can only make someone throw up rather than make some good emotional effect. For example the last scene in "Mad Max" is just... (if you saw it you know what I'm talking about

)

I liked that image in volume 1 where Gutts shows up from under the corpses (with the one hanging around his Dragon Slayer )

Post by **Arresty** » Sat May 21, 2005 7:52 pm

I loved Mad Max, and also the Roadwarrior. Man I miss the good old Mel Gibson.

Post by **Femto** » Sat May 21, 2005 10:14 pm

The difference between the characters in a manga/comic book and the characters in a movie, is that the characters in a movie are really just actors and it's hard to really get into it when you know it's just somebody playing a role. Manga/comic book characters are not real, but they are authentic, they aren't playing a role, they ARE these characters as far as the reader is concerned. Animated violence gets me more for this reason.

Post by **MrFelony** » Sat May 21, 2005 10:20 pm

new mel gibson is still packin the gorey though

Post by **The_Paya** » Sat May 21, 2005 10:31 pm

Personally I usually find gory scenes excessive, just too much for what the author/player is trying to express. Most times my thoughts are like "well that was not really needed". But for Berserk, I find that the extreme detail of those "gory" scenes (not in particular, since the whole drawing art of Miura is über) to be somehow necessary. By drawing in such detail, i think Miura allows the reader to submerge in the very "intestines" of what is going on, the eccentricity of the detail allows Miura to "touch" the brains of the readers, allowing us to enjoy Berserk juice to the very last drop of blood.

Post by **Femto** » Sat May 21, 2005 10:41 pm

MrFelony wrote:new mel gibson is still packin the gorey though

The Passion did not make me flinch even once if that's what you mean.

Post by **Arresty** » Sat May 21, 2005 11:53 pm

To me it really depends on how its executed. Sometimes real violence looks just way to fake, but the most disturbing scene in anything is the scene from American History X, it makes me cringe every time I see it. Normally though animated seems more real to me though. Either way unless its really harsh I am normally unphased.

Post by **Ramirez** » Sun May 22, 2005 12:56 am

The most disturbing image I've found It's not the "bite the curb" scene from American History X nor the famous "Adult Attack, Adult Attack!" in Berserk.

For me, the most disturbing image it's from...

Chrono Trigger !!!

I really was shocked the first time I ended the game and it came up with that.

Post by **halfnhalf** » Sun May 22, 2005 4:21 am

Ramirez wrote:The most disturbing image I've found It's not the "bite the curb" scene from American History X nor the famous "Adult Attack, Adult Attack!" in Berserk.

For me, the most disturbing image it's from...

Chrono Trigger !!!

I really was shocked the first time I ended the game and it came up with that.

this guys wins the award for being the most hilarious guy on the EG forums...

Post by **Buzkashi** » Sun May 22, 2005 6:40 am

I still laugh at his sig.

Post by **BiQ** » Sun May 22, 2005 7:39 pm

Nah. Read some of Uziga's stuff and Berserk seems tame. Ichi the Killer, too, probably.

Here, have a look:
http://uziga.sakura.ne.jp/

...take that warning seriously. Really. And don't come back shouting you weren't warned.

Post by **Necromancer** » Sun May 22, 2005 9:19 pm

It always depends on the softening or deadening of people.
All this gory stuff does nothing to me.

Website · Post by **Damien** » Sun May 22, 2005 9:22 pm

Well the disturbing images in BERSERK is part of what makes it so GREAT.

Post by **LordMune** » Sun May 22, 2005 9:32 pm

Ramirez wrote:The most disturbing image I've found It's not the "bite the curb" scene from American History X nor the famous "Adult Attack, Adult Attack!" in Berserk.

For me, the most disturbing image it's from...

Chrono Trigger !!!

I really was shocked the first time I ended the game and it came up with that.

I find the space followed by the triple exclamation marks to be very disturbing indeed.

Post by **halfnhalf** » Mon May 23, 2005 4:25 am

BiQ wrote:Nah. Read some of Uziga's stuff and Berserk seems tame. Ichi the Killer, too, probably.

Here, have a look:
http://uziga.sakura.ne.jp/

...take that warning seriously. Really. And don't come back shouting you weren't warned.

ok now that stuff is really more on the WHY??? i mean i can handle it since it doesnt give off any realism feel... but i mean what is it in your mind to draw something random like that...

Post by **hadi** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:03 am

Buzkashi wrote:Umm i cant see the pics. nvm. So where can i find it?

I found them on ckmoney bots, 9 volumes and some chapters from vol 10

http://ckmoney.com/Bots/ckmoney_bot_P-S.txt

Post by **Buzkashi** » Mon May 23, 2005 6:29 am

Somethings up with ckmoney. Im on there channel and i ask for the manga and nothing happens. Nothing at all. Doesnt even add me to qeuee or anything.

Post by **Wandering_Mystic** » Mon May 23, 2005 2:44 pm

For me, Berserk's greatness doesn't come from the gore or violence, or even just the story. Rather it is how significant and inter-related all those things are to each other, and how in turn they are connected to other deep and significant themes.

When I see the torture by demons, I see stark detachment of humanity from things that were once human. When looking at the tortures brought upon by Mozgus and the church, I see a mirror of hypocrisies and lunacy within our own societies. The orgy scenes echo a perversion of ancient pagan rites, in other words, a languishing plea from people who have long ago lost touch with a healthy way of life and who yearn unknowingly for a return to those times, to ease the suffering of their own souls.

The pain and suffering in berserk is very stark and really scrutinizes the way different people deal with their own emotional and spiritual wounds, and in some cases how these scars on humans, collectively as well as individually, were formed in the first place. In this way, all violence and gore and other disturbing imagery is not only acceptable, but really very necessary to the message of the story as I see it. When I see something disgusting, I can't help but feel even more drawn in to the story for precisely the reasons I stated above. By the same token, when I see Gatts shred and annihilate his enemies, it is not the messiness and violence that excites me, but rather his incredible will to push through and overcome his life's trials his own way. Violence for the sake of violence is stupid and juvenile. But violence as a metaphor for life is a powerful symbol, especially when shaped by a master such as Miura.

Post by **hsmith** » Mon May 23, 2005 5:42 pm

Well, after checking out a few of those uziga.sakura.ne.jp pictures, I'm awfully glad Berserk isn't in color.

Man, I've seen photos of real traumas and been around a couple of traumas and fatalities, but that site really brought cannibalistic fetishism to life.

Mon May 23, 2005 6:14 pm

Ive visited some xtermination places a couple of times. That is the most wicked shit ive ever seen to be honest. Can't believe how people actually do stuf like that

Post by **Tempest** » Tue May 24, 2005 2:46 am

I'm too lazy to read all the posts here, but I think most of the disgusting images from Berserk can be summed up from the second half of my Wenches Gone Wild Omake:

Post by **Eldo** » Tue May 24, 2005 4:20 am

Speaking of omake, it needs to be necroed...

Post by **Sandman** » Tue May 24, 2005 10:07 pm

Tempest... I thought that Guts kissing troll intestines as Slan was very disturbing

Post by **Necromancer** » Tue May 24, 2005 11:28 pm

I don't think Slan kissed Guts at that time.

Post by **call_me_kip** » Tue May 24, 2005 11:43 pm

Necromancer wrote:I don't think Slan kissed Guts at that time.

No, she does. Right after he sticks his sword through her belly.