You know you've read too much berserk when...

[psi29a]

If you made this thread.

Again, please clarify. Your post... it lacks meaning and context isn't making it any clearer.

[ShinjiG]

If you made this thread.

Again, please clarify. Your post... it lacks meaning and context isn't making it any clearer.

What great minds we have here

[psi29a]

If you made this thread.

Again, please clarify. Your post... it lacks meaning and context isn't making it any clearer.

What great minds we have here

Cute, see you hell dipshit. Your out.

*swings BanHammer*
Added to TMS:

edit (again): talked to him via aim... not banned anymore. Do not flame him to bad, twas a mistake. Posting aim conversation below.

edit:
http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:VhR ... =firefox-a
here is some history for you all. *grin*

[Buzkashi]

Ahahah Fuckin moron...

[MrFelony]

hehe weeeeeell he could have just said he meant it in context of the threads title and purpose...but he fucked him self over. good job :sigh:

oooooh why did he have to give us chicagoans a bad rap

[psi29a]

Here is the aim log, feel free to read it.

(01:09:56) psi29a: you have a minute by chance?
(01:10:13) shinjig: perhaps
(01:10:47) psi29a: indeed, did you used to have berserk on streamload back in the days of digitalpanic.net ?
(01:11:01) shinjig: That was I
(01:11:16) psi29a: the same that was reckless just recently in www.evil-genius.us/forums ?
(01:11:57) shinjig: Sorry but I have a problem with elitists.
(01:12:16) psi29a: you do realize that the picture was saterical right?
(01:12:42) psi29a: and you pretty much thumbed you nose up in the are in the same fashion as an elitist
(01:13:43) shinjig: If a group of people can't translate whats originally in the text bubble themselves, then they shouldn't complain too much with someone else takes the time to do it for them. Even if the job done was a bit sloppy.
(01:14:25) psi29a: and who was complaining again?
(01:14:57) shinjig: virtually everyone in that thread ganged up on that other scanlation group.
(01:15:07) psi29a: mizar from sk.net came over and was chatting with people in EG about getting facts straight.
(01:15:30) shinjig: Well whatever, I'm not gonna post there too often
(01:15:33) psi29a: did you even read my posts?
(01:15:52) shinjig: the ones about clarity and context, yeah I read those.
(01:15:57) psi29a: well you can't really post, your class C has been added to -REJECT in iptables.
(01:16:03) psi29a: but i came to you to verify intent
(01:17:54) psi29a: i wanted to make sure that this is how you wanted to go out, after all.. you did help out EG in the past with your streamloading
(01:18:05) psi29a: and you posted a bit when eg was @ digital panic
(01:18:12) shinjig: lol, so because I didn't act like a stuck up snob like the rest of the posters there. I'm the one that gets added to the ip list of people who can't post. (essentially banned I assume)
(01:18:49) shinjig: who enjoy flaming newbs and whatever.
(01:19:04) psi29a: it was disrespectful to me, with your short answers and rather tearse nature.
(01:20:02) psi29a: you joined in june... waited, thenall of sudden 8 posts, right after the other, 2 of which was constructive and the other 6 where down right mean.
(01:20:33) shinjig: and how is that different from 99% of the posters there anyway?
(01:21:50) psi29a: because it is kept within the forums and not allowed to spread to other places. It is EG afterall, not a Berserk information hub. If you read my posts, you would see that god-hand filled the niche while we waited for Oro (aka Nuzgal) to finish his course-work so he can get back on track.
(01:22:13) psi29a: GH released their work, poor quality and with half-translated material. I think people have a right to complain
(01:22:50) shinjig: If those people couldn't provide work thats even 1% as good as GH did, then they don't have the right to complain that much.
(01:23:05) psi29a: i agree, that is why i bitch slapped the lot of 'em
(01:23:20) shinjig: Then I'm glad that we agree on that subject
(01:23:57) psi29a: but... those people (by EG) do great work in comparison to GH
(01:24:27) psi29a: to clarify, do you mean those forum users?
(01:24:48) shinjig: That they do. If we're strickly comparing the work done by EG and GH.
(01:25:28) psi29a: GH is a one man crew by the name of Willis btw.
(01:25:47) shinjig: Then he himself should get a lot of credit.
(01:26:08) psi29a: and he does, he released before EG did.
(01:26:08) shinjig: As there is no chance for one person could compete with a whole team of people.
(01:26:51) psi29a: we digress a bit though, why do you feel the urge to go out of your way to attack a EG based forum? what gives you the right to do that?
(01:27:27) shinjig: Did I go out and say that EG is a horrible scanlation group?
(01:27:32) shinjig: No I didn't.
(01:27:45) psi29a: that is a straw man arguement
(01:28:44) shinjig: The urge was given to me by the posters on you're forum that are a very disrespectful bunch.
(01:29:12) shinjig: while not all are like that, several of them are.
(01:29:16) psi29a: Could you have a been a little more verbose in your accusations instead of leaving one liners and quips?
(01:29:42) shinjig: Possibly, but the point was made was it not?
(01:30:47) psi29a: the point was made that you just blindly raged in and attacked the forum users. No point was made as to the cause, it was too tearse. You assume a great a deal, and pass it off as ignorance on the part of the forum user if they don't understand.
(01:31:52) psi29a: You lost your objectivity
(01:32:10) shinjig: Blindly? Not really. Especially when compared to the other posters there. Any and all assumptions were made based on the posts made in that forum.
(01:32:33) psi29a: you surely couldn't have read all 37K of them
(01:33:07) psi29a: i'm sure there is a framework of context that you have missed out on.
(01:33:30) psi29a: The one who started the thread was Oro... the guy who is EG.
(01:33:42) psi29a: I do believe he has every right to critize another group about quality.
(01:34:01) psi29a: Oro aka Nazgul
(01:34:24) shinjig: I'm sure I haven't. When I posted on DP, and lurked Mindwerks, I've seen far worse posts and members doing acts far worse than myself.
(01:35:03) psi29a: yes, far worse... and most have been sorted out and either burned at the stake via ban or have apologized.
(01:35:21) shinjig: From what I've seen that has not happened.
(01:35:29) psi29a: i know, i clean u the messes
(01:35:36) psi29a: erm u == up
(01:35:47) shinjig: I figured that one out for myself.
(01:36:27) psi29a: however, back to your point when you quoted Nazgul. Did you realize that he is EG?
(01:36:35) shinjig: I would site examples.. but I can't view the forum so I can not site those examples.
(01:36:51) shinjig: Which topic are we refering about?
(01:37:02) psi29a: the very first one.. or close to the first.
(01:37:22) psi29a: i'll grab it for you, one sec
(01:37:26) shinjig: ... -looking at the page cannot be displayed- Yea I see it
(01:37:47) psi29a: ShinjiG wrote: Nazgûl wrote: snip

As if you could do better.
(01:37:58) shinjig: ok thats what I had assumed.
(01:38:01) psi29a: see, that there... very low level sarcasm that does not add to the conversation
(01:38:08) shinjig: No I did not realize that he was EG.
(01:38:51) shinjig: In which case, if he is the one that translates and does the work then my post would be in error.
(01:39:01) shinjig: would it not?
(01:39:15) psi29a: he does all the work, he releases berserk... he is EG
(01:39:18) shinjig: or rather I as in error
(01:39:38) shinjig: So to him I would apologize.
(01:39:39) psi29a: eldo, femto and starnum do editing and QA
(01:39:51) psi29a: those are most of th epeople you see sounding on in that thread
(01:39:56) psi29a: on == off
(01:41:02) shinjig: rather "saw" would be a more appropiate verb.
(01:41:27) psi29a: what do you expect, 1:41am EST. I work 9-5 m-f ^_^
(01:41:39) shinjig: perfect englist :-p
(01:41:50) psi29a: me fail english, thats unpossible!
(01:42:18) shinjig: you're not ralph wiggem (SP?)
(01:42:40) psi29a: not, you got me... but please take it on good authority that I ate paste as a small child
(01:43:44) shinjig: I knew of someone like that
(01:43:58) psi29a: You goto the Uni of Illinoise?
(01:44:24) shinjig: No, I finished college 2 years ago.
(01:44:38) psi29a: makes you 'bout what... 23 ?
(01:44:43) shinjig: 24
(01:44:54) shinjig: BTW its illinois
(01:44:58) psi29a: *nods* BA or BS ?
(01:45:05) shinjig: BS in Computer Science
(01:45:15) psi29a: pardon, Virginia here... same major and degree
(01:45:23) psi29a: Use Linux much?
(01:46:32) shinjig: no, closest experience that I've had was Unix which was the class that my college had (and the colleges server ran on unix)
(01:46:37) psi29a: graduated, however... 23
(01:46:53) psi29a: *nods*
(01:47:58) psi29a: well, anywho... it is late here. The boss will be upset if I can't play frisbee tomorrow because I want to take a nap.. haha.
(01:48:27) shinjig: sounds like a busy day at work
(01:48:39) shinjig: rather "of" than "at"
(01:49:12) psi29a: I can remove the iptables entry if you want, just that there will be people that that flame ya probably unless ya apologize. When that happens, the flames die down a bit.
(01:49:29) psi29a: software engineers job is always busy
(01:49:44) shinjig: yea, if only I could get a job in that field
(01:49:45) psi29a: hacking this, fixing that
(01:50:12) shinjig: I've had to go for further schooling to get certified in Comptias A+ and Network+
(01:50:33) psi29a: btw... hope ya don't mind, i found your aim via digging around google and because of your email address i searched yahoo profiles and found ya there too
(01:50:46) psi29a: pic from 2002 ?
(01:51:10) psi29a: i recieved a CCNA out of highschool.. didn't do much with it though.
(01:51:12) shinjig: Pic should be from my junior year of college so should be spring of 2002 I believe
(01:51:30) psi29a: wanted to be a software engineer... so, went after that and found a job... getting married, crazy year
(01:51:42) psi29a: cool....
(01:51:48) shinjig: sounds busy
(01:52:21) shinjig: its up to you. I most likely won't post too much.
(01:52:41) psi29a: its cool, was it a mistake on your part then?
(01:52:51) shinjig: yea
(01:53:11) psi29a: i understand that you feel rage against people dissing other's work, i had to say something 'bout that too in there.
(01:53:13) shinjig: and getting rid of built up angre and some of the members
(01:53:20) psi29a: hehe, no problems
(01:53:26) psi29a: mind if I post this conversation?
(01:53:33) psi29a: or you want me to edit it up, or not post at all?
(01:53:49) shinjig: If you wish, I'm gonna get flamed anyway
(01:54:08) psi29a: nah, not if people read this... they are understanding.
(01:54:14) psi29a: says so in the guidelines
(01:54:27) psi29a:

Summation: No flamming him please, I took care of it.

[Buzkashi]

I just dont understand why he had to make the blurb about ben wallace and the dragon slayer. I mean i said that way back in DP. Even though i stand by my idea.

[Arresty]

(01:39:56) psi29a: on == off

That alone would tell me you were CS if I didn't already know it.

All and all he is not a bad guy, I can understand his anger. Oh well. I wasn't targeted or critized by him so I have no real place in this conversation.

Edit:

I just dont understand why he had to make the blurb about ben wallace and the dragon slayer. I mean i said that way back in DP. Even though i stand by my idea.

At first I was going to say you have changed alot since then, but at the end you still stand by your idea, so I guess you haven't changed at all.

PS, you ar dominating me in posts now, I guess thats what happens w hen I rarely post anymore.

[psi29a]

Buz wouldn't have been here if it wasn't for me dragging his ass from DP to here and laying down the law a bit. I respect him quite a bit now.

[MrFelony]

what was teh idea?

[Artezul]

A pretty intelligible conversation. But you guys really did a wide loop away from the point near the end.

[Arresty]

what was teh idea?

That ben wallace could wield the dragon slayer. Atleast that is what I picked up from another thread.

[Eldo]

Basically, I ignored all his posts before, but when he gave shit to Oro, that was when I felt the flamer in me explode. I guess it's all clarified now, so I don't see any need for flaming from me.

And I must repeat again, I still don't think God Hand should have released a chapter without having it completely translated. I work in scanlation groups too, and I know how they feel about releasing half-translated works. That was the main point of that other thread.

EDIT: Just had to clear up the post a little. Thought I was posting in the other thread, heh.

[Arresty]

I can understand that complaint. You should release a fully translated release. I wouldn't have read it if I had known of it first, and saw it had unfinished text. I would have just quit there adn waited for EG.

[Artezul]

Christ, not to step on toes. ::sparkly dust:: ( ' ')

[psi29a]

Just to clarify, no he isn't Willis of GH.

[Iemander]

Hm, you guys may be rather elitist etc. But then again this is Psi's board. This isn't a public board owned by some strange dudes on top, Psi can do whatever he wants to do here, it's rather stupid to hear people complain about what he does on his own board.

If you don't like it here just leave, there's no shame to it. But for God's sake, don't complain about it, give some soft "crisizm" based on facts like Mizar did.

[psi29a]

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism Audio pronunciation of "elitist" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-ltzm, -l-)
n.

1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources.

2.
1. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class.
2. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class.

So this is Evil-Genius's and Mindwerk's forums, how can we NOT be elitists here? It is understandable if this type of attitude was taken elsewhere, but isn't it redundant if not a little niave to accuse a group of people of being elitists.... in their own environment, that they created?

In case others missed it, the Elitism poster did hint of self-mockery and sarcasm.

[Eldo]

I'm not an elitist, I don't think. I'll ban anybody that says otherwise.

And yes, I am joking.

[DarkenRahlX]

If one of you guys give me the Berserk Prototype I'll call you whatever you want me to.

[Brainpiercing]

And yes, I am joking.

That spoiled it.

[Arresty]

I am not an elitist, I flame all people equally.

[MrFelony]

would you call me big papa smurf daddy and then virtually kiss femto if i found it?

[Buzkashi]

Buz wouldn't have been here if it wasn't for me dragging his ass from DP to here and laying down the law a bit. I respect him quite a bit now.

True true, though when he was talking about it i didnt know what the hell he was talking bout. See the day you guys decided the new forum i was banned from DP by fox. So i didnt know about the split. Then i started readin posts of people saying "where is the berserk section?" So i clikced a link and vuwala i was here.

[Khelegond]

Hope I'm not sticking my nose where I don't belong to, but...just a few opinions:

1 - I'm here cause I rather have a good release, with a good translation. I'm not saying that there aren't others good translations, but I haven't found any (not that I have looked through-fully).
2 - If you don't like something, don't use/read it. I don't like many translations out there, but I don't get there just to flame them. If they're horrible, OK. I just don't get their releases. An example? I hate when I'm on ... don't know, McDonald's, and a friend is with me, eating. Then he starts "Hell, I hate McDonald's, it's a shitty food, it's expensive as hell". I reply "What the heck are you doing here eating then? If you don't like, DON'T go there. Simply as that". It's not like you don't have choices!
3 - Yes, EG is elitist. Why not? If their releases are better edited, translated with caution, why not being elitist? You must have some pride, if you do something good!

It's not ass-kissing, because I could be around the board just leeching the chapters, but I like the community here, and I'm having great talks! (which, if you can see my post count, it's good, since I'm a newbie).

Well...I said what I wanted to say

Cheers,

Khelegond