Chapter 255

Post by **Arresty** » Wed May 04, 2005 4:17 am

I have read some of it just not all of it. I think i am like 10 or 15 volumes in. But too busy to read right now, gonig to start back up over the summer. It so far seems to keep gettting better and better, looking forward to what it will be like further down the road. It is one of my favorites.

Edit: Since my reformat I have 4 mangas on my computer, Bleach, Berserk, Gantz and Hajime no Ippo.

Post by **dos.azn** » Wed May 04, 2005 2:27 pm

Arresty wrote:I was actually thinking that when I typed my last post. Since I was refering to the only case I see fitting for him living I kept it wiht him living, but it woudl be cool to know Griffith was dead, and maybe have Guts all alone severly wounded, but still alive, not knowing whether he will stuggle to live again or finally accept fate and die.

Another reason I think he should die is that it kinda parallels Cowboy Bebop as in the main character is already dead in a sense, and only has one thing left to accomplish. I believe since Guts is fated to die it is appropriate for him to die, after killing the one who killed him.

yeah i was so sad at spikes death. but i was thinking more of an ending like gungrave. you never really see what happens to the main characters but you just see flashbacks and then the screen goes blank and someone says "welcome home". yeah it sounds cheesy but it was truly beautiful if you saw it

or something like crouching tiger, where she jumps off into the distance because of that legend about a guy who did the same thing so that his wish for the recovery of his parents will come true. i know it was supposed to be something poetic, but because zhang ziyi was hot, im wondering if her character lived or not, cuz i dont like to see chicks die

Post by **Arresty** » Wed May 04, 2005 3:33 pm

dos.azn wrote:i know it was supposed to be something poetic, but because zhang ziyi was hot, im wondering if her character lived or not, cuz i dont like to see chicks die

HAHA, I agree though. She was smoking too. Haven't seen Gungrave, but if I do it will probably be a while so no worries, though now I want to see it. Oh well. Cowboy Bebop was such a sad ending though, I loved spike, one of the best characters in any series.

Post by **Necromancer** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:34 pm

Arresty wrote:I need to make a time machine. Need to get the ending of this manga, as well as the ending of hellsing and many others.

If you bring them back to the past/present, they wouldn't have to make them anymore and so they'll never appear. I like paradoxical thoughts.

Post by **Sandman** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:44 pm

You never know, that might piss off the authors that they make the ends different just to spite the manga that Arresty brings back from the future.

Post by **The_Paya** » Wed May 04, 2005 10:30 pm

But if they change the endings, then the paper that Arresty brings should change to match the new ending.

Post by **Sandman** » Wed May 04, 2005 10:32 pm

True......

Post by **Arresty** » Thu May 05, 2005 12:15 am

Its not like I would share it, also there is that whole theory of causality that makes it impossible to begin with, but if it wasn't impossible then it would just mean we can't change the future.

Post by **Sandman** » Thu May 05, 2005 12:20 am

You selfish bastard, you would not share the end of Berserk!!!!! Die!!!
:OWTH:

Post by **Arresty** » Thu May 05, 2005 12:22 am

Well if I did Miura would find out and that would be bad. Gotta keep it on the DL, and if i told one person and they only told one it woudl eventually get way out of hand.

Post by **Artezul** » Thu May 05, 2005 12:30 am

Yeah, something that hot should generally be kept to yourself.

Not unless you follow the reasoning, "Two can keep a secret if one is dead." In which case dont' tell me....

Post by **Arresty** » Thu May 05, 2005 12:33 am

Artezul wrote: "Two can keep a secret if one is dead."

Touche, so who wants to know.

Post by **Necromancer** » Thu May 05, 2005 12:18 pm

I don't like when people are telling things that'll happen, I want to find out myself.

Post by **Sandman** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:43 pm

Is there a preview of Chapter 256 yet?

Post by **Arresty** » Thu May 05, 2005 6:50 pm

I doubt it since 256 does not come out til the end of this month.

Post by **InsaneNoodlyGuy** » Mon May 09, 2005 12:41 am

Arresty wrote:I was actually thinking that when I typed my last post. Since I was refering to the only case I see fitting for him living I kept it wiht him living, but it woudl be cool to know Griffith was dead, and maybe have Guts all alone severly wounded, but still alive, not knowing whether he will stuggle to live again or finally accept fate and die.

Another reason I think he should die is that it kinda parallels Cowboy Bebop as in the main character is already dead in a sense, and only has one thing left to accomplish. I believe since Guts is fated to die it is appropriate for him to die, after killing the one who killed him.

I dunno if you can really realate that to Guts though. Spike, yes, was a man already dead after his girl hit the ground, simply waiting for his body to follow. His actions were dictated such, though Vicious observance that in his last moments he was living again contained some interest: he was alive because even in his self destructive act he at least had purpose.

Gats is a little different. Even at his lowest, after Gambino's death, betrayed by that which he cared about and now outcast from all he had known, bleeded and wounded, Gats still wanted to live. It burned in him in fact. Though I've little doubt that Gats would throw his life away for Casca, without that, he still has a reason. And when he has a reason, his drive is great. I've no doubt that killing griffith is a very big thing for him, but he's not really on a course of self destruction near as I can tell. Griffith is not the singular focus of his existence, the fact that he now has people close to him is proof of that.

Post by **dos.azn** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:12 am

hmm its amazing how so many talk outta their ass while waiting for a next release that is long far ahead

Post by **InsaneNoodlyGuy** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:50 am

Hey. At least I got the dedication and discipline to teach myself to talk out fo my ass. When you can make yours do more then "Frrrrrttt" and "pppphhhtttt" noises, maybe you can talk trash.

Post by **Brainpiercing** » Mon May 09, 2005 6:29 am

Plus Noodleguy's right. Berserk is not a story of self-destructive revenge, it just looks that way because of Gats' fighting style.....

Post by **dos.azn** » Mon May 09, 2005 2:35 pm

InsaneNoodlyGuy wrote:Hey. At least I got the dedication and discipline to teach myself to talk out fo my ass. When you can make yours do more then "Frrrrrttt" and "pppphhhtttt" noises, maybe you can talk trash.

didnt say it was you fool

Post by **Arresty** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:30 pm

InsaneNoodlyGuy wrote:
Arresty wrote:I was actually thinking that when I typed my last post. Since I was refering to the only case I see fitting for him living I kept it wiht him living, but it woudl be cool to know Griffith was dead, and maybe have Guts all alone severly wounded, but still alive, not knowing whether he will stuggle to live again or finally accept fate and die.

Another reason I think he should die is that it kinda parallels Cowboy Bebop as in the main character is already dead in a sense, and only has one thing left to accomplish. I believe since Guts is fated to die it is appropriate for him to die, after killing the one who killed him.
I dunno if you can really realate that to Guts though. Spike, yes, was a man already dead after his girl hit the ground, simply waiting for his body to follow. His actions were dictated such, though Vicious observance that in his last moments he was living again contained some interest: he was alive because even in his self destructive act he at least had purpose.

Gats is a little different. Even at his lowest, after Gambino's death, betrayed by that which he cared about and now outcast from all he had known, bleeded and wounded, Gats still wanted to live. It burned in him in fact. Though I've little doubt that Gats would throw his life away for Casca, without that, he still has a reason. And when he has a reason, his drive is great. I've no doubt that killing griffith is a very big thing for him, but he's not really on a course of self destruction near as I can tell. Griffith is not the singular focus of his existence, the fact that he now has people close to him is proof of that.

Yeah there are alot of differences. What I was more refering to is Guts is dead by fate. The fact that he is branded should mean he is dead, but he is not. Since he is supposed to be dead I was thinking it would be appropriate that he actually die after completing his goal, and die by the hands of the one who branded him, but have him kill that person as well. That is what I was thinking.

Post by **Sandman** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:35 pm

That would be a good way to go, but Guts is the fate stopper there is no way that he will die untill he is ready to.

Post by **Arresty** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:41 pm

I think that he will be ready to then. Casca will be safe, and Griffith will be dead, he will have nothing else to live for.

Post by **Sandman** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:43 pm

we will have to see I guess but I think that Casca will never be safe, there will always be someone wanting to rape the shit out of her.

Post by **Arresty** » Mon May 09, 2005 10:49 pm

If she gets her memory back she shoudl be able to kick any of those peopls asses. Also even without her memory she fended herself against those thugs in the snow, before Guts tried to rape her.