Guts weakening condition is due to his use of the Berserk Armour. Since it dulls his nerves so he cannot feel any pain, he fights to the very end. The Berserk armour also reattaches his bones through sharp needles as well. I don't really see a pattern between him getting more companions and his weakening state.MrFelony wrote:so to bring the thread a little back on topic; anyone else find it interesting that the more companions that Guts acquires, the weaker he gets. i remember Shierke (spelling, am gonna look it up in a sec and then edit) mentioning that Guts has gotten thinner, and in chapter 252 he is basically bedridden and had to use her as a post so he could stand while he said farwell to Serpico. really contrasting to the earlier Guts, though Pakk has done a good enough job pointing that out. just wish the guy would finally get to elfhelm so he could take a short vacation.
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I don't think half the toilet seats in the world are as clean as I should like; and only half of those are half as clean as they deserve. - tsubaimomo, July 26, 2010 3:00 am
Can you, like, stop that?Buzkashi wrote:You tell em eldo.. Gosh eldo is soo coool. Eldo that was a great rebutle. How are you so smart eldo?.... example of arse-kissing
*attempts to drive Buzkashi away, waving his mace wildly*


I don't call that arse-kissing, I call it WORSHIP. I'm a demi-god, and where there's a god, there are his followers.


I don't think half the toilet seats in the world are as clean as I should like; and only half of those are half as clean as they deserve. - tsubaimomo, July 26, 2010 3:00 am
I did realize that that is part of the reason for why his condition is deteriorating, but there is a correlation between the two. part of it i think is the difference between when he was fighting solo and now since he is fighting to protect others. several other reasons is that the monsters he is fighting are also a lot tougher, but hey maybe this should go into the thread about little things noticed about Berserk
. I just wonder at this rate how he can keep up, because at this rate, I expect him to collapse or not be able to perform. but thats Guts for you, he just keeps going no matter what.


All I have to say is that he can have some pie.

I don't think half the toilet seats in the world are as clean as I should like; and only half of those are half as clean as they deserve. - tsubaimomo, July 26, 2010 3:00 am
so how do you guys think guts is gonna handle this situation? too many soldiers for him. he is pretty weak right now. and you cant just walk in there shouting "Farneeeese! Farneeeese!" banging on the plexi-glass and then rush out, though i guess he could definitely use his sword to baracade the doors
. the more i think about what is gonna the happen, the more im putting my money on some apostle or evil plan goin down.


I think Guts hasn't recovered his full strength yet, so they probably won't make a frontal assault with neon lights flaring.
They'll probably would take a stealth mission, but I could be wrong...

They'll probably would take a stealth mission, but I could be wrong...


I don't think half the toilet seats in the world are as clean as I should like; and only half of those are half as clean as they deserve. - tsubaimomo, July 26, 2010 3:00 am
well i guess here is a review:
I.Roderic and borhter
A.Roderic may or may not be an apostle
B. Roderic and "the brother" may or may not be in cahoots to do
something dasterdly
1. this could be in a relationship with Griffith
2. or they are just bastards searching for power
II. Rescue attempt
A. Possibility of Guts fighting a TON (100ish) of guards
B. Aid
1. Might receive aid from Serpico
a. Serpico would kick the guard's asses
b. Isidoro probably could as well
2. Serpico might just oppose Guts because he has expressed a
dislike of Farnese following Guts
3. He might help her follow her dream to learn magic.
C. Might sneak in ninja style.
1. Is a bad ass
2. already proven skills as assassin.
IV. Guts Condition
A. Is weakened so extended fighting will be bad for him
V. Escape plan/afterwards
A Cant just steal a ship..will probably be pursued by all the other ships,
getting lazy, but this is basically what i could remember everyone goin over, and i think when a thread has hit somethign liek 10-15+ pages, someone needs to volunteer up a short summary so the same shit doesnt keep being repeated
though i think a bullet point would be better than outline i guess heh 
I.Roderic and borhter
A.Roderic may or may not be an apostle
B. Roderic and "the brother" may or may not be in cahoots to do
something dasterdly
1. this could be in a relationship with Griffith
2. or they are just bastards searching for power

II. Rescue attempt
A. Possibility of Guts fighting a TON (100ish) of guards
B. Aid
1. Might receive aid from Serpico
a. Serpico would kick the guard's asses
b. Isidoro probably could as well
2. Serpico might just oppose Guts because he has expressed a
dislike of Farnese following Guts
3. He might help her follow her dream to learn magic.
C. Might sneak in ninja style.
1. Is a bad ass
2. already proven skills as assassin.
IV. Guts Condition
A. Is weakened so extended fighting will be bad for him
V. Escape plan/afterwards
A Cant just steal a ship..will probably be pursued by all the other ships,
getting lazy, but this is basically what i could remember everyone goin over, and i think when a thread has hit somethign liek 10-15+ pages, someone needs to volunteer up a short summary so the same shit doesnt keep being repeated



maybe not apostle, but i get a very creepy aura coming from him. i just dont see any good coming out of Roderick.

maybe if i get bored frequently hehStarnum wrote:Well, I don't know if this'll become a common practice, but thanks for the effort, heh.

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So some people think he's an apostle because of his weirdness for trying to marry Farnese. Hmph.
I love that kind of logic. I always thought he had a sinister plan brewing with the brother.
Oh well.



I don't think half the toilet seats in the world are as clean as I should like; and only half of those are half as clean as they deserve. - tsubaimomo, July 26, 2010 3:00 am
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Roderic is definately not an apostle. I think the creepy aura you get from him is just the fact he is a sleezy guy. He has alterier motives of course, everyone did back then, noone noble married for love, all for power and politics. He just has this fake style of romance. But on a side note, in the last few days has anything at all new been discussed here, tried reading through it, and well it just seemed to be BS and repeated stuff from before.